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[usesPython]

Wiz's strong scumread on Hu Tao before the claim looks pretty bad

[usesPython]

I'm a doctor

If you're claiming you might as well fullclaim

I'm a doctor what else is there to claim?

Target cause you're claim isn't a mech clear even with the lack of nightkill

We're literally saying that a doctor claim after a no kill isn't a mech clear and asking for a fullclaim, how is that not an obvious soft

I read that as you thinking Hu Tao was lying but I didn’t think you were trying to soft something. That makes sense now though

This feels like he knows both Hu Tao and Python are town cause the first instinct is to assume the claim is real and that we thought you were lying

[usesPython]

Enchant, Roden are fine. I don't feel like ISOing so why's OWER TRing Hu Tao again?

[Enchant]

You should stop pretending you are solving if your scumreads are players hates by majority of game.

[usesPython]

Smiley and Shea are fine, THS has that slimey feel with how he's approaching this

[usesPython]

You should stop pretending you are solving if your scumreads are players hates by majority of game.

Who is SRing Wiz and Blackstar

[usesPython]

THS too

[Enchant]

I don't get how your head works. Fine for what?

[usesPython]

I don't get how your head works. Fine for what?

We're solving under the assumption of a town!Hu Tao world cause we got asked

and fine as in not scum

[usesPython]

Enchant, Roden are fine. I don't feel like ISOing so why's OWER TRing Hu Tao again?

Oh it's 575/581, yeah that's pretty bad

[Enchant]

I don't get how your head works. Fine for what?

We're solving under the assumption of a town!Hu Tao world cause we got asked

and fine as in not scum

One of main important things is clearity. I not always follow it myself but still.

Keep it short and clear, i though it's "fine to elim".

[usesPython]

Why not? I can be very convincing as scum.

We're townlean'd or better by like over half the playerlist, the only person who was TRing you before the claim was like Naerys. You straight up do not win a cc battle there after getting cc'd by a Doctor/Jailkeeper claim

When it comes to counter claims it doesn't always depend on what happened before but during, either way silly conversation. If I magically was revealed town who do you think is scum?

Probably a team with some combination of OWER/THS/BlackStar in it

[Naerys]

I wanted reactions but I forgot there was no night kill so could bring the wrong reaction.

VOTE: Hu Tao

[Naerys]

E-2 btw

[Enchant]

VOTE: Hu Tao

E-1.

[TheHoldSteady]

VOTE: Hu Tao

The defense is too on the nose for me. Sorry.

[AnimatedWiz]

Okay, back from my day off of MafiaScum and it seems like stuff got weird after I left. I’ve never seen anyone retract a claim like that without it just being something like adding/removing a modifier, so I literally do not know why someone would do that (not that it’s a bad move, I just literally cannot predict the reasoning).

Roden trying to push the kill through like that seems like he’s trying to save his own behind by throwing Hu Tao to the sword—this could be conf bias, though, since it’s just vibes. After all, I’m still good with Hu Tao going since they haven’t actually shared the reads they say they generated from the claim reaction (apparently I’m not a scumread for them now).

P.Edit: Oh, didn’t see the E-1. I hope we’re right.

[Enchant]

[AnimatedWiz]

VOTE: Hu Tao

The defense is too on the nose for me. Sorry.

What do you mean by this? This idiom always confuses me.

[TheHoldSteady]

VOTE: Hu Tao

The defense is too on the nose for me. Sorry.

What do you mean by this? This idiom always confuses me.

It seemed...too convenient. Agreeing with me that Outworld is scum and that's why she wants to vote him and claiming "to get reactions". I just didn't get town vibes from it at all. Like you said, hopefully it's right.

[AnimatedWiz]

It seemed...too convenient. Agreeing with me that Outworld is scum and that's why she wants to vote him and claiming "to get reactions". I just didn't get town vibes from it at all. Like you said, hopefully it's right.

Hm… she had already posted her scumread of OWER before your post… but never actually gave reasoning for it beyond perhaps 1379. I can see why it’s suspicious to see a new push like that from her—not much visible build-up on reads.

[AnimatedWiz]

Means we have to fill in the dots and assume stuff that might not be the case.

Which leads me to asking, if you’re still here with us, Hu Tao, that you shared your thoughts one last time to help us figure stuff out. Scum or townie, either works.

[TheHoldSteady]

I don't know. Town fake claimed Doctor in this very same game day one. It's not the gotcha Python and Roden are making it out to be.

[AnimatedWiz]

I don't know. Town fake claimed Doctor in this very same game day one. It's not the gotcha Python and Roden are making it out to be.

I… literally don’t remember this? Wartortle claimed Vanilla Cop at first, so I don’t know who you could be talking about?

[AnimatedWiz]

Okay, double-checked, and not single use of “Doctor,” “Doc,” or “protective” was said before D2’s lack of nightkill. If you’re saying someone claimed that role in D1, it’s gotta be some kind of softclaim.