Mini Normal 2313: I am sitting in a room (game over)

[JacksonVirgo]

Only Town can be vengeful in a normal

[JacksonVirgo]

Yeah I don't see Wiz as a wolf either

[JacksonVirgo]

SAME. I was actually going to start today with a tinfoil theory of scum no killing n1. Okay. I really need to think this game out because something isn't right.

I was too lmfao

[JacksonVirgo]

pisskop you and JV are def masons?

Even if Hu Tao does turn out to be a traitor its still a pretty weird NK when there is 1 confirmed town and 1 claimed mason with them

Yes we're masons

[JacksonVirgo]

Gob has to give his result.

Pisskop can you 100% confirm that JV is Mason and not just neighbors.

Also is it possible Andante softed their result?

I'm also the Doctor

[JacksonVirgo]

if miller in titus role was actualy a universal miller than

my role has 2 false guilties and one false inno if there is a traior.

would also mean town would be to stacked for use to have more than 2 cops

Millers in normals only show red to a base Cop iirc

[JacksonVirgo]

There's a true PoE of 6 with three scum within.
Gob, Wiz, Bob, Merlyn, Hu Tao.

I'm not opposed to delve into the world where Bob and Hu Tao are both wolves for the sake of completion. As this is the final day if wrong

[JacksonVirgo]

Actually that's three in a pool of 5?

[JacksonVirgo]

if miller in titus role was actualy a universal miller than

my role has 2 false guilties and one false inno if there is a traior.

would also mean town would be to stacked for use to have more than 2 cops

Millers in normals only show red to a base Cop iirc

you can get tracker millers ect see wiki

the issue is how it would be displayed.

from wiki below

Some moderators take the "passive guilt" concept to the point where Millers also investigate unfavorably to other roles (e.g. Gunsmith); this can be given a name like Universal Miller, although just plain "Miller" is also seen. Alternatively, specialized Millers can be created specifically for investigative roles other than Cop; for example, a Track Miller would always be seen, by a Tracker, as targeting the player that the Mafia (or whatever the "main" anti-Town faction in that game is) had attempted to kill.

Yeah but this is a normal

[JacksonVirgo]

Gob has to give his result.

Pisskop can you 100% confirm that JV is Mason and not just neighbors.

Also is it possible Andante softed their result?

I'm also the Doctor

I wish you hid this sorry :cry:

I didn't really think... I was gonna claim it yesterday but y'all hammered

[JacksonVirgo]

We probably go Merlyn today

[JacksonVirgo]

We probably go Merlyn today

Merlyn being town would mean that fmpov all 3 cop claims are scum. And I don't think that makes sense. I agree that merlyn is likely scum but we need to figure out cop claims too today

Yeah that doesn't make too much sense you're right. Merlyn is literally the best we got aorn

[JacksonVirgo]

We probably go Merlyn today

merlin or gob should def be the ones on the block.

I dont think we should vote at all until were ready.

Hu Tao lands some good logic as to why we should go Merlyn

[JacksonVirgo]

pisskop/JV did you actualy protect black n1?

Yeah we did

[JacksonVirgo]

Why would we... lie about that Bob?

[JacksonVirgo]

I wanna find who the most likely partner of Hu Tao/Bob pairing would be if they were both together

[JacksonVirgo]

an announcement

Seeking a replacement for bob3141.

Wha

[JacksonVirgo]

With an additional PT (masons). A false positive and a false negative feels unlikely

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Gob owo

[JacksonVirgo]

I didn’t either

[JacksonVirgo]

Them going pisskop is very sad

[JacksonVirgo]

Nah everything else would have been better lol

[JacksonVirgo]

I have prediction that mafia were informed that babysitter are mason.

Sure, but it doesn’t really matter tbf

[JacksonVirgo]

That’d be a stupid thing to do, it wasn’t ever an option

[JacksonVirgo]

I mean from your perspective you should have a psuedo-confirmed wolf to vote

[JacksonVirgo]

Merlyn should be the vote regardless and then Im solving between you and wiz in which I’m leaning wiz. If it’s you and hu tao then you can win ngl

[JacksonVirgo]

Merlyn for the sake of otherwise Andante is the only investigative as a one shot with all the wolves claiming one shot too? Unlikely

[JacksonVirgo]

Them going pisskop is very sad

You're next :(

I know its not but I read this as a threat lmfao

[JacksonVirgo]

Merlyn for the sake of otherwise Andante is the only investigative as a one shot with all the wolves claiming one shot too? Unlikely

What does this mean, Jackson?

It means if you're Town.

Excluding the world where Hu Tao and Enchant are both wolves. It means that all three wolves are claiming 1-shot investigative roles. AND the only investigative role Town has is a role cop.

Do you think that's likely?

[JacksonVirgo]

we know that Gob claimed their role

Can you elaborate on this?

[JacksonVirgo]

I just don’t understand the pattern of NK targets—first it was Black, then Andante, then Black again, and then pisskop. Why specifically these people?

Wouldn’t killing pisskop earlier be the better option, especially N1 or N2 once there weren’t too many other opportunities? I would think the Innocent Child claiming protective would be ideal, and there has to be a reason to deviate from that expected outcome.

If they were informed of a Babysitter mason then it’s clear why Pisskop was avoided. Also it isn’t uncommon for ICs to live a while

[JacksonVirgo]

I still think Merlyn is the best elim target today, but I just… I don’t understand WHY these people, and I’d like to try to work that out first. If gob was a Babysitter-Finder, it’s logical to think that the claimed protective role who doesn’t say exactly which role they are would be a Babysitter, right?

Not sure what you’re saying I claimed doc yesterday and pisskop claimed babysitter and they died last night not sure what you are trying to say

[JacksonVirgo]

Yeah, I’m honestly not sure how Jackson guessed it was best to target Black, but I mean, hooray! Means we have 3:2 here instead of 2:2, so it ended up being really clutch for us.

Wasn’t me, it was my pred

[JacksonVirgo]

Uhhhh, well that was not a great kill for wolves

[JacksonVirgo]

Wiz why did you pick Enchant. Who cleared Hu Tao from main maf and traitors lose when alone. And I’m a mason

[JacksonVirgo]

Tbf even if you died today Jackson I was voting wiz regardless so it doesn't change much on my end.

Yeah I was throwing up protecting you or Enchant. Mainly cuz I doubt I get shot unless I’m wrong on Wiz.

[JacksonVirgo]

But holstered just to remove that wifom

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Wiz

If this is Town somehow, jfc

[JacksonVirgo]

mum come pick me up I’m scared

[JacksonVirgo]

wiz played really well considering, just that last kill was damning

[JacksonVirgo]

Im glad you holstered friend

Same but the action I would have done would have protected Enchant so like, it would have ended up well regardless

[JacksonVirgo]

Ah jeez, I took a nap and missed the final day—RIP my plan to try to pull a weird story out of thin air, but I don’t think it would’ve worked anyway. Still, this was super fun and I’m really happy I got to play with you all!

The town really had some amazing predictions and created a really strong core near the end there with the mechs and trust—super challenging and I really liked that! I felt like this was really great to learn from due to the difficulty.

Oh, also,

no redactions from me.

Nah so like I was confirmed Town, and Hu Tao was confirmed only mafia if they were Traitor (of which the game would have already ended) so you'd have to have argued Bob and Enchant both lied and continued the lie respectively which like no. Also you slipped knowing an Informed before they flipped

[JacksonVirgo]

You again did really well but near the end slipped up, which is natural people had pinned the scum-team pretty confidently which would be always difficult to bounce from

[JacksonVirgo]

But I respect you never gave up <3

[JacksonVirgo]

Almost got away with it in my mind cuz of the way you handled the informed as Town in the game where I was wolf with an informed buddy but the specifics were very different as you were basing that from another players reads as opposed to your own

[JacksonVirgo]

Wiz played the best out of all the wolves, should be proud of that. Gob saying you were throwing is a big ???, you did great.