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I think A50 is Town still.
It is very unfortunate that Roden legitimately had a role that was just names smashed together, and that created the appearance of a scumslip, but calling that out doesn't make A50 scum.-
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Why, ircher?
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I need you to clarify what you meant by "right thing" in regards to RodenIn post 257, Almost50 wrote:Well, I'm off to bed. Too bad I can't stay up to see if Roden does the right thing anytime soonNordom, are you speaking to your crossbows?
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Oh, that's a relief. I thought that-
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Ircher, are you going to go the entire game without bothering to elaborate on reads? Should we just assume you're this "obvious high thinking town" who should just be sheeped at whim?Nordom, are you speaking to your crossbows?
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Oh, that's a relief. I thought that-
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VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever
This guy has done nothing but parrot the obvious, give easy reads, and hard-defend Almost50 every step of the way. Feels like him buckling up comfortably on Almost's Roden lynch of the day.Nordom, are you speaking to your crossbows?
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That's a definite NO, as I happen to know of at least "one monkey" who wasn't aware of that either.In post 303, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Also was I the only one unaware that our pick would be redacted on flip?
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So it's neither Married nor Single?In post 306, Ircher wrote:It's complicated.
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Self-Hammer. Read my posts before thatIn post 307, Nordom wrote:
I need you to clarify what you meant by "right thing" in regards to RodenIn post 257, Almost50 wrote:Well, I'm off to bed. Too bad I can't stay up to see if Roden does the right thing anytime soon
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Why do you think I'm scum instead of town who believed Roden was scum?In post 309, Nordom wrote:VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever
This guy has done nothing but parrot the obvious, give easy reads, and hard-defend Almost50 every step of the way. Feels like him buckling up comfortably on Almost's Roden lynch of the day.
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Nope, nuh uh. I refuse to believe that the fervor that A50 pushed Roden with comes from scum on what many of us saw after it was pointed out. I think Roden exacerbated the issue by not considering that town would think they made a slip and instead made it more of a 1v1 than placate the issue. I thought for sure that Roden was flipping scum because of that move alone.-
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UNVOTE: Cat Scratch Fever
VOTE: Radical Rat
In post 209, Radical Rat wrote:Roden, if I'm interpreting your claim correctly, that's a Vengeful Gunsmith, which... Is entirely useless.
Radical Rat in the first quote extrapolates that they're well aware of what Roden's claim mean and the implications with it. "Entirely useless" seems to imply they have a pretty good idea on what the role is. Then right AFTER After50's post:
They post this:In post 212, Almost50 wrote:
That's what I thought it was, but I strongly disagree with the useless part. If he is (a) Town, (b) Vengeful then no scum is going to hammer him now. If he is a GS Scum want him dead ASAP. So, while we may not get useful results from him he can be the Mafia's problem for the night and then we see.In post 209, Radical Rat wrote:Roden, if I'm interpreting your claim correctly, that's a Vengeful Gunsmith, which... Is entirely useless.
Almost has already gave out the response that they confused "Vengeful" with "Supersaint", which is the role that leads to the person hammering getting offed. So, two people at relatively the same time somehow made the exact same "mistake", despite Rat being comfortable enough to call the role claim "a bluff".In post 224, Radical Rat wrote:It also seems to me that if Roden was indeed Town Vengeful, he shouldn't have said so. Because indeed, if he's Town, scum likely aren't going to want to hammer him... Which means if he does get eliminated, it's most likely Town doing the hammering.... Which means the role is now anti-Town.
So yeah, I'm calling the bluff.
So, either we can assume this is town who just isn't paying attention or mafia grabbing onto any reasoning at their feet to bring the lynch to it's juicy conclusion. I'm inclined to go with the latter. I've had an uncomfortable feeling about RadicalRat for quite a while, so take that for what it's worth. Rather get this than Cat for now.Nordom, are you speaking to your crossbows?
Negatory.
Oh, that's a relief. I thought that-
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Roden was just someone who wasn't worth it to fight this huge uphill battle for, despite my instinct on possible townie for them even when I threatened to hammer them.In post 315, Toogeloo wrote:Nope, nuh uh. I refuse to believe that the fervor that A50 pushed Roden with comes from scum on what many of us saw after it was pointed out. I think Roden exacerbated the issue by not considering that town would think they made a slip and instead made it more of a 1v1 than placate the issue. I thought for sure that Roden was flipping scum because of that move alone.Nordom, are you speaking to your crossbows?
Negatory.
Oh, that's a relief. I thought that-
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It's probably breaking in some way, I'm not surprised.In post 303, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Also was I the only one unaware that our pick would be redacted on flip?
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I don't see what's unnatural about the thought process here? Vengeful townies don't usually claim vengeful when run up like that. It's even called out in the vengeful wiki entry.In post 316, Nordom wrote:Almost has already gave out the response that they confused "Vengeful" with "Supersaint", which is the role that leads to the person hammering getting offed. So, two people at relatively the same time somehow made the exact same "mistake", despite Rat being comfortable enough to call the role claim "a bluff".
So, either we can assume this is town who just isn't paying attention or mafia grabbing onto any reasoning at their feet to bring the lynch to it's juicy conclusion. I'm inclined to go with the latter. I've had an uncomfortable feeling about RadicalRat for quite a while, so take that for what it's worth. Rather get this than Cat for now.-
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Except Rodent's push has nothing to do with if a legitimate Vengeful would claim there or not. There was no mention "Well, if they were Vengeful they would allow themselves to be lynched". Not sure what led you to interpret their push like that.In post 319, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
I don't see what's unnatural about the thought process here? Vengeful townies don't usually claim vengeful when run up like that. It's even called out in the vengeful wiki entry.In post 316, Nordom wrote:Almost has already gave out the response that they confused "Vengeful" with "Supersaint", which is the role that leads to the person hammering getting offed. So, two people at relatively the same time somehow made the exact same "mistake", despite Rat being comfortable enough to call the role claim "a bluff".
So, either we can assume this is town who just isn't paying attention or mafia grabbing onto any reasoning at their feet to bring the lynch to it's juicy conclusion. I'm inclined to go with the latter. I've had an uncomfortable feeling about RadicalRat for quite a while, so take that for what it's worth. Rather get this than Cat for now.
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Which is pretty much the first line of the Vengeful article on the wiki. Considering how certain Radical was that the role was "useless" and that it was a "complete bluff", I find it hard to believe that they had theA Vengeful player is a one that, when voted out, or eliminated, is awarded the ability to kill any other player as they die.same exactmisinterpretation by coincidence when Almost regarded them "Supersaint" That doesn't strike you as incredibly convenient? Radical decided to put Roden at L-1 and then doubled down afterwords with anything they could find to get the lynch secured.Nordom, are you speaking to your crossbows?
Negatory.
Oh, that's a relief. I thought that-
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I did not misunderstand Vengeful like A50 did, when I said scum wasn't likely to hammer a Town Vengeful, I meant that they would probably prefer to nightkill them rather than potentially get killed for eliminating them.
Also, at the time I called it useless, that was because I was working under the belief that Gunsmith would retain its investigative properties, rather than be converted to a vig invention, and a posthumous investigation is indeed quite useless. At the time that I called it as a bluff, Roden had made clear that it was not an investigative, and did have kill potential.-
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I would like to say that I have also been thinking sketchy here, but have been too lazy to actually compile the case yet.In post 322, Galron wrote:Wanting a mass claim. Now withholding a "complicated" case on A50. The Roden tunnel, fine, several were. Why not drop your case on A50 on us?
VOTE: Ircher
I strongly endorse this vote-
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