I started typing that post before Cakez's post, but took an EMBARASSINGLY LONG time trying to remember/come up with the word advantageous. I kept landing on words that were similar, but not quite it.
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
In post 1242, SirCakez wrote:
I've already said I think one scum is in the VTs and one is in the not-VTs
I think there's a wide difference between VT/miller and VT/PR for team composition, though. The second option is much more likely imo
This sure is a advantageous position for a miller claim to push lol
This is for mechanical reasons... The reason I'm dismissing VT/miller is because it involves all PRs being town, not because I think millers have to be town. VT/miller is actually slightly more likely than VT/VT here.
I think PR/miller is more probable than VT/miller by a good margin, cause I think millers are closer to VTs than PRs in terms of their place in the setup. 1234 outlines this.
I think Pooky flips scum more than RH9 at this point, but I probably should give a closer look to his ISO. I just haven't been super rushed to re-examine him when I think Dunn is very scummy and GL is a decent lim in the miller/VT pool if that can't go through.
He thinks you could be a true claiming, scum-aligned, 1-shot doctor (in a game with no Vigilante) who used their 1 shot to protect the town tracker.
That is not what I've been saying.
I'm saying that Dunn is probably trueclaiming the 1-shot aspect if he is really a town doc.
Yeah this part from Luke/Dunn confused me, RH9 was pretty clearly saying that Dunn,
if town
, was being fully truthful (which also lines up with my perspective at this point)
fwiw, I understood what RH was saying, and was just being a silly goofy guy with that post.
I was thinking you probably were, but I figured it'd be confusing to single out Dunn there if I was just misreading the entire situation and you were actually being serious
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
In post 1260, Meuh wrote:
I was gonna say I don't recall Pooky doing anything town indicative recently, but I did like his posting a few pages back with Cakez
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
He thinks you could be a true claiming, scum-aligned, 1-shot doctor (in a game with no Vigilante) who used their 1 shot to protect the town tracker.
That is not what I've been saying.
I'm saying that Dunn is probably trueclaiming the 1-shot aspect if he is really a town doc.
Yeah this part from Luke/Dunn confused me, RH9 was pretty clearly saying that Dunn,
if town
, was being fully truthful (which also lines up with my perspective at this point)
Read the part before that. RB9 was saying that they don't think I gambit, so I pointed out that it was weird that they were considering me as mafia considering I was tracked to Luke.
In post 1206, Dunnstral wrote:
If you think that then it's weird that you are suspecting me after I got tracked to Lukewarm
I think you trueclaimed.
Your play makes only real sense if you really were 1-shot.
I can't tell if you are calling me town here, but if you are I feel like you were speculating that I may have been mafia earlier
Well. I felt like you could be scum, due to the fact that Cakez barely makes sense as scum with half of everybody but like you and Pooky.
And Pooky hasn't felt like scum to me, so reasonably this limits scum to you/GL/Cakez/Meuh.
However, I have been thinking that Cakez can actually be Town and I've been mindmelding with Meuh, leaving the scumpool to you/GL.
On the other hand, your play if town, makes more sense coming from a world where you trueclaimed than one where you're playing elaborate mindgames like Luke has been suggesting.
In post 1237, Meuh wrote:
One thing that sticks out in Cakez' favour here is that he was already implying being a PR that didn't visit last night before Dunn had claimed
As scum, he had no need to commit to claiming PR this early and could've waited to choose when his turn came to claim, but he was already directing himself towards that before even knowing who Luke had visited and this person's role. If scum Cakez softs PR and then Dunn claims something like full doc, he's forced to retract his soft or to claim a weak PR, and neither looks good.
This contrasts with Dunn who was forced into a position where he had to claim PR and then did so, self-admittedly being scared of another PR claiming and looking bad because of it. Cakez has backed down on this so it's less significant, but pushing the idea of scum existing in the PRs while deciding to soft PR himself as scum is pretty risky
imo Dunn handled the PR situation in the safest, most textbook way, while Cakez did it in a weird, risky way that doesn't seem like how scum would want to approach it
If you think I was forced into having to claim doctor as mafia, what mafia role do you think I have that targets Luke?
To expand on my point in 1266, it is weird to me that RH9 has an impression of me that I don't gambit, but does not seem to be considering that when thinking I could be mafia. I think that if RH9 is being truthful, they should look at Luke's track result on me and conclude that I am more likely town than not, because to them I would have to be gambitting to be mafia.
Now that I am thinking about this, they also very quickly jumped to saying I might fake claim beholder at the start of the day. Doesn't this also contradict their thinking here, since that would be a gambit?
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
the issue I have with meuh is that I've read her wrong like 11 times in a row and I'm kind of townreading her posting which makes her almost certain to be mafia but it could be my subconscious playing tricks on me in that it wants me to think I townread her to get me to scumread her and i'll be wrong for the twelfth time
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
In post 1237, Meuh wrote:
One thing that sticks out in Cakez' favour here is that he was already implying being a PR that didn't visit last night before Dunn had claimed
As scum, he had no need to commit to claiming PR this early and could've waited to choose when his turn came to claim, but he was already directing himself towards that before even knowing who Luke had visited and this person's role. If scum Cakez softs PR and then Dunn claims something like full doc, he's forced to retract his soft or to claim a weak PR, and neither looks good.
This contrasts with Dunn who was forced into a position where he had to claim PR and then did so, self-admittedly being scared of another PR claiming and looking bad because of it. Cakez has backed down on this so it's less significant, but pushing the idea of scum existing in the PRs while deciding to soft PR himself as scum is pretty risky
imo Dunn handled the PR situation in the safest, most textbook way, while Cakez did it in a weird, risky way that doesn't seem like how scum would want to approach it
If you think I was forced into having to claim doctor as mafia, what mafia role do you think I have that targets Luke?
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
