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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:09 am

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heipizhu4 (4): Save The Dragons, Infinity 324, UNOwen, Morning Tweet
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:22 am

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There was some confusion relating to a post I made in the Normal Idea Mafia thread.
In post 148, Alianna wrote:
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I'm referring to , , and . I only intend to use the first 100 posts for this run.
I never made it explicit in the Setup Information post, so I will clarify now that this was an earlier plan that I did not end up following. This game's setup was rolled using the entire 150-post deck.
That's all.
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:24 am

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In post 149, Alianna wrote:
humaneatingmonkey replaces Merlyn.
In post 151, Alianna wrote:
Moderator Announcement


There was some confusion relating to a post I made in the Normal Idea Mafia thread.
In post 148, Alianna wrote:
Serial Killer Rolecop 3-Shot Commuter



I'm referring to , , and . I only intend to use the first 100 posts for this run.
I never made it explicit in the Setup Information post, so I will clarify now that this was an earlier plan that I did not end up following. This game's setup was rolled using the entire 150-post deck.
That's all.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:35 am

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Actually no nvm the timing on that would imply that monkey is sk since it was too close together to have read through the entire role list so if our angleshooting is correct they looked up parts of their role. If they were groupscum that would have probably popped up earlier

rn don't really care about sk that much

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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:42 am

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hi python, can you explain your townreads on infinity and std
can you also walk me through your biancospino scumread i couldn't understand
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:44 am

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you look almost town except i couldn't quite agree with a lot of your reads, so you could be just very good scum! what's your mafia experience
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:45 am

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In post 154, humaneatingmonkey wrote: hi python, can you explain your townreads on infinity and std
mindmeld
In post 154, humaneatingmonkey wrote: can you also walk me through your biancospino scumread i couldn't understand
feels like tmi'ing on heip's slot, what parts of
In post 128, usesPython wrote:
In post 126, biancospino wrote:
In post 119, usesPython wrote: Like all of biancos town!heip theories are like alternate explanation stuff that'd come to mind if you start from the position that heip is town and then run the mindset from there
Lol. I'd like to hear what those "theories" of mine might be.
Beside just not accepting that heip's tmi'ing
which, yknow, the onus is really on you on that as far as I'm concerned, you are the one with the claim
That's the entire reason we're calling you scum here:

The town perspective:
  • I don't know heip's alignment
  • heip's complaining about getting wagoned but also not voting or pushing or interacting with anyone on his wagon
  • therefore it's reasonable to assume heip thinks his wagon is pure
  • therefore the people pushing him could be town
The scum perspective:
  • I know heip is town
  • heip's complaining about getting wagoned but also not voting or pushing or interacting with anyone on his wagon
  • since heip is town that means he thinks the wagon is NAI
  • therefore I can counterwagon the people pushing him for towncred
are you having trouble with?
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:46 am

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In post 155, humaneatingmonkey wrote: you look almost town except i couldn't quite agree with a lot of your reads, so you could be just very good scum! what's your mafia experience
like a bunch of town games, 2 newbie games were we replaced in as scum (1 win/1 loss), and 1 multiball scum game where we replaced out d1
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:49 am

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comprehension. can you explain it in some other way? you voted him on #106 so I'm mainly interested in what inspired the vote
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:02 am

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In post 158, humaneatingmonkey wrote: comprehension. can you explain it in some other way? you voted him on #106 so I'm mainly interested in what inspired the vote
The vote was like 50% just gut telling us "somethings up", it's only after that it really became a solidified scumread

Basically we think there's a difference between "No you're wrong" and "No you're wrong + vote" in since while the first implies
  • heip's complaining about getting wagoned but also not voting or pushing or interacting with anyone on his wagon
  • bianco doesn't think he thinks the wagon is pure but can see how town could come to that conclusion
the second implies
  • heip's complaining about getting wagoned but also not voting or pushing or interacting with anyone on his wagon
  • bianco doesn't think he thinks the wagon is pure and doesn't see how town could come to that conclusion
which doesn't seem like a real thought town has and instead seems better explained with the informed mindset of
  • heip's complaining about getting wagoned but also not voting or pushing or interacting with anyone on his wagon
  • since heip is town that means he thinks the wagon is NAI
  • yep, it's pocketing time
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:09 am

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In post 152, usesPython wrote:
In post 149, Alianna wrote:
humaneatingmonkey replaces Merlyn.
In post 151, Alianna wrote:
Moderator Announcement


There was some confusion relating to a post I made in the Normal Idea Mafia thread.
In post 148, Alianna wrote:
Serial Killer Rolecop 3-Shot Commuter



I'm referring to , , and . I only intend to use the first 100 posts for this run.
I never made it explicit in the Setup Information post, so I will clarify now that this was an earlier plan that I did not end up following. This game's setup was rolled using the entire 150-post deck.
That's all.
sus

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oh that is pretty bad ngl

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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:13 am

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In post 159, usesPython wrote:
In post 158, humaneatingmonkey wrote: comprehension. can you explain it in some other way? you voted him on #106 so I'm mainly interested in what inspired the vote
The vote was like 50% just gut telling us "somethings up", it's only after that it really became a solidified scumread

Basically we think there's a difference between "No you're wrong" and "No you're wrong + vote" in since while the first implies
  • heip's complaining about getting wagoned but also not voting or pushing or interacting with anyone on his wagon
  • bianco doesn't think he thinks the wagon is pure but can see how town could come to that conclusion
the second implies
  • heip's complaining about getting wagoned but also not voting or pushing or interacting with anyone on his wagon
  • bianco doesn't think he thinks the wagon is pure and doesn't see how town could come to that conclusion
which doesn't seem like a real thought town has and instead seems better explained with the informed mindset of
  • heip's complaining about getting wagoned but also not voting or pushing or interacting with anyone on his wagon
  • since heip is town that means he thinks the wagon is NAI
  • yep, it's pocketing time
after
Like bianco's heip read by itself isn't
that
+scum, it's the read + counterwagon that pushes it over the edge cause of what it implies about the underlying thoughts
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:56 am

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In post 152, usesPython wrote:
In post 149, Alianna wrote:
humaneatingmonkey replaces Merlyn.
In post 151, Alianna wrote:
Moderator Announcement


There was some confusion relating to a post I made in the Normal Idea Mafia thread.
In post 148, Alianna wrote:
Serial Killer Rolecop 3-Shot Commuter



I'm referring to , , and . I only intend to use the first 100 posts for this run.
I never made it explicit in the Setup Information post, so I will clarify now that this was an earlier plan that I did not end up following. This game's setup was rolled using the entire 150-post deck.
That's all.
sus

VOTE: humaneatingmonkey
In post 153, usesPython wrote: Actually no nvm the timing on that would imply that monkey is sk since it was too close together to have read through the entire role list so if our angleshooting is correct they looked up parts of their role. If they were groupscum that would have probably popped up earlier

rn don't really care about sk that much

VOTE: Invis post
Like this is just a trash argument thou. Borderline only works if we think our mod royally screwed up

I'm going to boldly assume there's no way Alianna posts that announcment, linking to a specific role post in the NIM thread, in rensponse to a player with that role asking questions, and especially not such a player like HEM that would already be in the spotlight for being replaced. Like, no way she's going to modspew stuff that hard
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 11:02 am

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VOTE: heip
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 11:04 am

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In post 162, biancospino wrote: Like this is just a trash argument thou. Borderline only works if we think our mod royally screwed up

I'm going to boldly assume there's no way Alianna posts that announcment, linking to a specific role post in the NIM thread, in rensponse to a player with that role asking questions, and especially not such a player like HEM that would already be in the spotlight for being replaced. Like, no way she's going to modspew stuff that hard
In post 151, Alianna wrote:
Moderator Announcement


There was some confusion relating to a post I made in the Normal Idea Mafia thread.
In post 148, Alianna wrote:
Serial Killer Rolecop 3-Shot Commuter



I'm referring to , , and . I only intend to use the first 100 posts for this run.
I never made it explicit in the Setup Information post, so I will clarify now that this was an earlier plan that I did not end up following. This game's setup was rolled using the entire 150-post deck.
That's all.
Emphasis ours. We're not saying HEM is exactly
Serial Killer Rolecop 3-Shot Commuter
, we're saying that if our angleshooting is correct and HEM is scum they can Rolecop or Commute and that it doesn't make sense for them to be groupscum since that would have come up earlier when Merlyn was looking up her role
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 11:11 am

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VOTE: bianco

I feel like bianco probably flips scum here and that her flipping scum just straight up clears the heip slot
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 11:16 am

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In post 164, usesPython wrote: Emphasis ours. We're not saying HEM is exactly
Serial Killer Rolecop 3-Shot Commuter
, we're saying that if our angleshooting is correct and HEM is scum they can Rolecop or Commute and that it doesn't make sense for them to be groupscum since that would have come up earlier when Merlyn was looking up her role
Eh, ok I guess, whatever. Still don't like to try to guess thing out of what would still be a mod fuck up. I think you have the emphasis one the wrong thing thou ;) I guess you wanted to emphasize "part of" in 153 idk
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 11:16 am

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In post 165, usesPython wrote: VOTE: bianco

I feel like bianco probably flips scum here and that her flipping scum just straight up clears the heip slot
Yes, we know, you said that yesterday already
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 11:18 am

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In post 167, biancospino wrote:
In post 165, usesPython wrote: VOTE: bianco

I feel like bianco probably flips scum here and that her flipping scum just straight up clears the heip slot
Yes, we know, you said that yesterday already
We should say that tomorrow too
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 1:51 pm

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I don't know why I'm not hyperposting either
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 2:01 pm

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In post 162, biancospino wrote:
In post 152, usesPython wrote:
In post 149, Alianna wrote:
humaneatingmonkey replaces Merlyn.
In post 151, Alianna wrote:
Moderator Announcement


There was some confusion relating to a post I made in the Normal Idea Mafia thread.
In post 148, Alianna wrote:
Serial Killer Rolecop 3-Shot Commuter



I'm referring to , , and . I only intend to use the first 100 posts for this run.
I never made it explicit in the Setup Information post, so I will clarify now that this was an earlier plan that I did not end up following. This game's setup was rolled using the entire 150-post deck.
That's all.
sus

VOTE: humaneatingmonkey
In post 153, usesPython wrote: Actually no nvm the timing on that would imply that monkey is sk since it was too close together to have read through the entire role list so if our angleshooting is correct they looked up parts of their role. If they were groupscum that would have probably popped up earlier

rn don't really care about sk that much

VOTE: Invis post
Like this is just a trash argument thou. Borderline only works if we think our mod royally screwed up

I'm going to boldly assume there's no way Alianna posts that announcment, linking to a specific role post in the NIM thread, in rensponse to a player with that role asking questions, and especially not such a player like HEM that would already be in the spotlight for being replaced. Like, no way she's going to modspew stuff that hard
this is probably a fair assertion in a vacuum but like it feels like tunneling here. It feels weirdly combatative (how do you spell that word)* but I think it's coming from a mindset of finding the evil boogeymonster and trying to find every opportunity to take them down

*so I've just discovered it's combative. Like it's three syllables. What. Did everyone else know this
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 2:02 pm

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In post 168, usesPython wrote:
In post 167, biancospino wrote:
In post 165, usesPython wrote: VOTE: bianco

I feel like bianco probably flips scum here and that her flipping scum just straight up clears the heip slot
Yes, we know, you said that yesterday already
We should say that tomorrow too
I always love a good Bianco wagon

VOTE: Bianco
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 2:03 pm

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In post 120, camelCasedSnivy wrote: still think std has a sizeable chance of flipping scum
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 2:11 pm

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invis trying to pivot guys
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???
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