Sorry I just blanked thought you were done til weekendIn post 872, MegAzumarill wrote:I'll try to catch up best I can this weekend (prolly sunday) but for today give me the tldr
OPEN 868 - Nobility and the Dark Angel | Endgame
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You're right I forgot about that.In post 923, Enchant wrote:
Nobles don't work in Elo. Just in case.In post 922, Herta wrote:And actually if you heal me, I get two votes tomorrow right, so I think that's okay.-
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Crap let me redo the calculationsIn post 920, Herta wrote:Hidden nobles: eiralox, enchant, PBE
Elected nobles: Mathblade (Tapio), Not_Mafia
Not nobled: Herta, Meg
Assuming hidden noble claims are true, DA is in Herta/Meg.
HEAL: Meg
WRT mafia, I don't know.
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Math, there are 7 alive, so 6 into night. The VC says 8 votes because you have 2 votes. So 7 into night, 6 alive tomorrow.
If mafia select DA tonight, DA leaves so 5 alive tomorrow, 3 town 2 maf, with dayvig town loses.
If mafia do not select DA tonight, 6 alive tomorrow, 3 town, 2 maf and 1 DA.
Is that correct?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Condemner is also not scum, but his wincon contradicts town.In post 924, Polar Bear Express wrote:
No they lose if they are ever nobled. A 3p who can hypothetically win with town could be a survivor but both town and mafia wincon contradict DA wincon.In post 914, Enchant wrote:
DA can win with town, they need to die for it though and not be nobled. So they don't really techically "Scum".In post 913, Polar Bear Express wrote:
DA 3p who’s wincon opposes town, so yeah.In post 911, Enchant wrote:DA techically not scum but ok.
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Scum is any player who’s wincon contradicts town.
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Jester is also not scum, but his wincon contradicts town.
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In post 926, Herta wrote:
You're right I forgot about that.In post 923, Enchant wrote:
Nobles don't work in Elo. Just in case.In post 922, Herta wrote:And actually if you heal me, I get two votes tomorrow right, so I think that's okay.There are no Nobles, Hidden Nobles, Noble elections, or Hidden Noble appointments during ELo. ELo happens if the game reaches 2:1 or 3:2 and lasts for the rest of the game.Purchase a ticket aboard the Polar Bear Express and see millions of different kinds of polar bears. For example the nancy unicorn polar bears and the noraa ultrafloofy polar bears.-
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DA winconYou win if you die or survive to endgame without ever being made an elected or hidden noble.
You exit the game and win if the game would reach a ELo state if not for your existence (the game reaches 2:1:1 or 3:2:1).Purchase a ticket aboard the Polar Bear Express and see millions of different kinds of polar bears. For example the nancy unicorn polar bears and the noraa ultrafloofy polar bears.-
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Assuming a town lim and not a DA noble, it goes to 3v2 at night and we lose because DA leaves.
Which means we are in MELO currently.
So actually I think I agree with Enchant that it is safest to elim/noble both me and Herta.Imprefection is the spice of life.-
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So mafia can win with DA as well if they never get nobilized.You win when your faction holds a majority or nothing can prevent this from occurring, and the Dark Angel isn't elected as noble.Purchase a ticket aboard the Polar Bear Express and see millions of different kinds of polar bears. For example the nancy unicorn polar bears and the noraa ultrafloofy polar bears.-
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DA right -> we win (this is omitted for brevity)
7 alive -> DA wrong no elim -> 7 into night. Lose two (DA+NK) 5 alive. Scum have dayvig we lose.
Ergo miselim we lose on DA wrong.
If we decide the DA ourselves we have to elim scum in case we misfire on the DA. Miselim isn’t the safer option if we decide DA.
If we don’t decide the DA ourselves then 7 into night, 50/50 we lose.
That’s a lot less appealing and might be time for hero shot. But yeah we might have to elim one noble the other but I hate the fact I agree with Enchant as he’s so scummy.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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In post 935, Polar Bear Express wrote:
So mafia can win with DA as well if they never get nobilized.You win when your faction holds a majority or nothing can prevent this from occurring, and the Dark Angel isn't elected as noble.
Town autoloses if we guess wrong today.You win when there are no longer any threats to the town.
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Maybe not.In post 932, MegAzumarill wrote:Assuming a town lim and not a DA noble, it goes to 3v2 at night and we lose because DA leaves.
Which means we are in MELO currently.
So actually I think I agree with Enchant that it is safest to elim/noble both me and Herta.
Wait before i receive answer from mod.Wizard-Mercenary
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This. And not guessing is 50/50 loss.In post 937, Polar Bear Express wrote:In post 935, Polar Bear Express wrote:
So mafia can win with DA as well if they never get nobilized.You win when your faction holds a majority or nothing can prevent this from occurring, and the Dark Angel isn't elected as noble.
Town autoloses if we guess wrong today.You win when there are no longer any threats to the town.
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So I hate that I agree with Enchant.
But it might be smart to deny scum the dayvig.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Well yeah, since Mafia can win with or without DA but Town can’t, so don’t know wtf Enchant’s smoking here.In post 934, MegAzumarill wrote:DA probably should be considered scum here since both scum and them want the same thing (today at least) akin to a traitor looks like.
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I am off work give me an hour or so for noms. Then can do more awesome things.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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We don’t have a choice because we lose if we’re wrong on DA today.In post 940, MathBlade wrote:
This. And not guessing is 50/50 loss.In post 937, Polar Bear Express wrote:In post 935, Polar Bear Express wrote:
So mafia can win with DA as well if they never get nobilized.You win when your faction holds a majority or nothing can prevent this from occurring, and the Dark Angel isn't elected as noble.
Town autoloses if we guess wrong today.You win when there are no longer any threats to the town.
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So I hate that I agree with Enchant.
But it might be smart to deny scum the dayvig.
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Break it down?In post 943, Polar Bear Express wrote:
We don’t have a choice because we lose if we’re wrong on DA today.In post 940, MathBlade wrote:
This. And not guessing is 50/50 loss.In post 937, Polar Bear Express wrote:In post 935, Polar Bear Express wrote:
So mafia can win with DA as well if they never get nobilized.You win when your faction holds a majority or nothing can prevent this from occurring, and the Dark Angel isn't elected as noble.
Town autoloses if we guess wrong today.You win when there are no longer any threats to the town.
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So I hate that I agree with Enchant.
But it might be smart to deny scum the dayvig.
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If we DA a non DA not in Meg/Herta then scum have a 50/50
Can you highlight my mistake please?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Don’t see why Herta ever kills Elements here.In post 51, Elements wrote:I like Herta and N_M for town.
HEAL: Polar Bear ExpressI can get behind this vote
VOTE: JunkoChan
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Math, I trust you more than me on mech. This is what I’m basing this on.
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In post 150, Passenger wrote:
Your tone feels strange and it seemed like you were posting just for the sake of posting. It’s a weak read but it was all I had.In post 52, JunkoChan wrote:
I would like to read reasonIn post 51, Elements wrote:I like Herta and N_M for town.
HEAL: Polar Bear ExpressI can get behind this vote
VOTE: JunkoChanIn post 151, Passenger wrote:
This post also jumps out as scum wanting external validation for their pro-town behavior.In post 82, JunkoChan wrote:
Correct, i just wanted to get things goingIn post 80, Polar Bear Express wrote:
it's ok elmo, junko's post was only 50% seriousIn post 30, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Thanks I hate it here. And I do this because I have history with N_M
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Passenger also sr Junko.In post 157, Passenger wrote:
Nancy said that unprompted, but your response to it didn’t add anything and just hammers in the point that you’re doing pro-town behavior.In post 153, JunkoChan wrote:^miss formated that
How is that looking for external validation?
If i was asking people what they thought about my actions, that would make sense, but polar bear asked that unpromted, so your logic is rubish
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Give me a bit after dinner
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