Mini Normal 2316 | Halloween | Endgame

[Black]

Okay so i wanted to reread some people ISO, but the claims happened and that gives us something to work with. Also i am tired,first day after 14 days in work.
JOAT/ bodyguard claims are sus. One of these will be scum.
BlackStar/OWER/Enchant looks like a possible scum team.

Like if Naerys truly believes that one of THS/BS is scum then why would she want to vote for a VT all the sudden?

[Enchant]

What do you think happened last night, Naerys?

From an external perspective the only mechanical explanations for the missing nightkill are:

1. scum!BlackStar attacks town!Python, fails due to town!Smiley Jailkeep
   
2. scum!Python attacks someone, fails due to town!Smiley Jailkeep
   
3. Scum holster (Doesn't explain why scum would holster on evens)
   
4. Ninja attacks town!Python (Would be weird to have a Ninja just to counter 2-Shot Watcher and 1-Shot Tracker, especially since those are towns only investigative roles)
   
5. Scum attacks town!Python and scum!Black lies about watcher results (Would be weird to have 1-Shot Tracker be towns only investigative role)
   
6. town!Enchant is secretly a PR and stopped the nightkill and also kept quiet for some reason (Good one)

6 expluded, i would speak.

[Black]

Smiley mentioned waiting to fade until we plan out night actions. Do we think that's a good idea? I feel like it gives the Mafia more information but I want to hear what people smarter than me think

[BlackStar]

Okay so i wanted to reread some people ISO, but the claims happened and that gives us something to work with. Also i am tired,first day after 14 days in work.
JOAT/ bodyguard claims are sus. One of these will be scum.
BlackStar/OWER/Enchant looks like a possible scum team.

Like if Naerys truly believes that one of THS/BS is scum then why would she want to vote for a VT all the sudden?

I saw that as evidence that she knows I’ll flip town

[usesPython]

Smiley mentioned waiting to fade until we plan out night actions. Do we think that's a good idea? I feel like it gives the Mafia more information but I want to hear what people smarter than me think

The only night actions still in play are a JOAT Doctor shot and a Lazy Jailkeeper, what is there to plan out?

[Black]

Good point

VOTE: BlackStar

[usesPython]

Cool cool

VOTE: BlackStar

[Black]

Python do you have a read on Naerys

[BlackStar]

[usesPython]

Python do you have a read on Naerys

Did it look like BlackStar lim was inevitable to you? Cause to us it did and I don't really see the point of stepping off the bus to be the first person to suggest pushing a VT today

[usesPython]

Like her play would make sense in a Ninja game so that this fight gets delayed just long enough to basically mechanically lock the game for scum by forcing this to be resolved during ELO but Ninja game mechanically doesn't make that much sense to us

[Naerys]

Hunting between PRs and trying to guess who lied or not seemed less and less like a good idea to me. So yeah i suggested going after VT. Its easier to hide there for a scum, atleast in my opinion.

[Black]

If BlackStar is town and we leave him alive then Mafia have to kill him or risk more kills getting blocked right?

[usesPython]

If BlackStar is town and we leave him alive then Mafia have to kill him or risk more kills getting blocked right?

Bodyguard still dies when stopping a kill so the only way he'd die in that scenario is if he successfully blocked a kill

[Black]

Okay so i wanted to reread some people ISO, but the claims happened and that gives us something to work with. Also i am tired,first day after 14 days in work.
JOAT/ bodyguard claims are sus. One of these will be scum.
BlackStar/OWER/Enchant looks like a possible scum team.

Like if Naerys truly believes that one of THS/BS is scum then why would she want to vote for a VT all the sudden?

I saw that as evidence that she knows I’ll flip town

Meh. Maybe I'm overthinking it. This post just made me think we could be getting played

[BlackStar]

Okay so i wanted to reread some people ISO, but the claims happened and that gives us something to work with. Also i am tired,first day after 14 days in work.
JOAT/ bodyguard claims are sus. One of these will be scum.
BlackStar/OWER/Enchant looks like a possible scum team.

Like if Naerys truly believes that one of THS/BS is scum then why would she want to vote for a VT all the sudden?

I saw that as evidence that she knows I’ll flip town

Meh. Maybe I'm overthinking it. This post just made me think we could be getting played

If you’re town then you’re getting played by Python. If I’m understanding things correctly then the only possibilities for the lack of a night kill last night are that Python was jailed scum, scum chose not to kill anyone, or there’s an unclaimed doctor who saved someone else

[BlackStar]

Which of those sound the most likely?

[usesPython]

From an external perspective the only mechanical explanations for the missing nightkill are:

1. scum!BlackStar attacks town!Python, fails due to town!Smiley Jailkeep
   
2. scum!Python attacks someone, fails due to town!Smiley Jailkeep
   
3. Scum holster (Doesn't explain why scum would holster on evens)
   
4. Ninja attacks town!Python (Would be weird to have a Ninja just to counter 2-Shot Watcher and 1-Shot Tracker, especially since those are towns only investigative roles)
   
5. Scum attacks town!Python and scum!Black lies about watcher results (Would be weird to have 1-Shot Tracker be towns only investigative role)
   
6. town!Enchant is secretly a PR and stopped the nightkill and also kept quiet for some reason (Good one)

[Black]

I could see a python/Naerys/x team where x is like OWER or Roden if you flip town but I can't help but feel like it's just a tin foil read

[BlackStar]

What were all the night actions for N1 again?

[usesPython]

Black - Macho 2-shot Watcher
N1: Annie. No one.
N2: Python. Smiley, BlackStar.

Smiley - Lazy JK
N1: THS.
N2: Python

Naerys - VT
Annie - VT
Enchant - ???
Roden - VT
THS - JOAT (Vig/Tracker/Doc)
N1: Vig (Thestatusquo). Fail.
N2: Track (OWER). No result.
OWER - VT
BlackStar - BG
N1: Thestatusquo
N2: usesPython

Thestatusquo - VT
Python - 1-shot BP

[Black]

Unless Black has a guilty result, I don't have a problem getting voted out today. The PoE is too small for scum to win at this point.

What was the point of posting this? You weren't even being considered for the chopping block

[AnimatedWiz]

Python do you have a read on Naerys

Did it look like BlackStar lim was inevitable to you? Cause to us it did and I don't really see the point of stepping off the bus to be the first person to suggest pushing a VT today

I would like to clarify that Naerys isn’t the first one to suggest going after a VT today—that was me in 1770 and 1788.

[AnimatedWiz]

My currently scumteam is Roden/OWER/BlackStar, and in that order.

[usesPython]

My currently scumteam is Roden/OWER/BlackStar, and in that order.

I don't get why Roden is so high on that list