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I also suspect that scum just didn't kill.
There was no reason for Samantha to lie there as it loses us a lim so scum do not kill there, either know the cause or don't dis believe it.
And in the risk of me / Retti being the Samantha kill, Raya is never the scum kill otherwise its just set in stone.
4 players alive increases the scum chances to survive so both scum me or Retti benefit from no killing.
Willow doesn't benefit here.
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Flea The Magician Fae/FaerJack of All TradesFae/Faer
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Honestly, it's MYLO, I ain't voting anything except a no yeet.
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I don't see what the point is here when you're clear and most likely to dieIn post 2484, Flea The Magician wrote:Honestly, it's MYLO, I ain't voting anything except a no yeet.
I'm curious what effect I've had though I know I've had one-
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i find the bit about going raya yesterday so-so. as scum you don't want to risk losing the target elim to the vigshot, but getting the elim only to have town bailed out by the shot is worse & more likely
flea is very unpredictable w/ how fae would feel about me imo and while arguably i could get scared of you reconsidering, i think the kill would hypothetically have been free and makes the game much more straight forward to win
actually thinking more about that faer has hinted about being pgo so might have been like hell naw from that perspective, half of why i never bothered mask checking them. meh.-
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In a hypothetical words where I'm scum getting boned by the rand after an elimination yesterday is less likely than one of vfp/raya dying and leaving me worse off, but this is probably not a productive discussion regardless so let's drop itIn post 2488, willow1 wrote:i find the bit about going raya yesterday so-so. as scum you don't want to risk losing the target elim to the vigshot, but getting the elim only to have town bailed out by the shot is worse & more likely
My concern is that yesterday I felt like you should have recognized that regardless of whatever points you were making against Raya, her response was towny, and you not recognizing when that happened is something of a red flag for me. It made me worry that you were committing to push there no matter what. I also feel like you've been fairly lax with townreading me (even before the gladiator claim stuff) where normally I say something innocuous and you jump down my throat for it, in a sense the lack of paranoia hasmeparanoid about possibly being pocketed here
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i didn't find it town. obviously in hindsight w/ her flip it now is but scum raya seriously needed to hail mary ate to win the game and sometimes that means playing possum. vfp did similar with the pool. re: last line i don't really think who i choose to push would differ much as scum so sure.In post 2489, Retti wrote:My concern is that yesterday I felt like you should have recognized that regardless of whatever points you were making against Raya, her response was towny, and you not recognizing when that happened is something of a red flag for me. It made me worry that you were committing to push there no matter what.
uhhhh this game is long+on the backburner so i don't really remember my entire progression but basically i had you in the nullzone until you came to bat for me w/ vfp. at that point i was actually worried you were trying to pocket me, and grew more concerned because i thought esooa was town. then you softed that mechanically u would do something dumb and so i was like "ok retti just can't hold it this is classic big baby retti". bell flip made me just slot you as town until proven otherwise even if hypothetically could still bus, yesterday reviewed b/c had to and thought the andante interactions townIn post 2489, Retti wrote:I also feel like you've been fairly lax with townreading me (even before the gladiator claim stuff) where normally I say something innocuous and you jump down my throat for it, in a sense the lack of paranoia hasmeparanoid about possibly being pocketed here
i also specifically got feedback on that innocuous comment trap card in a recent game, srry that i don't wanna link here. while i was aware of it previously i have had it in mind since
idk people townreading me for no reason has been wild my vote record is sketch and i didn't really push on bell except as a tool to be like "wtf titus"In post 2489, Retti wrote:So, n your own words, what are the reasons you aren't scum here?
some clear things that stick out to me as divergent are 1. risking the retaliation powertunnel from that cursed hydra to begin with 2. being ok w/ no elim on titus (which was only because i could mask check her, and i fully expected it to flip positive)-
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wait i know what'll help ur paranoia
here's this sequence from jjh it's not sketchy at all lmao dw about it
In post 1333, jjh927 wrote:Willow's reads feel pretty out there to me, which I'm taking as a sign that Willow is town
Scum are more inclined to come out with reads that are similar to what other people in the game are putting out
On the same note, I think I can see T3 scum but will have to iso properly
Titus is just town fwiwIn post 1337, jjh927 wrote:
Doesn't seem like a readslist made to appease at all; in other words it is sincereIn post 1334, samantha97 wrote:
whichIn post 1333, jjh927 wrote:Willow's reads feel pretty out there to me, which I'm taking as a sign that Willow is town
Most of it is null or leans
The list has Esooa, who I feel is generally a consensus hard town as only a townlean, and I don't think there's a lot of attention on VFP right nowIn post 1339, jjh927 wrote:That most of it is null or leans even on slots where there's a consensusIn post 1340, jjh927 wrote:There aren't any extras sneaking in that Willow hasn't been focusing on just for the sake of agreeing with town-
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idk actually the titus/bell progression is pretty town in the sense that i didn't powershove bell but actively got in the way of people derailing it w/ reasoning that was obviously garbage (titus explicitly argued that this wasn't bell's scumgame and i was like ??? it might flip town b/c could just be busy+demotivated as town too but absolutely this is classic bell scum)
and in particular didn't try to use that to really swing it elsewhere, let somebody else swing it elsewhere, or even use it to get an elim. i didn't like titus's positioning but i went to bat for that elim so hard only to give it up for free. no reason to stop other than bear spamming she was town, which is not something to back off for or really be afraid of when i am intentionally burning my credit to get a vote day 2. that backoff only happened because i knew if she was lying i'd get her day 3 and that the vig meant we'd win back the elim-
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I mean, yeah, but I wanted to see what you'd say regardless. The fully fleshed out reasoning for your read on me day 1 at least makes sense, wasn't clear at all in my view. The point about Titus is kind of w/e but the bear one is a good one, some things have slipped my memory and I should probably do a real reread rather than just brief ctrl+Fing an being like ehh idkIn post 2493, willow1 wrote:idk what ur expecting here dog anytime someone asks "why r u town" it's gonna get a "here are the million reasons why my play makes perfect sense as scum and ur dumb, ackshually. im town tho" response i can't help it this is known-
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Lol godamitIn post 2494, willow1 wrote:wait i know what'll help ur paranoia
here's this sequence from jjh it's not sketchy at all lmao dw about it
In post 1333, jjh927 wrote:Willow's reads feel pretty out there to me, which I'm taking as a sign that Willow is town
Scum are more inclined to come out with reads that are similar to what other people in the game are putting out
On the same note, I think I can see T3 scum but will have to iso properly
Titus is just town fwiwIn post 1337, jjh927 wrote:
Doesn't seem like a readslist made to appease at all; in other words it is sincereIn post 1334, samantha97 wrote:
whichIn post 1333, jjh927 wrote:Willow's reads feel pretty out there to me, which I'm taking as a sign that Willow is town
Most of it is null or leans
The list has Esooa, who I feel is generally a consensus hard town as only a townlean, and I don't think there's a lot of attention on VFP right nowIn post 1339, jjh927 wrote:That most of it is null or leans even on slots where there's a consensusIn post 1340, jjh927 wrote:There aren't any extras sneaking in that Willow hasn't been focusing on just for the sake of agreeing with town-
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