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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:26 am

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well hmm i dont know. hmm
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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:28 am

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In post 1174, Noraa wrote:
In post 1159, Enchant wrote:Yes, plottwist, i register as "Not-Town" for investigations
you are lying. this cannot be true.
Why?
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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:29 am

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i just read the rules again and hmm.
it says that all investigatives are sane but then in my role pm it says that investigatives with treat me as both town and mafia.
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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:29 am

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i guess the roles take on bigger priority than the saneness of investigatives. never mind.
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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:31 am

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Either way, still can't understand:

1. With what you was paired if that's not Godfather. And this is... Not godfather, because both you and Toog could't receive it at same time.
2. What is deal with Visitor of Andante.
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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:32 am

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my role would give everyone 2 reesults when they interact with me. but your role can exist with the rules as well as my role.
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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:34 am

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Yeah, i understand.

I just don't understand how it possible.
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:37 am

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Alright again.

1. Miller + ??? = Noraa. Idk what role name is.
2. Vengeful + Vigilante = Roden. Town Vengesmith
3. Visitor(?) + Lighting Rod = Andante. Town Force-Visitor
4. Cop + Vengeful = Greeting. Town Revealer
5. Watcher + Cop = Dwlee. Town Lookout.
6. Innocent Child + ??? = Toogeloo. Town Mayor
7. Neighbor + Arsonist = Ircher. Town Ringmaster
8. Arsonist + Absorber = Flea. Mafia Cryomancer
9. Absorber + Neighbor = Almost50. Reflexive Neighbor
10. Lightning Rod + Miller = Enchant. Town Siren.
11. Bus Driver + Condemner = Galron, Town Defense Attorney.
12. Condemner + Bus Driver = Radical Rat, Prosecutor.
13. Vigilante + Watcher = CSF. WatcheVig


So, Visitor and "Somerole" which you and our Mayor panda received are remaining.
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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:38 am

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... Aren't Bus Driver looks off for Galron as well?
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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:46 am

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Nah, need someone more expireinced with that kind of staff.

Let's try process of elumination.

2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13 can be exluded as full pairs which makes sense.
So we have these unsolved fully:


1. Miller + ??? = Noraa. Idk what role name is.
3. Visitor(?) + Lighting Rod = Andante. Town Force-Visitor
6. Innocent VIP (OK we get him back) + ??? = Toogeloo. Town Mayor
11. Bus Driver + Condemner = Galron, Town Defense Attorney.
12. Condemner + Bus Driver = Radical Rat, Prosecutor.

First 3 have one role unknown, last 2 are big assumption which probably wrong.
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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:49 am

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what is a condemner
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:50 am

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also what the fuck was galron. i dont think that's going to make sense no matter what. toog's role seemed to be fused with double vote because the ic doesnt explain why they had 2 votes
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:51 am

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Condemner is Third Party role, which wins when their target (random assigned or Town) are LEMONED via vote. Then Condemner leaves.

Of course we don't have Third Party, but mod allowed to sumbit them. RR had ability which depended on successful elumination of targets, which are appointed by Galron.
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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:52 am

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Galron was a redirector, not a bus driver from what i understood of their role
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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:54 am

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Enchant, why did you not claim Miller earlier?
Maybe the real Mafia was the friends we made along the way

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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:55 am

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In post 1126, MegAzumarill wrote: During each Night, you must visit a player. During the next day and night they are your client.
You control the original target of the night action of your target
[REDIRECTOR]
and they are informed of this at the end of the night
[LOUD?]
. They learn who they targeted and get the results, however. This action cannot be interfered with and is not a visit.

If your target has more than one ability, you will only use one of them, they will know which one and you will not. You cannot control the Mafia Factional kill.
Your client appears as aligned with the opposite alignment to investigation while they are still your client.
[MILLER?]

You know that a player exists that wants to eliminate your client during the day. If your client is eliminated you will lose all of your abilities.
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Your pick was [Redacted]
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:56 am

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Yes.

There's also thing.
Innocent VIP which was submitted by Toog was Redirector as well.
VIP can choose person every night and redirect kills from self on him (For example if someone shots VIP, targeted person die instead). Impressivly lolbalanced.
So Galron could be also ???+Innocent VIP. But it's very strange.
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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:56 am

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In post 1189, Radical Rat wrote:Enchant, why did you not claim Miller earlier?
I feel like that isn't scum indicative and i believe the claim so shrug. like enchant could be scum, but it's not for not claiming miller.
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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:58 am

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In post 1062, MegAzumarill wrote:
Toogeloo died during the night. Their role was
Town Mayor


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Welcome, Toogeloo, you are a
Town Mayor


During the day you may post I Reveal Myself or a similar message in bold. (Anything making it clear you intend to reveal will count.)
If you do you will gain a second vote that you cah use with the Heal Tag HEAL: MegAzumarill and you be publically confirmed to be aligned with the town. The elimination threshold will increase accordingly.
Your extra vote does NOT contribute to town's majority for the purposes of endgame.
At night, if you have not revealed you may PM me schedule your reveal during the daystart PM. This has no effect on any night resolutions.
You can never investigate as aligned with the mafia.
Your pick was [Redacted]
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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:58 am

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that has nothing to do with redirect whatsoever
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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:58 am

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toog ic's and gets a double vote. period. end of story.
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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:00 am

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In post 1191, Enchant wrote:VIP can choose person every night and redirect kills from self on him
hmm. what is lightning rod? i suppose i could be fused with some weaker passive ability.
i cant be fused with visitor busdriver watcher vig whatever because i have no night action. it would never make sense to be fused with a role that has an action. but i could be fused with some passive role that got fused weirdly
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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:01 am

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In post 1194, Noraa wrote:that has nothing to do with redirect whatsoever
Toogeloo claimed his pick was Innocent VIP though is the thing. It seems like only the Innocent part got picked up on, but theoretically the role could be used for redirection
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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:01 am

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In post 1189, Radical Rat wrote:Enchant, why did you not claim Miller earlier?
I didn't want to affect my NK chances and believed real Cops are slim chance, so decided to risk it out. There was also little catch to try decapitate anyone who claim innocent result on me while redirected.

I think i played enough good to pass without being targeted to check, so i think i didn't fuck up.
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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:03 am

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Lighting Rod is passive role, which redirects everyone in game on Self every night.

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