i designed this setup in 2019 [game over]

[Enchant]

I am not that old

[Enchant]

I

I

hm how do you think massclaiming is discouraged in this game?

like mechanically from a design perspective

the signup thread gave a warning about massclaim ending poorly

Do i look like person who solves mech

[Enchant]

Well my tip.

Massclaim never good idea at Day 1, unless setup is open.

[Enchant]

Scum mostly gets power to counter town PRs if they are known generally.

Setups designed to be not have high power when all roles claim (For example, if Cop and Doctor in the game, it WILL be impossible for Doctor to protect Cop every night if he claims. Additionally, mafia can have roleblockers. But it's really really basic).

This game can have anything so don't expect this rule.

[Enchant]

hi uninformed

[Enchant]

saying it's iioa is about the same as saying most posts in a mafia game are iioa. he didn't start speculating about some concept that will let him fart through he game, instead he questioned you. iioa sucks because the person doing it isn't making any worthwhile interactions. by making one it isn't iioa, imo.

what

[Enchant]

Made me look!

[Enchant]

I think voting Gamma is safe option

[Enchant]

No one will miss Gamma

[Enchant]

That isn't a terribly nice thing to say. I actually prodded Gamma to join this game so we could play together.

I actually irony fact that i suspect Gamma in every game.

Didn't mean offense by that.

[Enchant]

No one will miss Gamma

You know they nearly quit this site because of shit like this?

ik my bad

i better shut up for some time

[Enchant]

You probably don't believe me but i do have readlist!

[Enchant]

You probably don't believe me but i do have readlist!

It's not just you as town and everyone else null is it?

No!

I also have NM as Town!
And everyone else null.

[Enchant]

Cool, mason claim d1

[Enchant]

I agree with Titus that Frogster is acting really weird. I've been finding it hard to put into words though.

I can. It's called...

Spoiler: ...

sus

[Enchant]

Frogster appeal on activity for some reason make him trustworthy

[Enchant]

@Titus

@imaginality

@Gamma

@furtive

@Enchant

@Quiet Owl

(I think)


My offer to help the anti town roles policy elim MathBlade will expire in 48 hours, so make your choices soon.

Wait it's free?

VOTE: MathBlade

[Enchant]

Wait what he outed... Except for hood which are useless

[Enchant]

pls keep the hyperposting down since most of the folks I might be able to find as replacements have stated concerns about game length

I never have problem with game length when i replace in!

[Enchant]

I'll break my silence to say I am a TPR with big swing for Town and if a rolestopper is available then I request they visit me tonight because it is important that I get my shots off at night. I feel okay soft claiming because:

1) it's immediately obvious that I am a TPR due to how I am approaching the game, especially to scum, therefore
2) scum may opt to roleblock me if available, in order to waste more of town's time tinfoiling my slot
3) I have finally identified a solid N1 target for my ability, and a roleblocker may not have realized that I require their assistance
4) While I was away I created a new list of D1 candidates for D1 lim (who I am suggesting because my impression is that guidance is required on slots who actually make sense to vote D1:)

Furtive/kittens/George/Enchant

George, furtive, and kittens are all scummy based on simple tells which are easy to spot, while my read on Enchant is both based and based on similarity to their scumgame in TfT. Quiet Owl and MathBlade I swapped out because they are generating more associative tells with other players, commenting on a wider variety of things and in my experience I don't think they are as likely to flip scum as Enchant or George are.

I'm still intending to ghost the thread until Friday night, and after that, I may ghost the thread again for a couple days. Unless anything important happens then I'll mainly just be posting a reads list and maybe my meta case on Gamma. I'm somewhat apathetic who gets voted out as long as it's one of those four. I'd rather other people discuss and choose so the discussion can be read D2. Opportunity to policy lim Mathblade revoked, and I'm switching my vote to furtive because I have a slight preference for that slot over the others:

VOTE: furtiveglance

VOTE: Frog

[Enchant]

Btw i am also powerful town role. Please all protectives on me.

No proofs.

[Enchant]

Btw i am also powerful town role. Please all protectives on me.

No proofs.

while my read on Enchant is both based and based on similarity to their scumgame in TfT.

I knew you were here and only protectives with multitargetting can be on you. *ghosts away*

If i kill you all protectives will be mine

[Enchant]

But at the same time “Don’t kill me I am god’s gift to the game” is really scummy too.

Yeah i also find it suspicious, because it's mostly your phrase.

[Enchant]

I don't really agree that psychiatrist is powerful PR, but it points we have Serial Killer.

[Enchant]

I don't really see what's strange in it.

[Enchant]

I don't really agree that psychiatrist is powerful PR, but it points we have Serial Killer.

Let me run you through the process I have.

We know there was a Psychiatrist. Psychiatrists specifically cure Serial Killers.

We have two nightkills last night, indicating a serial killer was active last night.

We have a duo, Titus + imaginality, who have claimed masons, but whose play does not match that of town masons.

My conclusion is Titus and imaginality are likely a serial killer duo, who likely could have been converted into a vigilante duo had Frogsterking targeted them.

I would happily vote imaginality as a result. There's arguments to be made on holding back. Leashing the serial killers is potentially viable; the theory of them being 3p, while sound, is not 100% definitive, and usually it's better to hunt for scum than to hunt for 3p. I feel a discussion is warranted, but will happily park my vote on anyone with a high chance of being nontown. What type of scum we eliminate is less important; eliminating scum regardless of type is the goal.

Um.

On what you builded this theory

[Enchant]

He never claimed, he just told how he is important.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[Enchant]

i stopped understanding anything

[Enchant]

I don't really agree that psychiatrist is powerful PR, but it points we have Serial Killer.

Let me run you through the process I have.

We know there was a Psychiatrist. Psychiatrists specifically cure Serial Killers.

We have two nightkills last night, indicating a serial killer was active last night.

We have a duo, Titus + imaginality, who have claimed masons, but whose play does not match that of town masons.

My conclusion is Titus and imaginality are likely a serial killer duo, who likely could have been converted into a vigilante duo had Frogsterking targeted them.

I would happily vote imaginality as a result. There's arguments to be made on holding back. Leashing the serial killers is potentially viable; the theory of them being 3p, while sound, is not 100% definitive, and usually it's better to hunt for scum than to hunt for 3p. I feel a discussion is warranted, but will happily park my vote on anyone with a high chance of being nontown. What type of scum we eliminate is less important; eliminating scum regardless of type is the goal.

Um. On what you builded this theory

835, 871, 967, 1109, 960 from MT (MT died last night and is conftown), 1185 from Prince, 1187 from Prince, 1194 from Prince, 1197 from Prince.

imaginality's play has been suspect from the onset. The only reason he wasn't put under pressure was Titus covering for him. Titus herself covered for imaginality in a suspect way; instead of defending him by play and only resorting to breadcrumbs, she went straight to breadcrumbs and didn't even try to argue anything else. Their play doesn't match that of actual masons.

Then, we have two kills last night, one of them being Morning Tweet, a player who was suspect of them. Two kills suggests serial killer.
Frogsterking was a Psychiatrist. Psychiatrist suggests serial killer.
By mod meta, it is quite likely for there to be a serial killer duo as that is a known role which xyzzy would both be familiar with and likely to employ.

Everything fits.

bruh

[Enchant]

VOTE: Titus

Eh

[Enchant]

I am mod confirmed to be in this game

[Enchant]

I suppose it's time for me to full claim.

I am
1) a neighbor with imaginality
2) I know imaginality to be town
3) I am a night 4 suicide bomber
4) imaginality is a night five rolecop

What difference neighbor and masons have if you know alignments of each other then.

[Enchant]

Kitty not claiming weak.

[Enchant]

I am a Town Multitasking Odd Night Fruit Vendor Even Night Vegetable Vendor 1-Shot Meat Vendor neighbor

[Enchant]

Do huzzy known for lying to players

[Enchant]

VOTE: Not_Mafia


hahahahaha

[Enchant]

Atleast mod didn't say that me being in game is mod error.

[Enchant]

not inviting me in townbloc reeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Enchant]

you're scummy and need death

finally jester wincon

[Enchant]

i haven't put much effort into defending myself because i see my elimination as inevitable. i don't act like normal town. never have, probably never will. therefore i am trying to arrange my iso to be useful after my death, which will prove my alignment and in theory then be helpful. arguing over my alignment is a distraction, and i think it's very very easy for scum to get brownie points by going after me.

based

Locktown

[Enchant]

I found it under YouTube Kids. :/[/b]

rookie mistake

[Enchant]

I wanted to rate every post in game

but then i realised

i am too lazy

[Enchant]

did anyone watch "i am legend"

well that's how i feel in this game basically

[Enchant]

I wanted to rate every post in game

but then i realised

i am too lazy

They're all bad

can't argue with that

[Enchant]

so apparently we have a scum redirector that redirected actions sent to titus to elements. and yeah I think that makes sense if elements is town. I was already townreading elements anyway so this is just further evidence.

why you think so

[Enchant]

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

[Enchant]

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

What's on your mind Enchant?

You force reveal of one of most powerful roles in the game.

[Enchant]

If it was mafia redirector, they just swap them with some unprotected lurker and kill titus unopposed.

[Enchant]

If it was mafia redirector, they just swap them with some unprotected lurker and kill titus unopposed.

the hypothetical was to swap titus out of a potential vig shot to save her as mis-lim material

I wonder what idiot would shot mason claim.

[Enchant]

If it was mafia redirector, they just swap them with some unprotected lurker and kill titus unopposed.

the hypothetical was to swap titus out of a potential vig shot to save her as mis-lim material

I wonder what idiot would shot mason claim.

Is this a jab at my pushing for limming mason N_M that game?

yes and then mislimming me at 4 ppl elo.

[Enchant]

If it was mafia redirector, they just swap them with some unprotected lurker and kill titus unopposed.

the hypothetical was to swap titus out of a potential vig shot to save her as mis-lim material

I wonder what idiot would shot mason claim.

are you even reading this game?

partially

[Enchant]

why would town redirector redirect from titus to elements though? anyway

why not

[Enchant]

but enchant has a point, redirector shouldn't claim yo

why would town redirector redirect from titus to elements though? anyway

Yeah exactly, i think it was a scum action

I think it's worth claiming, because if no one claims it, it's very likely we have scum in titus and elements, and that's important knowledge

Die

[Enchant]

Chainsaw harder

[Enchant]

MORE

[Enchant]

I REFUSE TO FLIP NOT_MAFIA

[Enchant]

I REFUSE TO FLIP NOT_MAFIA

Yes because he's convenient cover for distracting people from you.

YES

[Enchant]

I'm not liking enchant this game at all

Like i was ever liked by anyone ever

[Enchant]

I liked you in the game we mislimmed you

thanks...............................

[Enchant]

No u

[Enchant]

I don't feel bad

[Enchant]

I think so, yes. you caught what I'm seeing re: NM acting survivalistic

Anti-Jester wincon

[Enchant]

IMAGINE I AM VIGILANTE

[Enchant]

Can we tone down the snark a little? I literally can't ascertain whether anything you say at all should be taken seriously or not.

Also, again, why you don't want to flip N_M?

why i would want to flip N_M?

[Enchant]

Can we tone down the snark a little? I literally can't ascertain whether anything you say at all should be taken seriously or not.

Also, again, why you don't want to flip N_M?

why i would want to flip N_M?

This is not the problem. The thing is you REFUSE TO FLIP N_M, that's much a stronger utterance than simply stating you don't think we should flip them.

I think i can read NM

[Enchant]

do you have anything you want to ask to anyone?

Do you like rice?

I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.

[Enchant]

VOTE: enchant

honk honk

[Enchant]

@NM wanna quickhammer

[Enchant]

Let's go

I am amazed that elements actually waited for your response and then unvoted after 1min.

[Enchant]

There's conspiracy against us

[Enchant]

Nah, if we vote it will not go anywhere anyway.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Kitten

[Enchant]

UNVOTE:

[Enchant]

Though Enchant isn't the type of player to not shoot N1 I think lol.

You are actually wrong

[Enchant]

VOTE: Kitten

[Enchant]

Kind of hard for me to develop reads on NM, McMenno and Enchant. I want more info, but I think Enchant is the worst among them because they have shown they could have a protown agenda but doesn't seem to give a fuck.

... Are this compliment?

[Enchant]

This game is mistake

[Enchant]

Sounds like Desperado role

[Enchant]

I don't expect something normal from this setup so it's possible. I can say it's likely.

Just collecting claims and actions of roles will take bulk of my time and i have no wish to deal with it now

[Enchant]

I am also conftown

[Enchant]

Jealous huh

[Enchant]

Dead players sended messages who final mafia is.

You still didn't manage.

Mafia deserved this win after such incompetency.

[Enchant]

oh damn
Were there spoilers or did the dead thread just have good reads?
I'd love to read it

there were some scum in there who weren't too pleased about dying

Yeah i want my messages at minimum redacted.

I am incredible pissed because i wanted to betray and simple didn't apply action in time