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[Gamma Emerald]

Today has been a pretty shit day for me just in general fyi

be good <3

:concern:

[Gamma Emerald]

I think you meant “be well” which comes off very differently

[Eiralox]

I think you meant “be well” which comes off very differently

yah i mean i hope you're doing well

[Gamma Emerald]

Eiralox just filled the entirety of page 35 with a gradual descent into incomprehensibility
I’m impressed, most times I fill a page I end up in trouble (not complaining, only trying to be funny)
PEdit: thank you

[Eiralox]

Creepy Celeb Encounter: You're going to die but maybe you'll live if you don't try too hard

this is a direct lie btw and a good example of KeyLaga's lazy push strat on Eira

I know u wanna play but the more dangerous u become the more utility your role has.
Sure scum takes our inno but they miss prs. And if we got a watcher or adjacent role...

Eira is saying exactly the opposite: If Celebloki tries hard today/gets a good elim and dies tonight that's +town.
The other two scenarios being:
1. Celebloki doesn't try hard but still dies n1, less use
2.Celebloki doesn't try hard and scum keep him alive till near the end. worst case scenario.

I'm cautioning everyone to think very carefully here
Don't get lost in the sauce because this game is moving 2 fast.

[Random Nurse]

I'm here, I promise! Currently working a stretch of 5 shifts and 11/9's the last one!

[Random Nurse]

VOTE: Unvote

So for the people who haven't been around because they're stuck at work why are people voting Eiralox?

[Eiralox]

hmm actually there's a world where Laga might be town but im not sure im ready for that reality

[KittyTacky]

I have a hard time playing D1, cause I never know really how to read people on D1. But looking back on D1 during later days is usually how things start to make sense. When people refuse to play D1 you lose that for better or worse. Sure, I might get protected, but rolling IC makes me feel like this is my only chance to play this game.

I play better when there's a flip or a claim or anything else mechanical to push off of. Which is why d1 is usually lackluster for me. But here there's mech stuff so I don't feel as lost as I would normally be.

[KittyTacky]

My opinion on Khaos hasn't changed but maybe I'm just reluctant to push baby scummers.

[KittyTacky]

Like for the same reason I don't usually vote NM day 1 if he's in a game. Basically random chance. We can do better than random.

[Eiralox]

main thing with key is i got feels dat dey know im town
it's clear they know some ppls meta (flavor interactions, admitted it)
voting me as 'Eira' and not 'Eiralox' at beginning ill place as NAI but it made me wonder
in that initial push, that first vote, when i warned laaga, idk i dont think i sensed town faith in that vote

the argument can be made that as a vt Laga is pressing buttons ofc
but idk
with the elements vote i kinda felt an agenda as well tbh
like
not town mentality
this is talking vaguely rn but im not 100% on them either way yet. but im convincing myself they scum so *shrug*

the eira pushes so far just havent felt like it fully comes from town tho
hopping on after the heat came
the pairing of eira/bingle/elements
that sus feeling from key when they said they retracting their elements push
whether elements flips scum or town that should be looked back on

it's like openly hedging for the likliest elim
interactions with flavor maybe didnt feel right
not sure what town gets from being so openly personal so early

idk

theres a world where everything key is doing is honest sorting but i can't ignore the feeling of opportunism
it's like
would scum openly play like this?
maybe. maybe.

ill give it time

[Eiralox]

btw this push on me talking to celebloki or trying to influence celebloki
not sure if it only came from Keylaga dont recall

but it's horrible by the by

if i wanna hash things out with a player and try get a scum elim at the end of day i'm gonna be talking with celebloki

deal with it

[Naerys]

Naerys otoh, feels like an opportunistic pile on to someone who is getting a bunch of heat and refusing to engage over it. I'm also not a huge fan of the major uptick in activity right after I called out for people who hadn't done much of anything to receive scrutiny.

Nope. I find Eira´s posts to be suspicious. Its certainly deserving of putting some pressure on Eira. Everyone deserves scrutiny. How else am i to figure who is town and who is scum, if not from their reactions? I dislike D1 too, but thats not a reason for not trying to sort people out.

[Eiralox]

Naerys otoh, feels like an opportunistic pile on to someone who is getting a bunch of heat and refusing to engage over it. I'm also not a huge fan of the major uptick in activity right after I called out for people who hadn't done much of anything to receive scrutiny.

Nope. I find Eira´s posts to be suspicious. Its certainly deserving of putting some pressure on Eira. Everyone deserves scrutiny. How else am i to figure who is town and who is scum, if not from their reactions? I dislike D1 too, but thats not a reason for not trying to sort people out.

you're just sorting me
not touching all my spam
starting to think Bingle is 100% right on u

[Naerys]

Naerys otoh, feels like an opportunistic pile on to someone who is getting a bunch of heat and refusing to engage over it. I'm also not a huge fan of the major uptick in activity right after I called out for people who hadn't done much of anything to receive scrutiny.

Nope. I find Eira´s posts to be suspicious. Its certainly deserving of putting some pressure on Eira. Everyone deserves scrutiny. How else am i to figure who is town and who is scum, if not from their reactions? I dislike D1 too, but thats not a reason for not trying to sort people out.

you're just sorting me
not touching all my spam
starting to think Bingle is 100% right on u

I dont understand. Of course i am trying to sort people. You and Elements belong to the suspicious group. Then there is null group, where are mainly people i would like to hear more from - Nurse, OutWorldER,Khaos.Also Binge is there, they are pretty hard for me to read.
As town i have Gamma, Celebloki,Kitty.
Chell,Drew and Laga i have yet to sort. Their time will come.

[Elements]

VOTE: Naerys

[Naerys]

VOTE: Naerys

Reasons?

[Doctor Drew]

Eira here feels almost exactly like Eira town in TLich's GIdea, where they caught me on a bunch of completely wrong reasons and unflipped associatives with people who weren't my scummates (RH9 and Rat). Chell's push on Eira feels exactly like my push on Eira, but here's the kicker: I think that makes her town. I was absolutely convinced that Eira was scum there largely for all the same reasons Chell has discussed because it was multiball and I was genuinely looking for scum.

Naerys otoh, feels like an opportunistic pile on to someone who is getting a bunch of heat and refusing to engage over it. I'm also not a huge fan of the major uptick in activity right after I called out for people who hadn't done much of anything to receive scrutiny.

Is this the only experience with them? Not that I am calling your read of them into question per se, but I would to see their scum game as well

VOTE: Eira

see i'm still wondering what prompted u to vote cos ur a person who can talk to me
and give reasons
i just seez vote

VOTE: Naerys

I'll sheep bingle.

I think im onboard for a laga elim regardless of alignment.
Need to actually read outworlder iso

I think im onboard for a laga elim regardless of alignment.
Need to actually read outworlder iso

Policy elim are meh.

I'm scumreading laga more than ever before so meh

Can you explain to me if you are scum reading someone as much as Laga why are you even mentioning a policy lim on them?

Like if you legit think they are scum, and for whatever reason you think they should be a policy lim(also why did you believe they should be?), then make every effort to get them limmed.

This feels like a bit of TMI, like you will hide behind mentioning a policy lim when they flip town.

I gotta check the VC.

Maybe you missed my post

[Eiralox]

Maybe you missed my post

i did
ok basic argument from your side

like your tone but have no response to this. if you have other reasons throw them at me if not your vote your choice

[Eiralox]

also why did you believe they should be?

oh this bit ill answer.

key felt 100% VT when i made those posts
back then mindset was okay yeah vts die day ones like almost always so
no one loves no elims expect me and geraintm
so key good compromise because of their method on me, see that play being a liability down the line
i've destroyed enough towns as VT to see the signs

right now my read on KeyLaga is pretty meh... i'll vote them but im starting to think if scum i wanna keep em around cos they're a spewer

[Eiralox]

Naerys otoh, feels like an opportunistic pile on to someone who is getting a bunch of heat and refusing to engage over it. I'm also not a huge fan of the major uptick in activity right after I called out for people who hadn't done much of anything to receive scrutiny.

Nope. I find Eira´s posts to be suspicious. Its certainly deserving of putting some pressure on Eira. Everyone deserves scrutiny. How else am i to figure who is town and who is scum, if not from their reactions? I dislike D1 too, but thats not a reason for not trying to sort people out.

you're just sorting me
not touching all my spam
starting to think Bingle is 100% right on u

I dont understand. Of course i am trying to sort people. You and Elements belong to the suspicious group. Then there is null group, where are mainly people i would like to hear more from - Nurse, OutWorldER,Khaos.Also Binge is there, they are pretty hard for me to read.
As town i have Gamma, Celebloki,Kitty.
Chell,Drew and Laga i have yet to sort. Their time will come.

hmmmmm fair...... fair.

any thoughts on elements and KeyLaga interactions?

[KittyTacky]

I don't like no lims, they're coarse and rough and irritating and they get everywhere.

...and I often flounder if there's no flip to go off of, even if a VT dies it's a worthy sacrifice to have something to VCA from.

[biancospino]

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