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Post Post #4175 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:36 am

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6.02
Votecount 6.02

Bellaphant (2):
Eiralox, Flea The Magician.
Eiralox (1):
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Not Voting (2):
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With 5 players alive, it takes 3 to eliminate someone.

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Post Post #4176 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:48 am

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@nancy, Ita just really draining to have eira be so aggressive. I don't like arguments at the best of times.

I'm here to answer questions from you, mala and flea but I am genuinely disappointed.
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Post Post #4177 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:50 am

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In post 4171, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 3591, Aisa wrote:
4.09
Votecount 4.09 (Final)


Gimli (5):
BlueBloodedToffee, Malakittens, Eiralox, Bellaphant, Killing Joke.
Eiralox (4):
Flea The Magician,
Elements
, Radical Rat, Gimli.

Not Voting (0):
-

With 9 players alive, it took 5 to eliminate someone.

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2023-02-12 15:30:00).

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@Bella why does Elements hardbus Eira here?
To set up today? Look at the mech: if Elly ever flips, you get conf!town. It's better for scum to flip eira than Elly, right?
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Post Post #4178 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:56 am

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Like, I don't know what is going on with eira but all game I've been calm and civil and had to deal with other people not being that. It's incredibly frustrating to be here, with my biggest town read suddenly doubting me because someone is, once again, yelling louder.


I was against the std elim and frog called me anti town for pointing out scum were fine with two stagnant wagons (on town!)

Flea calls me bad for shooting the same person as bbt.

People use the r word. The bible thing. Flea and our various issues. Now eira.

Sorry for the ate but it's just....really hard.
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Post Post #4179 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:57 am

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The gimli elim was my biggest mistake, I'm genuinely annoyed with myself for my vote
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Post Post #4180 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:58 am

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New question: if I'm scum, why did scum shoot inaction Dan?
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Post Post #4181 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:00 am

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If I have to be a dick to stop us losing, it isn't worth it to me. I'm never going to be that sort of player or person.

Like, you can say it's a game all you like but some people clearly will go to levels I'm not comfy with to win.
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Post Post #4182 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:04 am

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@Bella, why are you only directing this to me and not Mala or Flea? Ngl, it’s starting to feel a bit like you’re trying to guilt trip me here.

And you’re focusing all it on to me. I understand you’re frustrated. But Eira and Flea have made some pretty compelling points.

And all you’re doing to counteract them is repeat black spot but don’t explain why Eira’s play makes sense as scum/Elements/Enchant buddy?
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Post Post #4183 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:05 am

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In post 4180, Bellaphant wrote: New question: if I'm scum, why did scum shoot inaction Dan?
I have no clue. Can you explain your role to me and how it works again please?
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Post Post #4184 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:07 am

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In post 4181, Bellaphant wrote: If I have to be a dick to stop us losing, it isn't worth it to me. I'm never going to be that sort of player or person.

Like, you can say it's a game all you like but some people clearly will go to levels I'm not comfy with to win.
Bella, AtE from ANYONE isn’t going to sway me. What will is logic and you haven’t done anything to debunk the logic of Eira’s play not really making a whole lot of sense as scum.
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Post Post #4185 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:33 am

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It's not at you, that's just how I feel.

Flea is currently voting me

I've already said In hear to answe questions from anyone, and in asking everyone. It's not all about you ;)

I just explained why eira being elimed over Elly was better for scum

It's hard for me to argue why scum look better when they've been able to plan, without just saying...they've been able to plan. The whole pint is informed.

My role: as bosun, I'm kinda 'in charge ', so I get to submit a target each night that redirects a kill from me (if and only if I was targetted) to another player. I don't know if it works, as I don't get todl I've been targetted. So I've submitted every night.

The only day someone I submitted got targetted was action Dan. So scum either bs me, or action Dan. But even I don't know which!
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Post Post #4186 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:06 am

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@nancy, can you explain what is it specifically about eiras play that doesn't make sense as scum, so I can work out what the issue is: I want to respond to you.
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Post Post #4187 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:59 am

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In post 4186, Bellaphant wrote: @nancy, can you explain what is it specifically about eiras play that doesn't make sense as scum, so I can work out what the issue is: I want to respond to you.
I don’t see why Elements tries to hardbus Eira. Can you reread Flea’s case on Eira!town and explain to me what you disagree with about it?
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Post Post #4188 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:12 pm

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In post 4175, Aisa wrote:
6.02
Votecount 6.02

Bellaphant (2):
Eiralox, Flea The Magician.
Eiralox (1):
Bellaphant.

Not Voting (2):
Nancy Drew 39, Malakittens.

With 5 players alive, it takes 3 to eliminate someone.

Day 6 ends in (expired on 2023-02-23 23:25:00).

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Post Post #4189 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:07 pm

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Which post, Nancy
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Post Post #4190 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:20 pm

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In post 4172, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 4096, Flea The Magician wrote:
Spoiler: Day final votecounts, colourised c2023.


In post 1078, furtiveglance wrote:
1.17
Votecount 1.17 (Final)

Save The Dragons
(9):
Gamma Emerald
,
ActionDan
,
Titus
,
Nancy Drew 39
,
Enchant
,
Gimli
,
Elements
,
Eiralox
,
Save The Dragons
.
Passenger
(5):
BlueBloodedToffee
, Flea The Magician, Bellaphant, Malakittens,
HighPrincessErinys
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Elements
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Passenger
.
Gimli
(1):
Radical Rat
.

Not Voting (0): -

With 16 players alive, it took 9 to eliminate someone.

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In post 1885, Aisa wrote:
2.16
Votecount 2.16 (Final)

HighPrincessErinys
(8):
Titus
,
Gamma Emerald
,
BlueBloodedToffee
,
Gimli
,
Elements
,
Radical Rat
, Flea The Magician,
Nancy Drew 39
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Gimli
(1): Malakittens.
Bellaphant (1):
ActionDan
.
Nancy Drew 39
(1):
Eiralox
.
Malakittens (1):
HighPrincessErinys
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ActionDan
(1): Bellaphant.

Not Voting (1):
Enchant
.

With 14 players alive, it took 8 to eliminate someone.

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In post 2802, furtiveglance wrote:
3.10
Votecount 3.10 (Final)

Gamma Emerald
(7):
Nancy Drew 39
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Radical Rat
, Bellaphant,
Gimli
,
BlueBloodedToffee
,
Elements
,
Enchant
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Elements
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Eiralox
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Gamma Emerald
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Eiralox
(1): Flea The Magician.
Enchant
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ActionDan
.

Not Voting (1): Malakittens.

With 12 players alive, it took 7 to eliminate someone.

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In post 3591, Aisa wrote:
4.09
Votecount 4.09 (Final)


Gimli
(5):
BlueBloodedToffee
, Malakittens,
Eiralox
, Bellaphant,
Nancy Drew 39
.
Eiralox
(4): Flea The Magician,
Elements
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Radical Rat
,
Gimli
.

Not Voting (0): -

With 9 players alive, it took 5 to eliminate someone.

Day 4 ends in Expired.

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In post 4027, Aisa wrote:
5.06
Votecount 5.06 (final)

Elements
(4):
Eiralox
,
Radical Rat
, Nancy Drew 39,
Elements
.

Not Voting (3): Bellaphant, Flea The Magician, Malakittens.

With 7 players alive, it took 4 to eliminate someone.

Day 5 ends in Expired.

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Also D5. I am convinced Eira is spotted town here.
This one. Imo, VCAs are pretty compelling stuff.
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Post Post #4191 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:31 pm

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In post 4176, Bellaphant wrote: Ita just really draining to have eira be so aggressive.
I apologize, such behavior was unneeded.
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Post Post #4192 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:36 pm

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@nancy, do you mean eira and Elly cross voting? I've explained twice why that is pro town: if it isn't that, or there is something that doesn't make sense, pleas let me know.

@ all, how many scum left?
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Post Post #4193 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:36 pm

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Pro scum, obviously
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Post Post #4194 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:45 pm

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My current belief, as it was end of Day 5 in concurrence with Radical Rat, is that there's exactly one mutineer and one quasi-traitor left.

My current process of Bellaphant -> Malakittens remains unchanged.

I admit I'm not hundred percent certain what exactly MalaKittens is, so I wholly trust Rad Rat here that they are a traitor who used a one shot kill on Enchant.

Furthermore I re-affirm my belief that Bellaphant is not a redirector, I also highly doubt that they are a boatswain.

As to what Bellaphant's true role is, I have come to no speculative conclusion.
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Post Post #4195 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:49 pm

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So mala became a traitor after she killed enchant?

So then, why did scum target inaction Dan, as someone else said?
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Post Post #4196 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:04 pm

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As laid out by Radical Rat, Mala was a traitor before killing Enchant. I highly doubt this setup has alignment changes, as far as I know that's a bastard mechanic.

ActionDan was killed because Enhcant had a result on them. Killing ActionDan enabled Elements to 'prove' the validity of their role and enabled Bellaphant to craft a role for themselves: Redirector, by stating they in fact chose ActionDan to deflect the kill towards, being certain they were responsible for ActionDan's demise instead of scum targeting Dan on their own.

Bellaphant later goes on to say they also targeted Flea with the same role, then later said something about being 'one-shot.'

I have nothing else to say.
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Post Post #4197 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:35 pm

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I've explained I am 'one shot' for it working! I don't know if it worked, ever. I've targetted every night

Ok, so mala shot her scum buddy because?
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Post Post #4198 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:36 pm

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I'm not going to ask you why I would bother to act the way I did the day ad died as scum, I won't get a good faith answer. In fact, even flea couldn't answer without basically calling me bad town.
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Post Post #4199 (ISO) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:46 pm

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I stand fully by my previous statement and make no amendments.

If Mala is a traitor, they were not aware of Enchant's alignment: As to why they chose that shot, any answer I give will be pure speculation. Perhaps enough people were stating their unwillingness to vote Enchant, perhaps Mala identified who they thought their mutineers friends are and they seemed to want Enchant gone: Pure speculation.

A full-out redirector is vastly overpowered for crew in this setup, especially in the exact situation we currently exist in.

Beyond this, I have nothing to add

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