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Post Post #2025 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:55 pm

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In post 1981, Invisibility wrote:
In post 1953, Radical Rat wrote: I think there's a solid possibility of this being TvT with Pooky just latching onto a hero solve and confbiasing his way into this hole, and an outside chance he's actually right and we're all being played for fools, but like.

If Datisi descended from the heavens and said one of them MUST be scum, gun to head I'd go for Pooky.

He's hyperfocusing on a specific aspect that I don't think actually aligns with the reality of the situation, and Bingle's defense pretty much matches my perception of events.

So here's my thing. A hypothetical sheep townflip forces me to reevaluate the game as I presently understand it, and in the event that I'm wrong, I want that opportunity to reevaluate. I don't want to be stuck with sheep in ELo, and ESPECIALLY not both sheep and Drew.

If this Bingle/Pooky 1v1 absolutely MUST be resolved today, I will vote for Pooky. But I won't follow through onto Bingle until after I have an answer on sheep.

I will alternatively move to Drew, who is tied into my sheep read and would also be a place I looked for a partner if I knew that I were wrong about Bingle, so it would serve to either win, or provide context that actually helps me solve after.

Unfortunately, either Pooky or Bingle flipping green... leaves me in the exact same spot I'm at now. It just wastes a day eliminating a townread, just like we did yesterday with osuka, and I don't want to do that again.

So.

VOTE: Doctor Drew
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In post 1964, Merlyn wrote: Ugh, fine. Better this than no lim VOTE: Bingle

it would be legendary if Pooky is right
Why did you switch when we already had a hammer lined up for Drew?
what if the scummteam is Merlyn/Drew lol and that's why RR died? And also the vote switch they noted was rather odd yes. They would be in a somewhat decent pizza state since limming Pooky today seemed like the forgone conclusion if Bingle flipped town. I'll iso them later
I didn't notice the RR vote, I just saw the votecount on top on thought we were about to run out of time. I do recognize how it looks lol. I would like to think that as scum I would be a bit less obvious than that.
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Post Post #2026 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:57 pm

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In post 1980, sheepsaysmeep wrote: I will probably assume firebringer town

like

it's not that he couldnt be scum, but it's the one ISO ive done and he's so much
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villagery than everyone else that it feels fair enough to just work with never voting him
I don't love that you just did so much work and then gave firebringer a pass bc...you didn't want to be unfair to him I guess? He also is definitely not more villagery than everyone else, like he has definitely NOT been what I would call a universal townread. I think you might be either a) skimming over your partner or b) been a little pocketed here.
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Post Post #2027 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:12 pm

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In post 2026, Merlyn wrote:
In post 1980, sheepsaysmeep wrote: I will probably assume firebringer town

like

it's not that he couldnt be scum, but it's the one ISO ive done and he's so much
more
villagery than everyone else that it feels fair enough to just work with never voting him
I don't love that you just did so much work and then gave firebringer a pass bc...you didn't want to be unfair to him I guess? He also is definitely not more villagery than everyone else, like he has definitely NOT been what I would call a universal townread. I think you might be either a) skimming over your partner or b) been a little pocketed here.
It was that I had already studied him yesterday and concluded he was strongly town

But now that I did much more than expected it probably makes sense to re-look at him
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Post Post #2028 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:13 pm

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In post 2026, Merlyn wrote: I don't love that you just did so much work and then gave firebringer a pass bc...you didn't want to be unfair to him I guess? He also is definitely not more villagery than everyone else, like he has definitely NOT been what I would call a universal townread. I think you might be either a) skimming over your partner or b) been a little pocketed here.
can you be more fence sitting with your positions here.
its fine not to call me a townread
but u both are trying to diffuse a townread on someone without giving adequate reason why you think im scum
and also at same time fence sitting on sheep and my relation by calling us possible team members.

Like god this is terrible.
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Post Post #2029 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:17 pm

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the simplest fucking answer to this game is actually Meryln and Drew and I want both these two to fucking case each other and tell me their position on the other.

Cause they look sus as fuck together right now where im standing.
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Post Post #2030 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:18 pm

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okay

VOTE: Doctor Drew
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Post Post #2031 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:19 pm

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In post 1950, Datisi wrote: Doctor Drew [3]: Firebringer, Merlyn, Invisibility
Bingle [3]: PookyTheMagicalBear, sheepsaysmeep, Ausuka
PookyTheMagicalBear [2]: Bingle, Doctor Drew
sheepsaysmeep [1]: Radical Rat

not voting [0]:
Vote count yesterday right before votes piled on to end it.
The two who piled on with little explanation or reason were both Drew (fine he was playing survival) and then Meryln. The meryln one i thought was the sus one.
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Post Post #2032 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:20 pm

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pooky/invis/sheep are all town. Not arguing anyone of them

So team has be in Ausuka/Drew/Meryln
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Post Post #2033 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:28 pm

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In post 2030, camelCasedSnivy wrote: okay

VOTE: Doctor Drew
How do you possibly vote me over Merlyn?
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Post Post #2034 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:51 pm

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In post 2028, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2026, Merlyn wrote: I don't love that you just did so much work and then gave firebringer a pass bc...you didn't want to be unfair to him I guess? He also is definitely not more villagery than everyone else, like he has definitely NOT been what I would call a universal townread. I think you might be either a) skimming over your partner or b) been a little pocketed here.
can you be more fence sitting with your positions here.
its fine not to call me a townread
but u both are trying to diffuse a townread on someone without giving adequate reason why you think im scum
and also at same time fence sitting on sheep and my relation by calling us possible team members.

Like god this is terrible.
It's mafia, fence sitting is kind of thing here

I was actually pointing out that they hadn't given adequate reason to think you're town. There is a difference you know.

I hate to point this out to you, but you are in fact possible team members. Like, it would be foolish of me not to consider everybody.
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Post Post #2035 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:55 pm

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In post 2029, Firebringer wrote: the simplest fucking answer to this game is actually Meryln and Drew and I want both these two to fucking case each other and tell me their position on the other.

Cause they look sus as fuck together right now where im standing.
Sir, yes sir! I voted Drew yesterday, and I'm down to vote him today. In fact I'm down for folks to vote me today, I just want folks to take a closer look at you afterwards because I just have this feeling that this is stomping around is a bit of theater on your part.

VOTE: firebringer Gonna put my money where my mouth is.
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Post Post #2036 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:55 pm

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then make the case we are teammates
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Post Post #2037 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:56 pm

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In post 2033, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2030, camelCasedSnivy wrote: okay

VOTE: Doctor Drew
How do you possibly vote me over Merlyn?
This feels a bit like a southern belle gasping and fanning herself here, Drew. Is it really a stretch that someone would find you sus? If I hadn't messed up you would have been limmed yesterday.
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Post Post #2038 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:56 pm

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In post 2035, Merlyn wrote:
In post 2029, Firebringer wrote: the simplest fucking answer to this game is actually Meryln and Drew and I want both these two to fucking case each other and tell me their position on the other.

Cause they look sus as fuck together right now where im standing.
Sir, yes sir! I voted Drew yesterday, and I'm down to vote him today. In fact I'm down for folks to vote me today, I just want folks to take a closer look at you afterwards because I just have this feeling that this is stomping around is a bit of theater on your part.

VOTE: firebringer Gonna put my money where my mouth is.
No, I want you to case him. Not just say you are willing to vote him.

Give me your case on him.

Do it.
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Post Post #2039 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:56 pm

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In post 2033, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2030, camelCasedSnivy wrote: okay

VOTE: Doctor Drew
How do you possibly vote me over Merlyn?
In post 2023, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 2022, Invisibility wrote:
In post 2021, camelCasedSnivy wrote: both pooky and drew pulled the sacrifice myself card so I think it could be one of them? conveniently mafia are lovers so we could just aim elsewhere with the one miscondemn
why would that necessarily make it one of them?
both of them appear to be doing it for towncred so I think it
should
be at least one of the two
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Post Post #2040 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:00 pm

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In post 2038, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2035, Merlyn wrote:
In post 2029, Firebringer wrote: the simplest fucking answer to this game is actually Meryln and Drew and I want both these two to fucking case each other and tell me their position on the other.

Cause they look sus as fuck together right now where im standing.
Sir, yes sir! I voted Drew yesterday, and I'm down to vote him today. In fact I'm down for folks to vote me today, I just want folks to take a closer look at you afterwards because I just have this feeling that this is stomping around is a bit of theater on your part.

VOTE: firebringer Gonna put my money where my mouth is.
No, I want you to case him. Not just say you are willing to vote him.

Give me your case on him.

Do it.
This is exactly what I mean by theater. You're gonna order me to do something right this minute or....I dunno, you'll vote me? Show up at my house with a baseball bat?

Let's be real here. I can't make a case on Drew that will change your mind about me. You know that. I know that. Just vote the way you want and chill a bit.
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Post Post #2041 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:01 pm

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You are so god damn annoying.
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Post Post #2042 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:02 pm

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GEOORGEEEE BAILEY.
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Post Post #2043 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:04 pm

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Thats copyright infringement
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Post Post #2044 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:09 pm

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In post 2043, Firebringer wrote: Thats copyright infringement
Lol I'm sorry
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Post Post #2045 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:11 pm

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Hey drew, want to explain ur meryln scumread for the rest of the class.
Ur classmate meryln doesn't want to explain hers on u.
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Post Post #2046 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:15 pm

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In post 2045, Firebringer wrote: Hey drew, want to explain ur meryln scumread for the rest of the class.
Ur classmate meryln doesn't want to explain hers on u.
I mean that hammer amirite.

But overall has been the epitome of 'hey I am here' without actually doing anything.

Plus outside of Umlaut/Pooky, I just can't see anyone else.

Maybe sheep? But their effort they put in today would be impressive from scum.
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Post Post #2047 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:38 pm

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I thought for a moment “one of drew/merlyn is scum who is trying to look w/w with the other to frame them” but then I realized this makes literally 0 sense at all in this setup and even if they weren’t w/w it would benefit the wolf to not look w/w
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Post Post #2048 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:45 pm

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I am fine to hammer somebody tbh

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Post Post #2049 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:22 pm

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