Open 879: Fire and More Fire [game over]

[Donempire]

My elim list, from most confident to least confident. Besides the blsck wagon aren't considered for now, i have some theories about osuka (specifically regarding bingle) and umlaut but i'll reveal them in another post.

Ausuka
Firebringer
Bingle
Merlyn
Drew
Rat

[Donempire]

Bottom 3 i townread all of them to some extent. If there are no scum in the top 3, i'd be down to lim outside of that list, probably only sheep though. I think this 4 is a guaranteed solve, but don't underestimate my ability to throw certain victory, right bingle?

[Ausuka]

yeet

Black [8]:

Firebringer,

Meuh

, Radical Rat, Doctor Drew, Bingle, Merlyn, Ausuka, Donempire

[HAMMER]

Bingle [2]:

The Bulge

, osuka

Doctor Drew [1]:

sheepsaysmeep

Firebringer [1]:

Black

Merlyn [1]:

Invisibility

sheepsaysmeep [1]:

Umlaut

not voting [1]:

Skygazer

I would be quite surprised to learn there was only one scum on Black.

Does anyone disagree with this and think it's likely there was only one scum on Black? Because that's... kind of important for where we choose to vote today.

Is it? Scum didn't even know Black's alignment and it was a rushed end-of-day wagon. I would have believed it possible that there were zero scum on the wagon if Meuh hadn't flipped red. There could also be three scum on the wagon or two or one, I don't know and I don't really see why you're treating it as a point of focus.

I disagree. It was rushed but that exact reason might be why scum voted there in the first place. In hindsight knowing black's flip that should be obvious, but scum had 11/13 chance of hitting town, and the less discussion on one the better, so i agree with umlaut that there should be at least one more scum on the wagon. Scum would gain to rush a wagon that they knew at least didn't have their team, lest the discussion turn around and hit one of them. You have to realize self preservation comes before the preservation of the entire scum team.

Tbh i think this is just really blatantly wrong. There was plenty of 'discussion'. There was no chance to have any more 'discussion' - we were literally *hours away from the deadline*. And there's nothing there that separates black from any of the other wagons. They have no reason to care if it's black or someone else - the situation is the same either way. This speculation about 'wagons' just seems utterly useless. I guess you thinking this makes me feel better about umlaut at least.

[Ausuka]

Y'all. I am at the lake. I do not care about this game as much I do about being on a boat with beers rn. Go ahead and lim me if you want, but keep an eye on who decided to wagons roll on someone V/LA. That's where I'm going to be looking anyway should I live when I get back.

I don't expect you to respond or really do anything about the wagon while you're on v/la but like I don't really see the problem with voting someone if you want to do it shrug

[Ausuka]

It was obvious in hindsight the way they vote hopped until a lim happened.

This, actually, strikes me as really fake, now that I'm thinking about it. Like, meuh doesn't really stand out to me amongst the other people around EoD for votehopping. And I can definitely see "Well obviously Meuh was scum at EoD 1 for *shitreason*" as a thing scum would post to make it look less likely they're the one who shot Meuh.

VOTE: Drew

I mean he said this before meuh flipped

[Invisibility]

VOTE: Merlyn slot is still meh

[Donempire]

My elim list, from most confident to least confident. Besides the blsck wagon aren't considered for now, i have some theories about osuka (specifically regarding bingle) and umlaut but i'll reveal them in another post.

Ausuka
Firebringer
Bingle
Merlyn
Drew
Rat

I think i should expand on my drew townread since its not a popular one. He was one of the few slots pressuring meuh during the end of the day, and i couldn't see a post wherein he townread sky, going off that i doubt he's the one to make a meuh kill.

He was also really essily pushed throughout the day, with pretty much everyone voicing their suspicions on him at some point. Some might say that him not being wagoned despite this is proof that there was resistance, to which i would say that his wagon was just as possible as a black wagon, and in fact without fb i would wager drew would have been the lim yesterday. That tells me that he's solo in his endeavour.

I also liked his black vote compared to other votes since he did so simply so there would be a lim like i did. Also not to claim i'm a meta expert on him but this doesn't feel like scum drew to me.

[Donempire]

VOTE: Merlyn slot is still meh

What do you think about an fb wagon?

[Invisibility]

VOTE: Merlyn slot is still meh

What do you think about an fb wagon?

I'm pretty sure FB is town. The abandoning the gimmick thing is whatever but I think FB not killing you makes him probably town. I was thinking like, a super tinfoily theory that FB could've thought you were mafia doing some sort of gimmick thing but now I think that's dumb

[Bingle]

Can someone tell me why this site keeps going down, 3rd time i was isoing someone and had to start again because the site went down for an hour

Mith made an announcement in the discord about the site's host having power outages, but they were supposedly solved. Dunno why it keeps happening.

[Donempire]

I see your point. Since it won't be possible to argue about what fb was thinking in his mind i won't, but i don't think he believed i was the ic. He probably suspected it, but not enough to stop scumreading me. Kind of the reason i revealed early was since i suspected fb could have copped me yesterday.

[Datisi]

vote count 2.06

with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-07-08 15:30:00).

yeet

Merlyn [5]:

Firebringer, Doctor Drew, Ausuka, Umlaut, Invisibility

Doctor Drew [2]:

Radical Rat, Bingle

Umlaut [1]:

sheepsaysmeep

Firebringer [1]:

Merlyn

Bingle [1]:

osuka

Ausuka [1]:

Donempire

not voting [0]:

mod notes

Umlaut is v/la until the 6th
this is a mod note.

flavour

[Datisi]

prodding Doctor Drew.

[Donempire]

Good god someone unvote merlyn please.

[osuka]

ill sheep you don

where do i vote here

[Donempire]

Ausuka seems fine for the time being, thank you osuka

[Firebringer]

sheeping an IC who has no clue what they are doing
who is this osuka because i don't recognize him

[Bingle]

Bottom 3 i townread all of them to some extent. If there are no scum in the top 3, i'd be down to lim outside of that list, probably only sheep though. I think this 4 is a guaranteed solve, but don't underestimate my ability to throw certain victory, right bingle?

Somehow I doubt you've convinced Dats to confirm you as town as a scum player.

[Ausuka]

UNVOTE:

[Bingle]

I think i should expand on my drew townread since its not a popular one. He was one of the few slots pressuring meuh during the end of the day, and i couldn't see a post wherein he townread sky, going off that i doubt he's the one to make a meuh kill.

He was also really essily pushed throughout the day, with pretty much everyone voicing their suspicions on him at some point. Some might say that him not being wagoned despite this is proof that there was resistance, to which i would say that his wagon was just as possible as a black wagon, and in fact without fb i would wager drew would have been the lim yesterday. That tells me that he's solo in his endeavour.

I also liked his black vote compared to other votes since he did so simply so there would be a lim like i did. Also not to claim i'm a meta expert on him but this doesn't feel like scum drew to me.

I think I'm missing something. Could you explain why you think those points make him town?

[Doctor Drew]

Sorry was busy in the whiskey pocket shooting off my finger, try to be more active shortly

[Radical Rat]

Sorry was busy in the whiskey pocket shooting off my finger, try to be more active shortly

I hope you finger is okay, despite being scum

[Doctor Drew]

Sorry was busy in the whiskey pocket shooting off my finger, try to be more active shortly

I hope you finger is okay, despite being scum

Lol, tis but a joke.

But if think I am scum then you need to rethink things.

[Merlyn]

Damn, I didn't even realize at was at e-1. look, I like my vote, I do wish I could bring more pressure to bear but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. If I'm on the chopping block for real I've told town where I think they should look first.

[sheepsaysmeep]

hm