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Post Post #2325 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:41 am

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In post 2322, Shrek wrote:
In post 1493, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Town

Random Nurse, Klazam, Flavor Leaf, the worst
Naerys, Psyche, Shrek, Save the Dragons, shaddowez, BBmolla, Doctor Drew
iamveryhappy, camelCasedSnivy, davesaz, bob3141, TemporalLich, pisskop
biancospino
-- idk/null tier
furtiveglance, Hu Tao, JacksonVirgo, ZZZX, Aisa
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Scum

I'm all caught up, AMA
like aside from the obvious 'hey look i have different reads' in a JV SR and the guy who's SRing you this is kinda nothing
??? This read list was made before Hu tao scumread me

I don't know if anyone was scumreading the aisa slot, not sure about furtive

People think I'm also suss for having the worst and random nurse so high lol
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Post Post #2326 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:43 am

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was i dropped on my head as a kid or are people mistakenly seeing the worst as towny
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Post Post #2327 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:44 am

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I don't remember why you scum read him tbh
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Post Post #2328 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:45 am

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its not a confident scumread and the only reason i voted him was because he wasn't doing anything (unaware of a vacation)

i STILL don't see why he's town however
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Post Post #2329 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:46 am

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In post 2325, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 2322, Shrek wrote:
In post 1493, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Town

Random Nurse, Klazam, Flavor Leaf, the worst
Naerys, Psyche, Shrek, Save the Dragons, shaddowez, BBmolla, Doctor Drew
iamveryhappy, camelCasedSnivy, davesaz, bob3141, TemporalLich, pisskop
biancospino
-- idk/null tier
furtiveglance, Hu Tao, JacksonVirgo, ZZZX, Aisa
Merlyn


Scum

I'm all caught up, AMA
like aside from the obvious 'hey look i have different reads' in a JV SR and the guy who's SRing you this is kinda nothing
??? This read list was made before Hu tao scumread me

I don't know if anyone was scumreading the aisa slot, not sure about furtive

People think I'm also suss for having the worst and random nurse so high lol
i was referring to furtive there but apparently neither of them were SRing you at the time. that's my bad on the reading comprehension
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Post Post #2330 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:47 am

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In post 2328, camelCasedSnivy wrote: its not a confident scumread and the only reason i voted him was because he wasn't doing anything (unaware of a vacation)

i STILL don't see why he's town however
I'm on phone now and can't link but near beginning of my iso
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Post Post #2331 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:53 am

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In post 2136, Hu Tao wrote: TL is probably town. Not sure though
His read/push on me was to sloppy to be scum lol

I dont think scum could of posted with a straight face that i had town read on you. And then equaly poor town read on you based on flawed belief that a scum me would mean a town you in a multiball game
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Post Post #2332 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:56 am

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In post 2317, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 2311, shaddowez wrote:
In post 2305, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Iavh is a short read. He ate'd a bit as he was getting voted and then faded back into the background when the wagon died off
Oh wow, yeah....that's definitely a policy lim at best. Then again, with how active some players have been others are getting ignored and scum could coast. We're more likely to hit town than scum today anyway so I'd be willing to move there just to get to D2, but there are definitely places I'd rather be.
I think showing no interest in the game unless you're getting run up is kind of scummy
Which is flawed assessment and just looks like shade. If we ignor the fact that happy has played this way as town before what makes you think in this case such activity would point towards them being scum. As by your own admission they are making no attempt to push a scum agenda
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Post Post #2333 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:58 am

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In post 2310, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
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quote="Cat Scratch Fever" post_id=13910539 time=1694632082 user_id=33903]
Hu Tao, I think you've been playing up the newbie card a little bit as a reason to hold back. It reminds me of Blood over Utopia where you were in the background because the mechanics confused you
In post 1819, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1797, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: I'm obviously going to be biased but I dislike that vote on me
Hu Tao is scumreading me for a gutread, but felt the need to qualify it by saying they can't explain it 3 times

That reads unnatural to me because gut reads are typically something that can't be explained anyway, so why feel the need to say that 3 times?
In post 1787, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1718, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: This is such an unusual game for me

Blood over utopia has done a number on some of y'all lol
For some reason
, I think you could be scum. It's a gut feeling, your posts don't seem genuine
for some reason
. But
I'm not sure why


VOTE: CatScratchFever
In post 2027, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Hu tao is so scummy lmao

Their scumread on me seems like starting from the conclusion and making things up after the fact
In post 2034, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1835, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1796, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1787, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1718, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: This is such an unusual game for me

Blood over utopia has done a number on some of y'all lol
For some reason, I think you could be scum. It's a gut feeling, your posts don't seem genuine for some reason. But I'm not sure why

VOTE: CatScratchFever
Which posts don't seem genuine? The one that was quoted here?
Just a few
Doesn't even bother quoting which ones

Really now
In post 2195, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 2134, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2027, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Hu tao is so scummy lmao

Their scumread on me seems like starting from the conclusion and making things up after the fact
Why can't I just be misguided town? The fact that you immediately think I'm scum is what's worse for you.
The reason why is in the second line of my post...
[/spoiler]my posts on Hu tao for easy reading
[/quote]


So is that all that has you scum read Hu Tao. Seems alittle ligth as i cant see you getting more than null read from such reads. As nothing you have pushed excludes hu tao from being town and simply scum reading you for those reasons
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Post Post #2334 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:11 am

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"No Sleep Till Brooklyn" by The Beastie Boys


Day 1 VC 11:

ZZZX (7): Naerys, the worst, Aisa, Flavor Leaf, TemporalLich, BBMolla, Random Nurse
Cat Scratch Fever (5): Hu Tao, furtiveglance, pisskop, Shrek, Klazam
camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, shaddowez
BBmolla (2): Psyche, camelCasedSnivy
Hu Tao (1): bob3141
JacksonVirgo (1): iamveryhappy
davesaz (1): Doctor Drew
Random Nurse (1): Save The Dragons
Psyche (1): JacksonVirgo
iamveryhappy (1): Cat Scratch Fever

Not voting (1): ZZZX

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to eliminate.

MOD NOTES: ZZZX is V/LA.
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Post Post #2335 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:24 am

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In post 2333, bob3141 wrote: So is that all that has you scum read Hu Tao. Seems alittle ligth as i cant see you getting more than null read from such reads. As nothing you have pushed excludes hu tao from being town and simply scum reading you for those reasons
is disingenuous because i have been considering them as possibly town. That's why I asked them to elaborate and give me the posts that pinged them in . When they just stonewalled me in response, I don't think that was a towny response.

Now look at Hu Tao and ask yourself if you think this is a genuine scumread:
In post 1787, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1718, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: This is such an unusual game for me

Blood over utopia has done a number on some of y'all lol
For some reason, I think you could be scum. It's a gut feeling, your posts don't seem genuine for some reason. But I'm not sure why

VOTE: CatScratchFever
In post 1835, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1796, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1787, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1718, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: This is such an unusual game for me

Blood over utopia has done a number on some of y'all lol
For some reason, I think you could be scum. It's a gut feeling, your posts don't seem genuine for some reason. But I'm not sure why

VOTE: CatScratchFever
Which posts don't seem genuine? The one that was quoted here?
Just a few
Do these posts look like someone who is open to re-evaluation or is genuinely curious about alignment?

To be clear, this is the basis for their scumread, but they also feel strongly enough about it to spend several posts canvassing for more votes on me (these are all before ):
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In post 1911, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1860, Flavor Leaf wrote: I'm probably just going to join on CSF if IAVH goes away and BBmolla gets bigger.
The more the merrier
In post 1946, Hu Tao wrote: Yes vote cat
In post 1978, Hu Tao wrote: More CSF votes. Ignore the noise


I find the timing of Hu Tao's vote on me in to be a bit suspect. Several people said they were scumleaning me (furtive, Flavor, JV, maybe others I can't really remember), so they knew they'd have some support for a lim on me regardless of how flimsy their reasons for it are.
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Post Post #2336 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:27 am

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In post 2332, bob3141 wrote: Which is flawed assessment and just looks like shade. If we ignor the fact that happy has played this way as town before what makes you think in this case such activity would point towards them being scum. As by your own admission they are making no attempt to push a scum agenda
he's not literally not doing anything. iavh voted some people when he himself was getting pushed, and is no longer doing anything about them now that pressure is no longer on him. The scum agenda is to not get limmed...
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Post Post #2337 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:28 am

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Or like, does he really scumread the people he's voting for if he's not trying to get them eliminated? Does that betray a town mindset?
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Post Post #2338 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:29 am

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CSF's latest posts have been towny

VOTE: Psyche

don't think a CSF wagon is a good idea, but that is only because CSF seems likely to be town
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Post Post #2339 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:31 am

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The feeling that I get from TL always ending up doing what I do is icky
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Post Post #2340 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:32 am

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psyche is a better wagon idea and is actually likely to end up flipping scum
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Post Post #2341 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:32 am

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thing is, we need to end D1 by like yesterday
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Post Post #2342 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:34 am

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This is
not in order of reads
but here is a brain dump mostly from memory.

Random Nurse - seems under performing for someone who was actively recruiting, would have to re-read for more than that
Flavor Leaf - would be strong town if it weren't multiball
pisskop - seems towny
Hu Tao - I get a feeling of shallowness, but don't know if that's AI in this situation
camelCasedSnivy - I had a scumread when I voted but don't think the reason still holds. would need to re-read
Doctor Drew - can't really remember much, which is moderately surprising
Save The Dragons - another that I can't remember much about, less surprising
Aisa - somewhat towny is the impression I remember, but would need to re-examine for motivations
Cat Scratch Fever - Play feels active, but perhaps selective. Will be a good one to look at more closely after flips
Naerys - haven't noticed them very much
Klazam - seems low effort, not very towny but not explicitly scummy
Psyche - not afraid to push a different direction from consensus
bob3141 - was vla for a big part, probably won't be fully engaged this day (though the posts which came while I was writing this are looking up)
iamveryhappy - hard for me to describe. maybe more reactive than proactive but I'd need to re-read
TemporalLich - fearful and appeasy. extremely self conscious. if town, would be an endgame liability
furtiveglance - probing questions and doesn't feel pressured when opinions are contrary to the group
ZZZX - quite reactionary, gets into arguments. could be "caught for wrong reasons syndrome" but I think personality conflicts are more likely reason.
the worst - was vla which limits material. very at ease which gives a very slight townlean
bbmolla - doesn't like d1 and not afraid to say it. can't sort for that reason
Shrek - has been intermittently active, doesn't stand out enough for a read
JacksonVirgo - would be strong town if it weren't multiball
shaddowez - I've seen posts but TBH did not pay enough attention to them
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Post Post #2343 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:36 am

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Wowzers what a way to like downgrade the read on me
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Post Post #2344 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:36 am

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and fl etc
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Post Post #2345 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:36 am

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But I like scanned roght for my name obviously
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Post Post #2346 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:38 am

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seriously idk why people scumread CSF
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Post Post #2347 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:40 am

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why psyche
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Post Post #2348 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:43 am

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psyche is consistently scummy and is not really townread by anyone

easy way to end the day with a scum flip
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Post Post #2349 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:44 am

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In post 2345, JacksonVirgo wrote: But I like scanned roght for my name obviously
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