Micro 1084 | Quantum Mafia | Game Over

[Doctor Drew]

Feels very similar to Brass and Shrapnel to me.

Interesting, my scum read on them was more because of GrandpaMo....maybe I need to check that game out again.

[qm camille]

votecount 1.9

• Merlyn [3]:
  Aliana (184), Doctor Drew (190), imaginality (308)
  
  Doctor Drew [2]:
  Ircher (119), ceejayvinoya (269)
  
  heipizhu4 [2]:
  biancospino (113), JasonWazza (273)
  
  imaginality [1]:
  heipizhu4 (103)
  
  
  
  not voting [1]:
  Merlyn (133)
  
  it takes 5 votes to put someone in the box
  
  
  deadline:
  (expired on 2023-06-30 17:07:12)

Spoiler: votelog

Doctor Drew votes Aliana (3)
JasonWazza votes Doctor Drew (10)
imaginality votes Ircher (12)
Aliana votes Aliana (13)
Ircher votes imaginality (14)
Merlyn votes JasonWazza (23)
ceejayvinoya votes Merlyn (30)
JasonWazza votes Merlyn (60)
JasonWazza votes Ircher (60)
heipizhu4 unvotes (63)
Aliana votes no elimination (70)
biancospino votes Ircher (74)
Doctor Drew votes heipizhu4 (84)
JasonWazza votes heipizhu4 (86)
heipizhu4 votes heipizhu4(87)
heipizhu4 unvotes (87)
heipizhu4 votes biancospino (87)
heipizhu4 votes imaginality (103)
biancospino votes heipizhu4 (113)
Ircher votes Doctor Drew (119)
Merlyn votes heipizhu4 (123)
Merlyn unvotes (133)
ceejayvinoya votes biancospino (165)
imaginality votes Doctor Drew (169)
Aliana votes Merlyn (184)
Doctor Drew votes Merlyn (190)
JasonWazza votes Aliana (208)
ceejayvinoya votes Merlyn (265)
ceejayvinoya votes Doctor Drew (269)
JasonWazza votes heipizhu4 (273)
imaginality votes Merlyn (308)

joint moderator ISO

[heipizhu4]

Hi heipizhu, I don't think you ever answered my question earlier about 232.

There is no sample pm.
We have completely no idea how many scums are there

We don't even know whether a scum exist here lol

It's a mix of this stuff here is the reason i thought that i'm concerned with Heip.

Scum would be more worried about sample PM's it feels like, because town at least have a PM that is usable for claiming and whatnot, it's the scum that would potentially be more concerned of not having a sample PM.

Then the "no idea how many scum there is" this seems really weird, especially followed slightly after with "we don't know if they exist" there is no reason to think that we would be in a game with no scum.

This all adds up to me thinking that this is Scum.

I don't like how you quote my 37. This is a post dumping all my observations on the GMs and rules, and it seems you are wrongly pushing me by only quoting part of my posts.

42 is a semi-joke where I'm making up a hypotheses that the true setup could be way more bastard than we imagine.

>Concerned of not having a sample pm
If I were a scum, why shouldn't ask the mod directly for the sample pm since the lack of sample pm is a moderation error?
And I believe we have got lot of information after the scum pm was revealed as mentioned in 96

The above post is the selective quoting thing I wanna say before you questioned me (And I've called it 'inaccurate quote' where a 'selective quoting' is a better name). What I wanted to say is that jason has quoted my posts out of the original content. Take post 42 as an example, I replied to ceej with this:

We don't even know if voting mafia to be put in the box will help town lol

We don't even know whether a scum exist here lol

However, jason has removed ceej's joke inside my quote and use this as an accusation on me, which made me unhappy about his reasoning.

[heipizhu4]

Also, did you not have any analysis for the first three or so pages? Mechanical stuff can be harder to read, but there's usually something to gleam there too.

No, haven't noticed anything worth mentioning. Perhaps We could go back after more info come out in d2 I guess?

[Merlyn]

ah, the patented "voting Merlyn for vibes" vote that's happened so much in this game.

Don't like being caught for the wrong reasons?

Not gonna answer the question, huh?

[Doctor Drew]

Drew, you think Ircher is scummy bc of they way they defended heip, yes? The implication being that they're sticking their neck out for their scumbuddy. But you say you think it's me and Ircher together as scum. So how does that add up?

Drew, you think Ircher is scummy bc of they way they defended heip, yes? The implication being that they're sticking their neck out for their scumbuddy. But you say you think it's me and Ircher together as scum. So how does that add up?

Mhm, no, and we've gone over this point already; 249, 251.

Drew, you think Ircher is scummy bc of they way they defended heip, yes? The implication being that they're sticking their neck out for their scumbuddy. But you say you think it's me and Ircher together as scum. So how does that add up?

I don't really think this is an issue. Drew scum reads you and me independently of each other. That doesn't mean we're scum together, but rather, we're Drew's two strongest reads. Trying to form associative reads on Day 1 is a fool's errand.

Literally has been answered twice, I mean Bianco and Ircher got it.....why can't you.

Also point out exactly where I said you and Ircher are buddies please.

[Merlyn]

What I can't get about it is that it didn't come from you. I like the explanation, but two other players provided it for you. I was interested to see if you'd come up with your own answer or just let them do the explaining for you.

[Merlyn]

Okay, here's my current reads:

Spoiler: beware of the wall!

Ceejay- I like their posts a lot- I like the way they look for things they find strange and use their vote to pressure.

Jason- I haven’t learned to read Jason well yet, he’s got a very good scumgame. But I’m going with town for little things, like shutting down an extraneous convo that sprung up between him and Drew instead of letting it distract from scumhunting.

Bianco- there is a ton of what I think of as ‘hole-poking’ posts, where someone pokes holes in another persons thought process. I actually like it when people do this, but it’s probably worth noting that there’s not a lot of real case building on their own.

Drew- ugh, I haven’t learned to read Drew yet either. I feel like he’s sliding by piggybacking on other people’s opinions, but I’ve seen him down this as town too.

Imaginality- 5 posts, null read

Aliana- All posts are about mech or jokes until page 6. Page 7 is the first scumhunting, it’s on me and she’s stuck with it. Could it be town who’s just feeling convinced they’ve solved early? Yes, of course, but that’s not my usual take on how Aliana works. Usually there’s a ton of hesitancy and questioning her own reads. This might be scum flying under the radar here

Heip- they’re new, and I think it’s so easy to let scumtells slip by bc experienced players are too generous with their townreads. I think they could be scum, who, with a litte coaching from a partner, has righted the ship.

Ircher- so here’s something interesting- 15 of Irchers 28 posts are about or related to heip. I was kind leaning towards ‘overgenerous experienced player who is trying to help someone new’ but after I read all the posts in succession like that I swung towards trying to save a partner.

So yeah, VOTE: Ircher

[JasonWazza]

Are those in order Merlyn?

[Doctor Drew]

What I can't get about it is that it didn't come from you. I like the explanation, but two other players provided it for you. I was interested to see if you'd come up with your own answer or just let them do the explaining for you.

Well considering I literally explained my reads on you and Ircher as separate, why did I need to state it again?

[Aliana]

That readslist is...certainly interesting.

[JasonWazza]

UNVOTE: heipizhu4
VOTE: Merlyn

This is E-1

[biancospino]

I'm feeling like being rash this morrow.

VOTE: Merlyn

[Aliana]

O_O

[heipizhu4]

Wait, hammered?
So fast?

[heipizhu4]

@Bianco Any specific reason for quickhammer?

[Doctor Drew]

I'm feeling like being rash this morrow.

VOTE: Merlyn

Che cazzo

[Aliana]

I was going to actually ISO people and look at the readslist in greater depth, but for now I'll say that (1) it just felt tonally off for some reason when I read it and (2) what part of my ISO looks like I might be convinced I have it solved? It feels like a misrepresentative take, unless I've somehow managed to misrep myself?

[biancospino]

@Bianco Any specific reason for quickhammer?

Yes, as I realize you are likely not a lim that can be achieved toDay, I do not dislike Merlyn as a backup lim.

And, I do believe there are no non-QTs townies, so claims wouldn't have swayed me anyway

[Aliana]

Couldn't someone be a Quantum Town PR? Like, replace the word PR there with a role.

[JasonWazza]

We had a few people basically somewhat admit that they were just a QT, but I expect bianco to point out tomorrow where enough people did it for them to say that there is no non-QT townies.

[biancospino]

Scum Role PM

Welcome to Quantum Mafia You are a

Quantum Goon

You have a partner. Each night, you and your partner can collectively choose one player to put in a box. You must choose which of you will put that player in the box. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when all Quantum Town

ies

are dead.

Reality feels unstable.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

I mean, it's basically mod confirmed

[heipizhu4]

So could vanilla townie here refered to a town pr who ISN'T lied by the mod?

[Aliana]

I typically use "townie" to mean "town-aligned player" so I didn't really see it like that.

[JasonWazza]

This is definitely the Bianco from Brass and Shrapnel just FYI.