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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:23 pm

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votecount 1.1
  • Aliana [2]:
    Doctor Drew (), Aliana ()
    Doctor Drew [1]:
    JasonWazza ()
    Ircher [1]:
    imaginality ()
    imaginality [1]:
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    JasonWazza [1]:
    Merlyn ()
    Merlyn [1]:
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    it takes 5 votes to put someone in the box

    deadline:
    (expired on 2023-06-30 17:07:12)
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Doctor Drew votes Aliana ()
JasonWazza votes Doctor Drew ()
imaginality votes Ircher ()
Aliana votes Aliana ()
Ircher votes imaginality ()
Merlyn votes JasonWazza ()
ceejayvinoya votes Merlyn ()

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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:25 pm

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In post 39, ceejayvinoya wrote: We don't even know if voting mafia to be put in the box will help town lol
In post 44, biancospino wrote:
In post 42, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 39, ceejayvinoya wrote: We don't even know if voting mafia to be put in the box will help town lol
We don't even know whether a scum exist here lol
Frankly unless there's strong evidence of the contrary it's probably best to just assume there is
So if we can spot a player here playing like a jester, we may assume 'putting mafia in the box doesn't help town'?
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:25 pm

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Oh no, miss the pagetop lol
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:28 pm

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Do you guys know similar serups concerning crazy mechanics with numbers? I couldn't come up with any.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:28 pm

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In post 49, biancospino wrote:
In post 46, JasonWazza wrote: Maybe a certain other number (EG +1, +2, -1, -2 etc.) receives the box and gets to decide when they look in the box?
That I doubt may be the case, since there is only one Box, not one box for each boxed player (as proved by the fact that the (empty) Box already exists, and is also capitalized)
Seems weird that it's only capitalized in the one instance though (this is my paranoia kicking into overdrive)

But will also point out it is also referred to as the box each time, so yeah maybe so.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:29 pm

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In post 51, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 39, ceejayvinoya wrote: We don't even know if voting mafia to be put in the box will help town lol
In post 44, biancospino wrote:
In post 42, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 39, ceejayvinoya wrote: We don't even know if voting mafia to be put in the box will help town lol
We don't even know whether a scum exist here lol
Frankly unless there's strong evidence of the contrary it's probably best to just assume there is
So if we can spot a player here playing like a jester, we may assume 'putting mafia in the box doesn't help town'?
This would assume the "Mafia" have knowledge of the mechanics, and that's not necessarily true.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:30 pm

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In post 0, bugspray wrote: Nobody (this is not a person, there is simply nobody inside of the box.
And anyone noticing the bracket is incomplete?
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:30 pm

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In post 55, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 51, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 39, ceejayvinoya wrote: We don't even know if voting mafia to be put in the box will help town lol
In post 44, biancospino wrote:
In post 42, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 39, ceejayvinoya wrote: We don't even know if voting mafia to be put in the box will help town lol
We don't even know whether a scum exist here lol
Frankly unless there's strong evidence of the contrary it's probably best to just assume there is
So if we can spot a player here playing like a jester, we may assume 'putting mafia in the box doesn't help town'?
This would assume the "Mafia" have knowledge of the mechanics, and that's not necessarily true.
Hmmm, that's true. Haven't thought about that, though.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:31 pm

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Maybe there's one box that gets passed around?
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:31 pm

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In post 51, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 39, ceejayvinoya wrote: We don't even know if voting mafia to be put in the box will help town lol
In post 44, biancospino wrote:
In post 42, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 39, ceejayvinoya wrote: We don't even know if voting mafia to be put in the box will help town lol
We don't even know whether a scum exist here lol
Frankly unless there's strong evidence of the contrary it's probably best to just assume there is
So if we can spot a player here playing like a jester, we may assume 'putting mafia in the box doesn't help town'?
I mean, if we spot a player obviously trying to be limmed they may just be an actual jester.

I realize that this game is likely whack, but if we don't want to vote for scum then it's basically not even mafia and I don't see the need to bring out that much tinfoil yet.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:32 pm

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I don't like that the votes are with post numbers so i want to test something for the next VC.

VOTE: Merlyn
VOTE: Ircher
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:32 pm

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How do we (the town) even win/lose the game if there isn't an anti-town faction opposing us?
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:33 pm

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In post 60, JasonWazza wrote: I don't like that the votes are with post numbers so i want to test something for the next VC.

VOTE: Merlyn
VOTE: Ircher
Why don't you like it? That's a pretty common thing for mods to do.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:38 pm

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In post 61, Aliana wrote: How do we (the town) even win/lose the game if there isn't an anti-town faction opposing us?
Because we don't know the full setup yet! Imo the scum may only appears after we put someone in the box, or the setup just can't be that annoying to deal with.

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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:39 pm

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In post 62, Aliana wrote:
In post 60, JasonWazza wrote: I don't like that the votes are with post numbers so i want to test something for the next VC.

VOTE: Merlyn
VOTE: Ircher
Why don't you like it? That's a pretty common thing for mods to do.
I'm a very paranoid person, and bugspray in previous games hasn't used post numbers in VC's (i checked)
In post 0, bugspray wrote: Day phases last for 168 hours (seven earth spinnies). During this time all players must vote on who to put into the box.
And i'll note that the above doesn't actually say that the deadline passes when we put X people into the box
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:43 pm

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In post 0, bugspray wrote: Day phases last for 168 hours (seven earth spinnies). During this time all players must vote on who to put into the box.
In post 0, bugspray wrote: Elimination
- Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to eliminate somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no elimination, the day will end without an elimination. At evens, 50% is sufficient for no elimination.
Are these rules paradoxical?
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:44 pm

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I'm going to vote for no elim after the next vc, and see if bugspray would allow this.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:44 pm

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In post 56, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 0, bugspray wrote: Nobody (this is not a person, there is simply nobody inside of the box.
And anyone noticing the bracket is incomplete?
See, now I'm thinking that you chose the word
bracket
(which is an unusual way to refer to () marks; it would generally refer to [] or 〈〉marks) deliberately to crumb something since it is relevant in quantum physics
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:45 pm

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In post 64, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 62, Aliana wrote:
In post 60, JasonWazza wrote: I don't like that the votes are with post numbers so i want to test something for the next VC.

VOTE: Merlyn
VOTE: Ircher
Why don't you like it? That's a pretty common thing for mods to do.
I'm a very paranoid person, and bugspray in previous games hasn't used post numbers in VC's (i checked)
In post 0, bugspray wrote: Day phases last for 168 hours (seven earth spinnies). During this time all players must vote on who to put into the box.
And i'll note that the above doesn't actually say that the deadline passes when we put X people into the box
Ok, interesting.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:45 pm

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My brain is way too fried for this game right now (what was I thinking joining? XD) so I think I'm going to call it a night.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:46 pm

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In post 66, heipizhu4 wrote: I'm going to vote for no elim after the next vc, and see if bugspray would allow this.
I can do this though.

VOTE: No Elimination
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:46 pm

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bianco, that might be a bit paranoid, because at least as far as i know, they are all referred to as brackets at all times (at least in Australia, might be different in other versions of english)
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:48 pm

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Actually, you know what i want to ask this, does everyone have Reality feels unstable in their role PM?
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:50 pm

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In post 67, biancospino wrote: (which is an unusual way to refer to () marks; it would generally refer to [] or 〈〉marks)
Tbh, I call all these 3 'brackets'. Anyway, interesting observation.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:55 pm

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In post 65, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 0, bugspray wrote: Day phases last for 168 hours (seven earth spinnies). During this time all players
must
vote on who to put into the box.
In post 0, bugspray wrote: Elimination
- Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to eliminate somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no elimination, the day will end without an elimination. At evens, 50% is sufficient for no elimination.
Are these rules paradoxical?
Is the paradox in the
must
? I think "nobody" is a fine answer to "who should be put into the box?".

This is a test:
VOTE: Ircher
Vote for Elimination: imaginality

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In post 67, biancospino wrote: (which is an unusual way to refer to () marks; it would generally refer to [] or 〈〉marks)
Tbh, I call all these 3 'brackets'. Anyway, interesting observation.
Fair. I would generally call () parenthesis or parens, but full disclosure, English is not my first language

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