Open 883 - Swinger's Hall

[yessiree]

is yessire a villlager for wanting to go against no-elimination?

odd that that's like the only reason you're using to read me here

[yessiree]

is yessire a villlager for wanting to go against no-elimination?

I have no real idea.
I can see a townie who wants a lim to provide potential VCA.
I can also see scum who realises that Ari's strategy is bound to force scum into pairing in the swing phase while minimising the amount of scummy players to hide behind.
IMO, if they think Cakez/Klick could be aligned, wouldn't it be better to get them to pair together or force them to not get paired?
Because that way, both their SRs are dead in a single shot.

i didn't like ari's strategy because it allows people to simply tag along to a predetermined consensus on the lims instead of committing to voting for the lim. I think voting naturally tends to produce more meaningful content that can still be relevant in later days, even if the consensus is on the most scummy players right now

i see its merit, i just dont think its the move. i think this is one of those computer chess moves that is optimal if you play perfectly optimal, i dont think humans play perfectly optimal every move

not sure what you mean by minimizing the amount of scummy players to hide behind?

[Klick]

If you're scum you're currently playing town mindset pretty well

Going to work, see y'all later

VOTE: Doctor Drew

I kinda feel like drew has to be a wolf here lmao so I vibe w/ this ig?

Yeah Drew as scum makes sense here

This isn't even worthy of the yellow m&m.

I think history has proven neither of you know my scum game lol.

But I am not exactly town reading yessiree, so have at it.

I still agree with Ari's plan though.

I think it's questionable that there are several players who 'agree with Ari's plan' without any actual opinions

I also think it's questionable that apparently what people wanted from me earlier was evidence of actual thought (on page three) and those people are now not saying anything about the people who 'agree with Ari's plan' without any actual opinions

[yessiree]

Ydrasse your memory is probably accurate but is missing the context of me losing faith in the process of explaining my half-baked thoughts actually being effective at anything helpful

i mean i would find them helpful even if they were raw if you’re town

That might be true for you but I feel like I'd just get a bunch of question marks and votes from enough people in the game to make it not worth

i fail to see how this is coming from a town mindset?
you make assumptions about how you're going to be perceived by others, so you don't even try?
seems like you overextended, realized no one was biting on it, realized the heat was coming to you, so you cut offany further discussion before you dug yourself an even bigger hole. are you actually scum bro?

[yessiree]

cakez immediately coming to the defense of Klick just screams scum tactic strongarming the conflict and trying to take control of the narrative

i don't even have a take on klick right now, ftr and i'm down with ari's proposed plan to elim her and Klick

lol what? you don't have a take on klick, yet you are perfectly fine with calling out on aris for having similar content as Klick, but write off Klick as "page 1 rvs bs"
do u not see how this indirectly paints Klick in a better light despite him being more scummy imo in that back and forth

i could be biased here because i dont see how ari can be scum here, scum doesn't play with this level of needless aggression right out of the gate

[Klick]

Ydrasse your memory is probably accurate but is missing the context of me losing faith in the process of explaining my half-baked thoughts actually being effective at anything helpful

i mean i would find them helpful even if they were raw if you’re town

That might be true for you but I feel like I'd just get a bunch of question marks and votes from enough people in the game to make it not worth

i fail to see how this is coming from a town mindset?
you make assumptions about how you're going to be perceived by others, so you don't even try?
seems like you overextended, realized no one was biting on it, realized the heat was coming to you, so you cut offany further discussion before you dug yourself an even bigger hole. are you actually scum bro?

And yet your own assumptions about how town would have to play are clear in this post

[yessiree]

the difference being im using mine to try to discern alignment of another player, but u were using yours to guess how you are going to be perceived by others, this distinction is significant and imo alignment indicative in ur case

[Ausuka]

Also, woah.......Ausuka is defending me?

Wtf is going on so far in this game??

I didn't really defend you! And I said you were town early in friends and enemies

[Ausuka]

If you're scum you're currently playing town mindset pretty well

Going to work, see y'all later

VOTE: Doctor Drew

I kinda feel like drew has to be a wolf here lmao so I vibe w/ this ig?

Yeah Drew as scum makes sense here

This isn't even worthy of the yellow m&m.

I think history has proven neither of you know my scum game lol.

But I am not exactly town reading yessiree, so have at it.

I still agree with Ari's plan though.

I think it's questionable that there are several players who 'agree with Ari's plan' without any actual opinions

I also think it's questionable that apparently what people wanted from me earlier was evidence of actual thought (on page three) and those people are now not saying anything about the people who 'agree with Ari's plan' without any actual opinions

Idk I mean ari is like really good at mafia game. I want to let the game stew before we no eliminate though and if ari's read on you is the same after that shrug.

I think the issue with your early posting wasn't that you weren't thinking or whatever, you clearly were and it came off as disingenuous

[Klick]

the difference being im using mine to try to discern alignment of another player, but u were using yours to guess how you are going to be perceived by others, this distinction is significant and imo alignment indicative in ur case

Town can and should also care how they are perceived by others

Whether or not I care how I am perceived by others when I am town is something that is easy to verify

Or if you don't want to do the work there are people in this game that already have that knowledge

[Alisae]

boring game honestly

[Alisae]

is yessire a villlager for wanting to go against no-elimination?

odd that that's like the only reason you're using to read me here

ig i can technically say what the fuck are you talkin about you don't rly got much going on bro

[Alisae]

that is literally the most notable stance u had up to that point

[Infinity 324]

the difference being im using mine to try to discern alignment of another player, but u were using yours to guess how you are going to be perceived by others, this distinction is significant and imo alignment indicative in ur case

I think it is very silly to assume town would not do this

[yessiree]

the difference being im using mine to try to discern alignment of another player, but u were using yours to guess how you are going to be perceived by others, this distinction is significant and imo alignment indicative in ur case

Town can and should also care how they are perceived by others

Whether or not I care how I am perceived by others when I am town is something that is easy to verify

Or if you don't want to do the work there are people in this game that already have that knowledge

feels like you're turning this into a trust tell because you're saying you never do this as scum so it's wrong of me to read you this way
if not, then why do you have an issue with it?

or are you saying im not qualified to read me because im not well versed in your meta, in which case i wont play ball

[yessiree]

edit last sentence

or are you saying im not qualified to read

you

because im not well versed in your meta, in which case i wont play ball

[yessiree]

the difference being im using mine to try to discern alignment of another player, but u were using yours to guess how you are going to be perceived by others, this distinction is significant and imo alignment indicative in ur case

I think it is very silly to assume town would not do this

if i can get scum looking a lil silly, thats a price im willing to pay

[Klick]

feels like you're turning this into a trust tell because

you're saying you never do this as scum

so it's wrong of me to read you this way

Where in the world have I said this

[Klick]

boring game honestly

[Klick]

I don't agree to the repairing plan because I think Ydrasse-Ausuka and yessiree-Drew are both solid pairs to elim already

[Infinity 324]

why ausuka

[Klick]

Dude technology is ruining the entire world's minds.

But I need to come post in my Mafia game

[Klick]

why ausuka

I want to respond to this with 'why not ausuka' but that's me feeling grumpy talking and you don't actually deserve that response

Equally I just... don't really feel that Ausuka is towny at all. I'll give her a reread now but like I remember a few of her posts feeling decidedly milquetoast. I'll see if I can find what made me feel that way

[Klick]

I actually quite like Ausuka's Ali suspicion from an 'Ausuka could be town for this' perspective

[Infinity 324]

thats fair yeah. I mean that post was the most of what I got wrt her alignment and I liked and agreed with it so