I remember thinking they looked fairly townie interacting with and pushing Hu Tao's wagon on D2, but I'd have to go back and actually read in-depth because again, I was mostly inactive that part of the day dealing with college preparations and holdover stuff from leaving my job.In post 1898, Black wrote:Your last stated read on Python was a scumlean. What is your current read on them?In post 1894, OutWorldER wrote: Also, I never stated an SR on Python D2, I was focused on Roden that day and inactive during most of the Hu Tao wagon, so I mostly just didn't pay attention to what they were doing.
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Let me just say I don't think Python is partnered with either Outworld or Blackstar. So two others besides them.In post 1810, SmileyDude1 wrote:
I would say that Python matched that description before the end of yesterday yes. It's weird, because in my view Python was probs one of the less suspected players before the Hu Tao push, though I think the green flip likely would've resulted in the slot being more suspected. If I had to postulate, i'd say they felt like they're somewhere in the middle in regards to suspicion.In post 1807, TheHoldSteady wrote:
Let me ask you this: at the end of gamestate yesterday, would you have considered Python to be a deep scum? Or at the very least, a slot with little suspicion on them? Because that's the best argument, at least thinking more mechanically, that Python would be town; deeper scum generally don't put themselves out there to be found by town PRs. I tracked Outworld specifically because they were closer to being eliminated and thus were more likely to show up on pr reports.In post 1802, SmileyDude1 wrote:
Would like some additional input on this though. You guys seeing what I see here?In post 1801, SmileyDude1 wrote: -SNIP-
Out of usesPython/Blackstar, I feel like usesPython are more likely to be town here. Looking back at yesterday, I struggle to see scum in usesPython's position electing to commit a BP claim in order to power through a Hu Tao Mislim there (Keep in mind they fullclaimed after Hu Tao retracted the doctor claim. If they were trying to save OWER they could've just pushed Hu Tao's retraction without claiming anything there). I also am skeptical of the idea that a team with scum!Python on it has Python perform the kill given the slot was a major contributor to pushing the mislim through and thus might be more likely to draw the eye of town power roles (would say i'm more confident on this second point then the first one).
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Why can't python/OWER be a thing hereIn post 1906, TheHoldSteady wrote: Let me just say I don't think Python is partnered with either Outworld or Blackstar. So two others besides them.-
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They wouldn't need to bus, honestly. Just keep pushing the mislims and have town keep hopping along. They pushed mislims the past two days, so clearly if they're scum, its working.-
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I think THS is saying we're bussing OWER, not that OWER is bussing usIn post 1909, Black wrote: How are python/OWER bussing each other?Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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In post 1863, Black wrote: UNVOTE:
I think there's an argument to be made that BlackStar will either be a NK target or he'll die by protecting someone. If neither of those things happen then it should be safe to fade him closer to ELO
I think the better play is to fade python first, or Roden/Naerys if we want to try to go for a VT
Actually I don't get this, Python/Blackstar is a 1f1 but you leave Blackstar for later cause you think he can confirm himself if he's real but then flip us today anyways? Like that automatically resolves this fight I don't get your logic for going for us hereIn post 1865, Black wrote: If I assume BlackStar is town then I think the most likely scenario here is that Smiley blocked python from making the NK
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I don't really consider you saying "OWER isn't a bad lim" as bussing and I don't understand why saying this means you can't be pairedIn post 1910, usesPython wrote:
I think THS is saying we're bussing OWER, not that OWER is bussing usIn post 1909, Black wrote: How are python/OWER bussing each other?
I think Smiley might have stopped your night kill. If you flip town I wouldn't be opposed to flipping BS nextIn post 1911, usesPython wrote:In post 1863, Black wrote: UNVOTE:
I think there's an argument to be made that BlackStar will either be a NK target or he'll die by protecting someone. If neither of those things happen then it should be safe to fade him closer to ELO
I think the better play is to fade python first, or Roden/Naerys if we want to try to go for a VT
Actually I don't get this, Python/Blackstar is a 1f1 but you leave Blackstar for later cause you think he can confirm himself if he's real but then flip us today anyways? Like that automatically resolves this fight I don't get your logic for going for us hereIn post 1865, Black wrote: If I assume BlackStar is town then I think the most likely scenario here is that Smiley blocked python from making the NK
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wdym "wouldn't be opposed" it's literally a 1f1In post 1913, Black wrote: I think Smiley might have stopped your night kill. If you flip town I wouldn't be opposed to flipping BS nextPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Black explain to me in your own words the mech in play here cause I think you're running under some misunderstandingsPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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I don't know but if your immediate reaction to us flipping town isn't "ok time to have a red Blackstar flip" then there's gotta be somethingIn post 1916, Black wrote: What do you think I'm misunderstanding?Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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I'll trust your mech here if you flip town-
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I mean that works too but if you're flipping us on faulty mech we'd rather skip that part and go straight to a red flipIn post 1918, Black wrote: I'll trust your mech here if you flip townPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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No that part's possible from your point of you, it's more the question of why you think it's likelier than BlackStar shooting usIn post 1920, Black wrote: What's faulty about thinking Smiley blocked your NK?Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Like scum have inherent multitasking and we know there's a missing night action so that'd mean we'd have to not be the blocker but also did the kill for some reason instead of loading up all the actions on one person?Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Well I started to feel sus of your BP claim. It feels like it would be a good claim for you for a couple reasons if you're scum here
One, you get to use it to try and fade Hu Tao. And two it makes it so you're less likely to be targeted by a role that could interfere with you making the NK, like the JK
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Macho implies the existence of a Doctor though, not a Jailkeeper. Think we mentioned that D2 as well which would be before the massclaim. As scum here we'd be focusing more on investigative roles like Watcher/Tracker over Jailkeeper and for that I don't get why we wouldn't just have the blocker double up on actions and let us deepwolf to victoryIn post 1923, Black wrote: Well I started to feel sus of your BP claim. It feels like it would be a good claim for you for a couple reasons if you're scum here
One, you get to use it to try and fade Hu Tao. And two it makes it so you're less likely to be targeted by a role that could interfere with you making the NK, like the JK
If you're scum here then you made the NK assuming no JK would possibly target the BP, and it backfiredPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more
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