Micro 1032: Baton of Desperation [Game Over]
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ok i think the pseudovoting is cool but please just pass Enchant the button lol
I will read the rest of p18 now"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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how closely are you paying attention to this gameIn post 430, Wisdom wrote:For example consider Isis+Ratman, which I think is the most likely
Most people had negative feelings about ratman at the time of Isis passing, which would maybe make her hesitate to pass to him
i've been bear or bearish on ratman all game, even if I were scum passing to ratman would be out for the sake of having some semblance of a townie read progression. That eclipses ratman's general approval rating
also are you scum?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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I’m sorry, but I don’t have a stronger reason for Enchant over Wisdom.In post 452, Isis wrote:ok i think the pseudovoting is cool but please just pass Enchant the button lol
I will read the rest of p18 now-
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I dont see how that disagrees with my pointIn post 453, Isis wrote:how closely are you paying attention to this game
i've been bear or bearish on ratman all game, even if I were scum passing to ratman would be out for the sake of having some semblance of a townie read progression. That eclipses ratman's general approval rating
Enchant waa saying that scum likely passed to each other and i was saying why you wouldnt pass to rat if you were scum with him-
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It's not a contradiction it's just a really weird framing to focus on a minor point when a major point exists"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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As long as all scum keeps in Isis.Clemency/Rats, then we should win.In post 460, Wisdom wrote:
Are you okay with rats dying?In post 451, Enchant wrote:*Intensive scumreading*
It would be cool to really consider other options before progressing though.-
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So I think my thought was kind of simple, and was based off of Wisdom's #355.
Your reaction to me pushing you was collaborative (+town), because of the position of my slot in town's reads at the time. It would've been easy to completely blow me off, but you didn't. Not saying town wouldn't do the latter, but I think it'd be the easier route for scum to take.
If vulture flipped anyway and flipped scum, I would've still been sus, but not as much as if you'd handed the baton to vulture. In fact the plan was to push you today if either of those things happened, despite only declaring intention to do that for one of those scenarios.
If vulture flipped town- which they did- you'd be clear in my book.
What MY dumb ass didn't realize at the time is that Pooky being your partner also makes sense with your reaction.
Nevertheless, you've gone from giving me 100 to near 0 paranoia, next to Clemency, but even then, he's a gut read.
If this seems stupid, that's because it is.-
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Okay, I tried rewording it. I don't know how much it matters considering I forgot that he actuallyIn post 415, DArby wrote:
Could you reword your first paragraph. Using only pronouns, I cannot gauge what you’re talking about specifically.In post 402, ratmans wrote:
It also makes sense as scum imo. The reads on me were/are split, so if he wanted to hand it off to me (the better to get townier players limmed), he'd first want to gauge whether it would look partner-y so he won't go down with me, if that's how things go later on.In post 399, DArby wrote:I feel I'm an odd choice for the baton holder. I had a few days to think about this and I still want to give it to Wisdom. I feel he town slipped by risking dying to wait on passing the baton for Margot to post.
Plus it's not like graciously waiting for a slot to be active is a rare camouflage tactic. Easy townpoints, you literally don't have to do anything.
"Town slip" is very generous; I wouldn't assign alignment to it. If there's something else that frames the action as towny, though, feel free to bring it up.
I disagree with your last two paragraphs. Waiting is one thing, sure, but the timer expired. That was a direct gamble to take. There’s only 2 scum, so to take out half your team on towncred is silly.didlet the baton expire and all that, but here it is:
"Taking the risk also makes sense as scum. Town's reads on me were/are split, so if scum!Wisdom were going to pass the baton to me (both to keep me as a future mislim, and to get townier players limmed), he'd first want to gauge whether it would make he and I look partnered.
Regardless of my alignment, if Wisdom's scum, it would be risky to associate himself with me, as that could negatively his towniness in people's eyes.
Scum!Wisdom holding onto the baton instead of passing it to me immediately creates an appearance of "having to seriously consider", thus creating negative association between us, or at least less positive association than handing it to me immediately would."
....though to be honest I might've just explained why Wisdom is town.
Then again, I'm more likely to be limmed before Wisdom, so I could be his token tr.
But then there's the baton expiring thing so probably he's town.-
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My badIn post 464, Enchant wrote:To who you say it
It was at Darby-
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I think wisdom could be a game losing townblock. Can we talk about why you think I'm scummy? Is there anything specific.In post 461, Enchant wrote:
As long as all scum keeps in Isis.Clemency/Rats, then we should win.In post 460, Wisdom wrote:
Are you okay with rats dying?In post 451, Enchant wrote:*Intensive scumreading*
It would be cool to really consider other options before progressing though.
If it's sheeping wisdom's sentiments that circles back to my first point"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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Wisdom i think is enough confideint in self to pass baton to teammate (or receive it) without anyone getting noticed.In post 468, Isis wrote:
I think wisdom could be a game losing townblock. Can we talk about why you think I'm scummy? Is there anything specific.In post 461, Enchant wrote:
As long as all scum keeps in Isis.Clemency/Rats, then we should win.In post 460, Wisdom wrote:
Are you okay with rats dying?In post 451, Enchant wrote:*Intensive scumreading*
It would be cool to really consider other options before progressing though.
If it's sheeping wisdom's sentiments that circles back to my first point
Now he pushing both these persons. Of course it could be scumplay to bus partner, but i would't bus my partner here as scum, because it's hard to win otherwise.
Ergo Wisdom most likely town than not. It's more doubts about Pooky (who joined and charmed everyone into "lolgive it Pooky") and DArby. Pooky is impossible for me to get right for exact. DArby i didn't really look carefully before.-
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