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[Eiralox]

the scummiest thing khaos has said so far is that chell is bussing me, sounds like a straight out of push

[Eiralox]

*straight out of pt

anyone who doesn't see the logic me and elements have been kind enough to share on key, just look at how they're talking, to who, and how. Right now they're running up to towns and shooting down anyone who wants to vote elswhere

[Eiralox]

I'm starting to believe, outside of KeyLaga spam, that the wagons are so static because we're running up scum.

It's not me.
I don't think Elements is scum? No... That VT claim....
Naerys.

She's hanging back and hoping for the best in a game that allows scum to do that.

[Eiralox]

Honestly, I'm kinda fine with any of the current wagons and just think we need a flip.

I have to ask. Does this mean you think my wagon and Elements' are 'fine'?
If you do can you please tell me why? That's the thing with spam games communication breaks down.

[Eiralox]

btw I can see Elements being scum with Naerys based purely on their voting patterns
but 10 times out 10 I'm voting KeyLaga before I vote Elements

[Eiralox]

I think i also mentioned elements x laga theatre at some point but after elements' recent input and feeling of genuine frustration

lagaxnaerys
elementsxnaerys

far likelier.

scum teams consisting of a mix of naerys, gamma, drew, khaos, key, with chell and outworlder as distancing outliers, and kitty as feeling town but capable of having an agenda, with someone like key for instance, are where my main pre-flip associative are cycling right now.


I'm willing to hammer Elements I guess but it's a dumb wagon and I sincerely hope town rethink their positions here.
The flip with the most utility we have is KeyLaga, it's the kind of flip that wins town the game.
In my eyes it's the optimal play here.

But I'm okay with hitting scum on Naerys. She really hasn't tried to appear otherwise.

[Eiralox]

i wouldn't dismiss khaos x chell either but khaos x gamma might be likelier

drew's tone felt off af recently so as i said before: pressure there.

[Elements]

VOTE: Naerys

[Eiralox]

the reaction, the feeling i got from the thread, when elements and i conversed on gamma x keylaga x naerys
and when i straight up asked key

idk

didn't like it

[Eiralox]

Honestly, I'm kinda fine with any of the current wagons and just think we need a flip.

Calm down, we have over 5 days until deadline. Let me share the 25 year Glenlivet I had tonight with you so you can chill.

Also, I so strongly believe this is so obv town Ele, or the most blatant open wolfing I have ever seen.

Either way I am here for it and can't see myself voting for them today.

this is the exact thing scum might say btw if they already got a vannila claim out of elements and hope they can force more town claims

[Elements]

Well done! Glad to see your thoughts. Your effort is appreciated

This is likely a scum statement

I felt similarly

[Eiralox]

in fact i'm becoming more certain that's exactly what it is
notice that drew still hedges on elements in black and white terms, either obv town or obv scum
and there's no analysis
nor any on my wagon after Drew's ultra-generic and mono-topic initial vote on me
This is Drew telling us Elements is town but future limbait
Drew wants better targets

Also, I so strongly believe this is so obv town Ele, or the most blatant open wolfing I have ever seen.

Only Sith deal in absolutes.

[Eiralox]

Well done! Glad to see your thoughts. Your effort is appreciated

This is likely a scum statement

I felt similarly

yeah i got really weird vibes from the casual, friendly but analysis-less reactions to Khaos's list.

[Bingle]

Honestly, I'm kinda fine with any of the current wagons and just think we need a flip.

I have to ask. Does this mean you think my wagon and Elements' are 'fine'?
If you do can you please tell me why? That's the thing with spam games communication breaks down.

Yes, I think all three wagons are fine. Any of the three are high information lims and I think town will actually be in a pretty good place to solve regardless of which lim goes through.

I think Naerys has the best chance of flipping scum, but d1 isn’t really about finding scum so much as it is making it so scum can be found on later days.

[Bingle]

Only Sith deal in absolutes.

No, I’m pretty sure absolut is Russian, not sith. Also Drew is a whiskey man, I don’t think he’s especially prone to vodkas.

[Bingle]

Honestly, I'm kinda fine with any of the current wagons and just think we need a flip.

Calm down, we have over 5 days until deadline. Let me share the 25 year Glenlivet I had tonight with you so you can chill.

Also, I so strongly believe this is so obv town Ele, or the most blatant open wolfing I have ever seen.

Either way I am here for it and can't see myself voting for them today.

What do you want out of today that hasn’t been accomplished? The only thing I could see is shoring up khaos and rn reads, but I think we’re at that time when it’s just not going to do much talking in circles without a flip.

[Naerys]

Honestly, I'm kinda fine with any of the current wagons and just think we need a flip.

I suggest you get Naerys to claim then. She might have already softed mailman anyway.

!!!!! I got ousted what kind of town does that?

[Naerys]

Well done! Glad to see your thoughts. Your effort is appreciated

This is likely a scum statement

I was trying to cheer up a newbie. Using this as AI is not ethical

[Naerys]

Okay there is no way hiding this anymore. I am

mailman

Eira-Bingle- elements likely contains scum
I thank you you dimwitts for forcing me to claim, honestly

[Eiralox]

Honestly, I'm kinda fine with any of the current wagons and just think we need a flip.

I suggest you get Naerys to claim then. She might have already softed mailman anyway.

!!!!! I got ousted what kind of town does that?

Naeyrs, you're smart.

You have to know that deadlocked wagons for town aren't good on day one.

And Elements has really shown town colours.

So in my eyes you have three options:

1. Vote on someone who's scum. I'm not.
2. Vote KeyLaga to increase town win chances.
3. Claim and hope people shift to Elements

I trust Elements' VT claim
Scum Elements doesn't benefit from that
Not on day one

[Naerys]

You forced me to claim and then attempted to SR me for being nice to a newbie. I am not moving from your wagon.

[Eiralox]

Okay there is no way hiding this anymore. I am

mailman

Eira-Bingle- elements likely contains scum
I thank you you dimwitts for forcing me to claim, honestly

I'm okay limming this. Obvious soft obvious.

Don't know whether it's +town, I've been a scum mailman before. But between Elements and Naerys I choose Naerys unless Naerys or someone else gives me a better option.

[Eiralox]

You forced me to claim and then attempted to SR me for being nice to a newbie. I am not moving from your wagon.

you're not even at e-2 much less e-1

ok so not moving.

your choice

@Elements: U okay with staying on a mailman?

[Naerys]

Again. You forced me to claim. You ousted my soft.

[Eiralox]

You forced me to claim

So in my eyes you have three options:

1. Vote on someone who's scum. I'm not.
2. Vote KeyLaga to increase town win chances.
3. Claim and hope people shift to Elements