Open 847 - Trust Fall [Game Over]

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh i just realized something, this game is sort of similar to purgatory, i've been scum there once. There was a very specific strategy we used there to get townread i remember. So if i see that in this game i'll be sure to point it out.
I won't say it though, cus that will make scum aware of it.

[chavela]

nothing about my bugspray gotcha, chavela?

i, uh, really don't understand why you think bugspray should pair with enchant? when you strongly scumread both? like if you're wrong on bugspray but right on enchant then the player you are claiming is your strongest scumread escapes? which, uh, doesn't make a lot of sense

like sure it has great upside but what's % on that upside vs % of enchant being scum without bugspray

(but also, like, bugspray's response doesn't make much sense to me

likelikelike

perspective wise

but maybe bugspray was trying to say it shouldn't make sense for you to suggest that from your perspective

rather than from bugspray's perspective;

hard for me to tell)

[chavela]

like sure it has great upside but what's % on that upside vs % of enchant being scum without bugspray

and the upside is actually 0% in practice

it only exists on paper

as they won't actually try to pair if mafia together

so it is only downside from your perspective? but you are suggesting it anyway?

[Enchant]

like it is much much harder for a mafia to fool a collective town than to fool a single player

But what if more people= dumber

I can relate.

[chavela]

I guess Chav could always be deepwolfing to advance mafia’s goals but I doubt it. If that’d be the case I’d assume her partner is more of a lurker

i start to get slightly paranoid of meuh at times but then posts like this are like,

really good right

because it seems to be trying to fill in all of the possible narratives

while also weighing the likelihood of those narratives at the same time

[humaneatingmonkey]

the player you are claiming is your strongest scumread escapes

at best, we corner scum. at worst, two players i strongly suspect the most exits the game.

[Enchant]

Let's perform cringe and pair two scum, so they fuck up publically.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Let's perform cringe and pair two scum, so they fuck up publically.

yes, but unironically

[Enchant]

It was real suggestion.

[humaneatingmonkey]

arent you scum

[NorwegianboyEE]

I guess Chav could always be deepwolfing to advance mafia’s goals but I doubt it. If that’d be the case I’d assume her partner is more of a lurker

i start to get slightly paranoid of meuh at times but then posts like this are like,

really good right

because it seems to be trying to fill in all of the possible narratives

while also weighing the likelihood of those narratives at the same time

Um, i don't see why that is so very good.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i think she just likes Meuh too

[chavela]

The loss of this game for town can be basically blamed on two players. In case the leader is wrong, the loss can be blamed on them instead.

a loss is on every member of town no need for blame

like there isn't ever going to be a game where there aren't many many things i could have done better

and i kinda assume this is true of everyone

like i shouldn't show frustrating with the way others play i know this i knew when signing up for trust fall that i become frustrated with yolo tactics and i am familiar with enchant's play (part of why i am maybe not scumreading it as much as i otherwise would be - though it is very very difficult for me to tell if enchant's posts are showing frustration with being scumread even though from enchant's perspective if enchant is town and if they think it is town indicative that humaneatingmonkey did not immediately accept that enchant was right and is being scumread for it or if enchant is frustrated that this action had the reaction to it that it did)

and i really do not know how to engage enchant about like,

enchant's reads and the reasoning for actions and so forth

in a way that further enlightens this to me as each post i just go, yeah, could be either of those

and i don't know i don't know

[chavela]

Um, i don't see why that is so very good.

do you often see mafia doing that? if so could you show me examples please

[chavela]

the player you are claiming is your strongest scumread escapes

at best, we corner scum. at worst, two players i strongly suspect the most exits the game.

....................

and if you are right about one of the two players you strongly suspect?

like

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[NorwegianboyEE]

Um, i don't see why that is so very good.

do you often see mafia doing that? if so could you show me examples please

Yes, i have met players like Marcistar that break my heart and turn out to be scum even though they enticed me with their sweet and pure posts.

[chavela]

Let's perform cringe and pair two scum, so they fuck up publically.

yes, but unironically

how do you see this working tho

[chavela]

Um, i don't see why that is so very good.

do you often see mafia doing that? if so could you show me examples please

Yes, i have met players like Marcistar that break my heart and turn out to be scum even though they enticed me with their sweet and pure posts.

i do not think i have seen marcistar lay out possible narratives in this way and then weigh them

but also i think i've only seen two marcistar mafia games

[humaneatingmonkey]

how do you see this working tho

bugspray trusts Enchant

[NorwegianboyEE]

You know i feel a really strong urge to yolo trust Enchant right now.

[chavela]

Um, i don't see why that is so very good.

do you often see mafia doing that? if so could you show me examples please

Yes, i have met players like Marcistar that break my heart and turn out to be scum even though they enticed me with their sweet and pure posts.

i do not think i have seen marcistar lay out possible narratives in this way and then weigh them

but also i think i've only seen two marcistar mafia games

well could be deepwolfing > if so likely partnered with lurker (which is solid logic as it'd be assumed i would escape unless i felt partner would not get out if i left) > but overall unlikely

is just not something i see mafia doing a lot

i can't really say never but to me it's a pretty towny thought process that just feels a to b to c right

[chavela]

how do you see this working tho

bugspray trusts Enchant

i would like to very very very much vote against this

[humaneatingmonkey]

and if you are right about one of the two players you strongly suspect?

i'm thinking we go deeper into the game eliminating the most obvious suspects

[chavela]

how do you see this working tho

bugspray trusts Enchant

i would like to very very very much vote against this

like if you think enchant is most likely mafia

this is just completely absurd

[humaneatingmonkey]

do you townread bugs, chav?