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[Flavor Leaf]

also, it wouldnt be the first time I catch a group of multiple scum on Day 1, Psyche.

I caught 4 out of 6 scum Day 1 in TENET years back, and they put all their resources into getting rid of me.

[Psyche]

i know some people believe in advocate for policy lims all the time. i still think it's a scumtell on balance, and that BBM's push for it here is scummy. scum BBM would factor in his ability to "look up some meta" for us into his decision to play D1 this way.

Just like I asked Temp when they tried to do this,

You need to back this up.

Show me where Policy lim advocates have come from scum.

i've laid out at least twice here why i think it's scummy. the belief is not rooted in a meta dive, but in the reasoning i provided.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Hu tao is so scummy lmao

Their scumread on me seems like starting from the conclusion and making things up after the fact

[Psyche]

also, it wouldnt be the first time I catch a group of multiple scum on Day 1, Psyche.

I caught 4 out of 6 scum Day 1 in TENET years back, and they put all their resources into getting rid of me.

do you play a lot of mafia?

[Flavor Leaf]

I just...also think people overvalue killing town Day 1 as being way worse than it is

[Psyche]

pocketing me is not going to make me want to townread you, Psyche

how is it not obvious by this point that i don't care about your read on me

[BBmolla]

Psyche and ZZZx are missing from that readslist.

They moved out their partners to place them after they did everyone else, and forgot to place them.

Their reads list is entirely political.

TL is scum.

really doubt this one believes they've found an entire scumteam from one list of names.
alternative is that flavor can be driven by pure confirmation bias and wishful thinking.
must check if this thought pattern is consistent across the thread

i doubt you doubt it.

I said at the present, until something confirms that it is not true, TL has scum slipped their entire team by leaving exactly you and ZZZx out of it.

It helps I already believe ZZZx is scum, and I was already thinking you were defending TL a lot this game.

And TL doesn't do well under pressure, so I can def believe they were trying to politically place all the townies (or other team, they just dont know).

TL is scum because of how political their reads are.

The idea that you can find scumteams based on such scant evidence just doesn't pass any muster. It's silly. Maybe one benefit of limming TL is that you'd see how silly it is sooner rather than later.

It’s not that I can’t find scum

It’s that I can’t convince 12 people, 9 of which are probably inactive, to vote that player without a new wagon getting in the way

[Flavor Leaf]

i know some people believe in advocate for policy lims all the time. i still think it's a scumtell on balance, and that BBM's push for it here is scummy. scum BBM would factor in his ability to "look up some meta" for us into his decision to play D1 this way.

Just like I asked Temp when they tried to do this,

You need to back this up.

Show me where Policy lim advocates have come from scum.

i've laid out at least twice here why i think it's scummy. the belief is not rooted in a meta dive, but in the reasoning i provided.

Sure, but that's your own opinion.

I dont think scum advocate for Policy lims at all because it comes off as scummy, and we're not playing 4d chess enough site meta wide to advocate for scum to do that because it's not what scum do, it's still pushed as scummy.

It's just one of those things people think are scummy that actually come from town a hell of a lot more.

And I think you know this.

[Flavor Leaf]

Hu tao is so scummy lmao

Their scumread on me seems like starting from the conclusion and making things up after the fact

I love this actually.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

This is such an unusual game for me

Blood over utopia has done a number on some of y'all lol

For some reason, I think you could be scum. It's a gut feeling, your posts don't seem genuine for some reason. But I'm not sure why

VOTE: CatScratchFever

Which posts don't seem genuine? The one that was quoted here?

Just a few

Doesn't even bother quoting which ones

Really now

[Flavor Leaf]

also, it wouldnt be the first time I catch a group of multiple scum on Day 1, Psyche.

I caught 4 out of 6 scum Day 1 in TENET years back, and they put all their resources into getting rid of me.

do you play a lot of mafia?

Caught more scum and won more scum games than almost anyone in the history of this site. Sure, that's cuz I play a hell of a lot (second account here), and I have an extreme amount of face to face Mafia.

[BBmolla]

Psyche say what you want, the fact of the matter is the ending of today is gonna go in two ways:

1). We scramble in the final hours to wagon some player and they claim VT and die

2). We scramble in the final hours to wagon some player and they claim PR and we try to wagon someone else without a claim to prevent a NL

I’ll quote this once we get there

[Aisa]

Ok uhm here's some thoughts in the order they occur to me.

I'm not sure how to approach this game, feel like if I push a low-posting slot it's not guaranteed to reveal anything about the slot's alignment nor are there any low-posting slots where I'm like, confident they flip scum. But if I talk to active slots I'm just contributing to bloat and makes it hard to keep up

You seem genuine, I think you're town. Can you iso CSF and tell me if you think their posts seem authentic? For some reason they feel forced

I townread CSF based on her posting so far. I would say I am very taken in though not completely, maybe 3/4 of the way

Mind you, I've gotten her wrong before. And multiball is hard. But the last game I played with her, she was scum, and so far she looks significantly townier to me. (I just went back and checked this to make sure I'm not remembering wrong). Her posts here are denser and more analytical and when I imagine what a town!CSF would look like, I can't name how she would be different from here. I'd be pretty sorry to see her go today and would prefer almost any other name that has come up.

Here's some quick comments on why I don't think furtive's case is very compelling:

furtiveglance, Hu Tao, JacksonVirgo, ZZZX, Aisa

Merlyn

JV is in the bottom 5 slots here, out of 23 players. That's a scumread.

[...]

Does this look like a player talking to their scumread? It doesn't to me.

If I had to make a big readslist and put 5 slots in the bottom tier right now, none of them would be confident scumreads. I agree the piggybacking off JV's post to explain her read on someone is a little unusual but like... I can easily see it coming from someone who just wants to explain their read.

It started as just a feeling when you were questioning TL - I felt like TL was being weird town, and it seemed a bit like you were pushing him for his weird but not necessarily scummy stances.

Then [...]

This post was the kicker for me. [...] Nonsensical progressions, changing opinions to match FL, scum positioning around a TL lim. These are all serious charges! But then we just a get a 'south of null' conclusion. No vote, no suggestion of JV being a possible vote for CSF. Also, 'south of null' is far less severe than in the bottom 5 reads. So to me, it just looks like CSF wanted JV to see that she was scumreading/leaning them to get some town points and have a 'contrary' opinion.

If I come into a game and scumread a player who's widely townread, I'll go in quite hard and explain to other players why. Probably vote them as well. This treatment of JV just looks so weird to me.[...]

I've lost count of the times I've played with townies who have apparently nonsensical progressions. Idk none of these charges seem serious to me, they're all kinda speculative

Looks like this post ended up becoming a monograph on the cat, but that's ok with me!

[furtiveglance]

Hu tao is so scummy lmao

Their scumread on me seems like starting from the conclusion and making things up after the fact

They did vote you first...then you omgussed.

[TemporalLich]

that isn't a green check lol

pedit: yeah I wanna see Hu Tao elaborate on the fake CSF posts

[Flavor Leaf]

I wanna let CSF vs Hu Tao breathe some in future days, so I think we should consolidate elsewhere outside of them.

They were scum together recently too, and I think they both have merit to have saved possible IAMVH this game, along with Duck.

I'm gonna make a wild dart throw that I do not expect to be correct.


Way too early Teams Prediction:

IAMVH, The Worst, One of CSF/Hu Tao

Psyche, ZZZx, TemporalLich


I also dont care too much about preflip, but this is fun to do anyways.

[TemporalLich]

pedit: I meant red check... a green check is a clear

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Hu tao is so scummy lmao

Their scumread on me seems like starting from the conclusion and making things up after the fact

They did vote you first...then you omgussed.

Bruh I scumread Hu tao like when I replaced in

[TemporalLich]

do you still scumread hu tao after bob's joke post?

[Psyche]

I’ve always been a fan of policy elims d1 in large, fairly confident I’ve said this before, I think about Salamence20 in Marketplace Mafia 2/3

Policy eliminations shouldn't really be a thing. If a player breaks the rules, they should get modkilled. Otherwise, vote based on reads.

then let's rebrand

because killing someone who is possibly town, but if they are town are in a spot where they will lose the game for town, is a thing that should happen.

I've had a game where if I had vigged the IC like I wanted to, town would have won the game

possibly town! you think you've found an entire scumteam. if that's true, then maybe shifting from the policy lim polemics to getting the town on board about the whole scumteam you've found would a better use of your time at this point

This is semi impossible

At normal playercounts you do this via discussion, but discussing at this playercount leads to 200+ pages which leads to inactivity.

We’re all just going to putt around until deadline and we all jump on whatever wagon has 4-5 people on it so we can feasibly get a lim.

Day one lims are going to probably be town regardless so why not eliminate the most anti-town players and go to night

Hence why I believe in policy

galaxy brain fatalism about the possibility of sorting scum D1 but not about policy lims

but honestly there's no benefit to getting to the theoretical minutae here. i believe you think PLs are a good idea! i still think the way you've done it here is scummy

[Cat Scratch Fever]

do you still scumread hu tao after bob's joke post?

Idk what you're talking about yet, just got a ping that Hu tao responded to me

I'm just posting from work, will look later

[Psyche]

Psyche say what you want, the fact of the matter is the ending of today is gonna go in two ways:

1). We scramble in the final hours to wagon some player and they claim VT and die

2). We scramble in the final hours to wagon some player and they claim PR and we try to wagon someone else without a claim to prevent a NL

I’ll quote this once we get there

i just don't think this amounts to a reasonable justification for not trying to play the game
and further, i think acting like it is makes for a really convenient excuse for scum

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I always find in extra large games the goal is not to kill town but chain execute teh town vigs, that 53 player large still gives me shudders lol

holy scumslip

VOTE: bob3141

This?

I think he was referencing another game and not a scum slip

[Flavor Leaf]

Psyche is scumconf'd from TL until proven they're not, though.

82 page game and their only reads are hard defense of TL, scum read of BBm off one trivial thing like pushing for a Policy, and then their waffling on me aimlessly.

Why do they decide to get all hot and bothered now?

Simple. Scum with TL.

[TemporalLich]

This?

I think he was referencing another game and not a scum slip

yes that post is why Hu Tao is locktown