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like have you even put any basic strategic thought into why scum!me decides to tunnel town!ausuka right away from page one?
(1) What if there is a rolecop in the game that can clear Ausuka? What if there's literally any role interaction at all? How does scum me know the setup from the get go?
(2) Why target someone on claim alone? It locks the trajectory without any consideration of play - do you think I expend thread control to force the issue? Where is the motive for locking the trajectory into hardpush if Ausuka town hasn't done anything susp? why not just let someone else take the fall?
(3) Why target with anassociativeright away? If Ausuka/Dats are T/T doesn't this lock a influential vote from flipping my way? If any scum flips outside the pair doesn't this shoot my theory in the foot?
(4) Who the fuck am I even trying to persuade to vote Ausuka? Where is the manipulation happening? If it's some weird invisible manipulation to set up for Day 2, why the fuck would I even spend energy on setting it up when I don't even have a Day One Target? Is Scum!Me supposed to be supremely confident I and my scum partner will both not be able to be limmed therefore I'm focussing all my energy on day two?
(5) why do I bop Ausuka and be ok with being elimmed today ? how does that even make sense for scum me to do?
(6) who am I even manipulating to vote for Ausuka? What is the persuasive angle I am pursuing? How does it work?
(7) If everything above is some garbage wifom plot and I'm doing refuge in Audacity, what's the overarching goal? To escape elim today? I can just escape elim by not doing shit, it's not like this town is doing shit anyway.
(8) Why does any of what I'm doing necessarily have to come from Scum!me? Is it not in the interest of Town!Me to push something in a game state that is static?-
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In post 526, scamper wrote:ari uhh maybe take a breather? i completely empathize with where you're coming from but this is way more than is necessary
I've given Meg a break for 6 days to pursue wherever Meg wanted to go with this line of inquiry but I ran out of patience today-
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Ok first I dont really understand what you mean with the 6 days thing. The game hasn't even lasted 6 days.
For that matter I don't understand why you seem so caught up in the fact I scumread you. You seem frustrated because you don't think my reasonings are valid but I disagree. Disagreemwnts are common in mafia. You should know this. It feels like a weird thing to blow up over.
Like we are playing a game. You are going to be scumread sometimes. Why are you upset? I don't make heads or tails why you seem upset.Imprefection is the spice of life.-
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VOTE: scamper
I think this slot deserves a wagon. They've been knowingly withdrawn from sharing even when asked and overall their progression has felt really awkward for lack of a better term. I get the impression of possibly scum staying under the radar. Either way we need some more information coming from this slot.Imprefection is the spice of life.-
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lets go through this pointIn post 434, MegAzumarill wrote:It's being presented in an incredibly contrived manner.
The approach is terrible logically and is transparantly bad.
Ausuka responded with the type of frustration I'd expect from a townie in this situation.
you think my approach is transparently bad and has terrible logic
why the fuck would my approach succeed if your analysis is correct?-
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this is your second post of analysis on me.In post 445, MegAzumarill wrote:To set up a miselim on Ausuka. (Probably not today but in the future)
To try and gain a strong scum prescence in the thread to direct conversations into this issue
To shade in a way that obfuscates your involvement
so you think my approach is
"transparently bad"
"logically shit"
but you also believe it sets up a "strong scum presence" and "sets up a mislim on Ausuka in the future" in a way that "obfuscates my involvement"
so your genius idea
is that scum!me
has decided to set up a future mislim
in a way that makes it look like I didn't do it
and also is ineffective and horribly illogical and unlikely to be convincing.-
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It turns out its not my job to answer every possible motivation you could have as to doing everything you have done as scum.In post 531, Aristeia wrote:you can try answering any of my questions instead of pretending you dont know how to read
Honestly you seeming to think your actions should clear you makes it feel more like a deliberate choice.
But as I've said, I feel like this isn't being productive and it feels like there's miscommunication of some part here so I'm going to drop it for now.Imprefection is the spice of life.-
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i'm going to be honest i ignored you because there were something 100 new posts that came up and responding to other things grabbed my attentionIn post 532, MegAzumarill wrote:VOTE: scamper
I think this slot deserves a wagon. They've been knowingly withdrawn from sharing even when asked and overall their progression has felt really awkward for lack of a better term. I get the impression of possibly scum staying under the radar. Either way we need some more information coming from this slot.
i have laid out who i am townreading and why, if you are having trouble following that idk what to tell you-
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i'm not asking you for every motivation i'm asking you to present any evidence you've done thinking at allIn post 536, MegAzumarill wrote:It turns out its not my job to answer every possible motivation you could have as to doing everything you have done as scum.-
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In post 536, MegAzumarill wrote:But as I've said, I feel like this isn't being productive and it feels like there's miscommunication of some part here so I'm going to drop it for now.
there's absolutely no miscommunication
this game was stalling
I tried to do something about it
you think this exclusively comes from scum!me
explain your fucking read-
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In post 535, Aristeia wrote:
this is your second post of analysis on me.In post 445, MegAzumarill wrote:To set up a miselim on Ausuka. (Probably not today but in the future)
To try and gain a strong scum prescence in the thread to direct conversations into this issue
To shade in a way that obfuscates your involvement
so you think my approach is
"transparently bad"
"logically shit"
but you also believe it sets up a "strong scum presence" and "sets up a mislim on Ausuka in the future" in a way that "obfuscates my involvement"
so your genius idea
is that scum!me
has decided to set up a future mislim
in a way that makes it look like I didn't do it
and also is ineffective and horribly illogical and unlikely to be convincing.In post 258, MegAzumarill wrote:
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Straw_ManIn post 209, scamper wrote:
no i'm pretty sure i understand, it's just that i don't agree with your thinking, i don't see coral/xayah as "easy" misyeets, you seem to think they are clearly town and me not seeing this reflects poorly on my alignment, i don't agree with your reasons for townreading them and the logic for doing so seems kind of reach-yIn post 207, Datisi wrote:i feel like you're still not understanding what i'm saying in that post or the posts leading up to it, but i am about to pass out so. tomorrow i will rephrase if needed ig
and all that being said i don't really know what it means for your alignment this gameImprefection is the spice of life.-
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I will pretend you have a better grasp on mech, Ausuka's meta, Datisi's meta, and how the game state is
I will pretend you know that Ausuka claiming Mason is utterly NAI or even town indicative.
I will pretend there are BETTER THINGS FOR TOWN ME TO PUSH ON IF I WERE TOWN IN ORDER TO DO SOMETHING IN THIS GAME
TELL ME WHAT THEY ARE.-
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