BooneyToonz XVIII: Lights, Faeries, Action! [END]

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VOTE: KittyTacky

(I CC jester)

[KittyTacky]

DAYVIG: SOMETHING COOL

FOR GREAT JUSTICE!

DAYBLOCKER: Aureal

Nuh uh!

Also Kitty is a liar, the jester troupe consists of just me.

Gasp I'm outed!

[KittyTacky]

Fun fact. I thought I was 3rd party until I read the setup after getting my role pm

I thought I was groupscum lol. Like I knew there were group jesters and I thought purple was the jesters.

[KittyTacky]

Even leaving aside TOS and mafia.gg (ok jester is pink not purple in tos but you get what I meant) it's a very purple role.

[KittyTacky]

Is there night kills in this?

Nvm I forgot they don't

Ok chill with the townslips you're making me doubt myself

Probably wise. Hu can definitely fake cluelessness as scum.

Yeah I remember scum Hu and they're a very competent scum player. They're like FL where I'm kinda scared of them as town because I can't really read them.

[KittyTacky]

Also, can I bitch and moan a bit?

@Mod

How dare you not make me a Jester this game, I was built to be one......this game was made for me!

I'm jester in any game regardless of alignment or setup...

[KittyTacky]

This is a very colorful game.

[KittyTacky]

Ok so who do you scumread then?

idk probably a do-nothing slot like Kitty, not really focused on scumhunting that hard this game

-Python

Nothing happened yesterday that got my attention. That's all. It's Sunday and I finally dropped my relaxing meds because they were making me a sleepy bean so I should be active now.

[KittyTacky]

*looks at the start of Python's mech*

Wait a sec, I was assuming 2/7 but I guess that's not actually said anywhere is it? And actually the sample PM for the dark jester saying "You win if all Dark Jesters in your Troupe have been Enlightened, preventing the Level of Enlightenment from ever reaching 3" indicates there are 3 of them because math and lack of self-voting power.

It's specified in the flavor

However, a few of my Dark Jesters are among you, and if you choose to ENLIGHTEN

both of them

, then all your souls will be mine forever and all eternity.

it's just that the flavor is not mod guaranteed to be correct

32] The flavor text is for entertainment purposes only. Analyze it at your own risk.

-Python

...okay I am confused. ngl knowing the scumteam size is kinda important for my solving.

[KittyTacky]

Kitty is the first lucky contestant to have the chance to join my town core. I'm close to just locking him as town.

I'm not seeing it, what makes Kitty town?

-Python

I have purple in my role PM.

[KittyTacky]

I think Cool is town. Vibes. I don't think scum would tryhard like this so early.

Reads list coming later today.

[KittyTacky]

i'm more curious why people scumread SC

Who scumreads SC?

I thought i read something about them being scumread.

Scummy post. -town for Sakura.

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: Something Cool

Oh right we vote townie people this game. Muscle memory derp.

[KittyTacky]

Why Kitty?

After Hu Tao said she's confidently TRing him I did an ISO of him and I think he's nulltown.

I also think that mechanically it's more optimal to spare a nulltown on Day 1 than a top townread

UNLESS

we have reason to think that lowering enlightenment/increasing enlightenment has a mechanical effect beside advancing us toward wincon (EX: a town role that only works at 1+ enlightenment would make us want to spare a confident townread Day 1).

Pedit: I am also fine with doing Alianna. What's making you doubt your Hu Tao read?

I know this is modWIFOM but this seems like the kind of mod to make complex games so enlightenment definitely affects SOMETHING.

However! I just realized. To reduce swing and give negative feedback, what if enlightenment buffs evils?

UNVOTE:

WIFOM wifom...

[KittyTacky]

I think Cool is town. Vibes. I don't think scum would tryhard like this so early.

Reads list coming later today.

Uh... Ever play with usesPython before? This is almost low-key for them.

I don't actually remember uP actually. The name rings a bell but I may have gotten limmed d1 in whatever game we were in, or repped out.

[KittyTacky]

UNLESS

we have reason to think that lowering enlightenment/increasing enlightenment has a mechanical effect beside advancing us toward wincon (EX: a town role that only works at 1+ enlightenment would make us want to spare a confident townread Day 1).

I don't have a read on this outside of not seeing any mechanism to make this work other than gating Dark Jester factional abilities behind the LE

-Python

Actually yeah this is correct more likely evils get buffed by enlightenment.

[KittyTacky]

Not sure why you think I in particular should have an opinion here

I just felt I didn't really have much content from you, you popped in so I used the opportunity to ask you a question, then I just continued to nag you about it because I like getting my questions answered lol.

you seem to be using the reasoning that you expect Kitty to be less useful later on. And I don't know that I'm comfortable using such reasoning.

Also that reasoning would apply just as well whichever alignment Kitty is.

Not exactly.

My thinking is this: I think Kitty has slightly higher than random chance to be town. If I'm correct about that, then sparing him is a pro town move, regardless of whether we do it today or on Day 3. However, if we spare my slot right now (the whole discussion started when Sakura voted to spare me and Python), then there will be one less person willing to spare Kitty on a later day. And I doubt Kitty can get himself super townread in ELo.

Therefore, since I think it's a good idea to spare him, I would like to do it BEFORE ELo. Because I am THAT confident I will be able to get my slot spared in ELo.

PEDIT: Also what Python said in the above post.

I have zero trust for myself in eLo after blundering away a game or two like that.

[KittyTacky]

Odds of a perfect game where we only lim consensus town doesn't look good to us tbh

I think with the confirmation that Enlightenment can go into the negative it would be super risky to fade anyone close to null D1. I could be wrong but I absolutely think we should go for the towniest player here

Right right right I thought it was capped at zero. nvm what I said.

VOTE: Something Cool

[KittyTacky]

Scum gonna get buffed if we are on the path to winning anyways, might as well spare a townie.

Like I think SC is independently town regardless of post volume. Very solvy.

[KittyTacky]

ngl, go off me please. I'm town but sparing me so early in the day is suboptimal, people need to talk first.

[KittyTacky]

Odds of a perfect game where we only lim consensus town doesn't look good to us tbh

I think with the confirmation that Enlightenment can go into the negative it would be super risky to fade anyone close to null D1. I could be wrong but I absolutely think we should go for the towniest player here

Right right right I thought it was capped at zero. nvm what I said.

VOTE: Something Cool

Do you have any thoughts on Alianna or Hu Tao?

Alianna null, Hu Tao kinda sliiightly above null. Both are probably my least visible players this game.

[KittyTacky]

Why Kitty?

After Hu Tao said she's confidently TRing him I did an ISO of him and I think he's nulltown.

I also think that mechanically it's more optimal to spare a nulltown on Day 1 than a top townread

UNLESS

we have reason to think that lowering enlightenment/increasing enlightenment has a mechanical effect beside advancing us toward wincon (EX: a town role that only works at 1+ enlightenment would make us want to spare a confident townread Day 1).

Pedit: I am also fine with doing Alianna. What's making you doubt your Hu Tao read?

I know this is modWIFOM but this seems like the kind of mod to make complex games so enlightenment definitely affects SOMETHING.

However! I just realized. To reduce swing and give negative feedback, what if enlightenment buffs evils?

UNVOTE:

WIFOM wifom...

Odds of a perfect game where we only lim consensus town doesn't look good to us tbh

I think with the confirmation that Enlightenment can go into the negative it would be super risky to fade anyone close to null D1. I could be wrong but I absolutely think we should go for the towniest player here

Right right right I thought it was capped at zero. nvm what I said.

VOTE: Something Cool

Uhh...was this you considering fading a scummy player to avoid an enlightenment buff?

I was going forward with the plan to fade a nulltown player instead but I realized it's dumb. I have a stream of consciousness way of playing.

[KittyTacky]

Kitty is the first lucky contestant to have the chance to join my town core. I'm close to just locking him as town.

I'm not seeing it, what makes Kitty town?

-Python

I have purple in my role PM.

This is the towniest I've seen kitty. I've seen kitty twice as scum.

I feel like that's a pretty easy comment to make. I don't see why that's so towny.

I'm town.

[KittyTacky]

I really hope scum has some night actions to make this game more interesting coz im very bored with just "find 3 townies and autowin".

You didn't read the setup before signing up?

(to be fair I skimmed it at first and then forgot half of it by the time the game filled)

[KittyTacky]

Why Kitty?

After Hu Tao said she's confidently TRing him I did an ISO of him and I think he's nulltown.

I also think that mechanically it's more optimal to spare a nulltown on Day 1 than a top townread

UNLESS

we have reason to think that lowering enlightenment/increasing enlightenment has a mechanical effect beside advancing us toward wincon (EX: a town role that only works at 1+ enlightenment would make us want to spare a confident townread Day 1).

Pedit: I am also fine with doing Alianna. What's making you doubt your Hu Tao read?

I know this is modWIFOM but this seems like the kind of mod to make complex games so enlightenment definitely affects SOMETHING.

However! I just realized. To reduce swing and give negative feedback, what if enlightenment buffs evils?

UNVOTE:

WIFOM wifom...

Can you explain this post? Were you thinking that it's better not to get enlightenment, even though it advances us towards wincon?

I was thinking the EV of a nulltown could be better than full on hard town but... then I realized nah the EV is worse. Game theory stuff.

[KittyTacky]

Why Kitty?

After Hu Tao said she's confidently TRing him I did an ISO of him and I think he's nulltown.

I also think that mechanically it's more optimal to spare a nulltown on Day 1 than a top townread

UNLESS

we have reason to think that lowering enlightenment/increasing enlightenment has a mechanical effect beside advancing us toward wincon (EX: a town role that only works at 1+ enlightenment would make us want to spare a confident townread Day 1).

Pedit: I am also fine with doing Alianna. What's making you doubt your Hu Tao read?

I know this is modWIFOM but this seems like the kind of mod to make complex games so enlightenment definitely affects SOMETHING.

However! I just realized. To reduce swing and give negative feedback, what if enlightenment buffs evils?

UNVOTE:

WIFOM wifom...

I... feel like the very mechanism of enlightenment itself reduces swing compared to a standard game. Trying to vote out your own team instead of the other means that when you succeed, there's less support to help you continue to succeed; as opposed to standard rules where voting out the opposite team gives you proportionally more support to continue to succeed.

Good point.

[KittyTacky]

Kitty is more reserved as scum. And he seems free here. I could tell from the first few posts

I'm town.

[KittyTacky]

Honestly I'd rather *not* be spared day 1 but rather someone I think is solidly town like SC. I play better D2 on.

This made me realize I forgor about my reads list. Coming soon.

[KittyTacky]

For me d1 is... not always stellar.

[KittyTacky]

As anyone who played with me knows.

[KittyTacky]

ngl, go off me please. I'm town but sparing me so early in the day is suboptimal, people need to talk first.

Another post rehashing what others have said but sounding more flat.

I'm allowed to sheep a take Gamma. I'm not obligated to have an unique take on everything that happens.

Gamma Emerald is being replaced.

[KittyTacky]

Hi T3.

[KittyTacky]

I've skimmed to page 10

HURT: Night Lights

Pretty strong scumread here

Elaborate?

[KittyTacky]

Alianna I know you decided Hunter/Hunted is unlikely but now I can't stop thinking about it

ngl, go off me please. I'm town but sparing me so early in the day is suboptimal, people need to talk first.

Honestly I'd rather *not* be spared day 1 but rather someone I think is solidly town like SC. I play better D2 on.

This made me realize I forgor about my reads list. Coming soon.

It really does look like it lol.

I'm not a hunter I just actually want to play this game.

[KittyTacky]

Halfway through my reskim of the game, making a reads list.

[KittyTacky]

I townread Alianna.

-Python

I townread Alianna.

I townread Alianna.

I townread Alianna.

-Python

Pagetop get.

I townread Alianna.

It's like I have a cult dedicated to me.

There's at least 1 scum here ngl. And it's not SC.

[KittyTacky]

And not NL.

I'm not really sure why people TRed Alianna so hard.

[KittyTacky]

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Halfway through my reskim of the game, making a reads list.

Are you checking it twice or what?

Yes but it was cut short because I slept through day end, the flip changed the evaluation anyways.

[KittyTacky]

I'm something of an idiot.

When I wrote that post I literally just woke up and didn't have my coffee and all the names blended together.

I'm sorry rotflmao

[KittyTacky]

Anyway. I'm sure we have more than 2 pr, and they are probably confused if they have something regards to me if they didn't listen to my warning. I should be the vote today.

This does feel like the kind of setup that has to be PR-heavy to be fun.

The claim makes sense. I don't think it's a fake claim. So as a lightning rod doesn't make too much sense for scum (or they'd be blocking off their own kill), Hu is town.

[KittyTacky]

Also I don't think it's smart to lock Hu Tao as town based on claim. Scum could definitely have Hu's role.

I... forgot that scum doesn't have a NK in this game. yeah lightning rod can be scum with jesters.

[KittyTacky]

Or wait they have a night enlighten?

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: Hu Tao

I feel in this game I have a hidden role modifier that decreases my IQ by 30.

[KittyTacky]

Should I claim?

[KittyTacky]

Should I claim?

do you have free will?

Yes I do.



VOTE: Roden

Game's solved so let's get this over with.

[KittyTacky]

If everything goes right, the plan should be something like:

-Confirm T3's role tonight
-Kitty claims tomorrow
-T3 gets voted if confirmed
-Potentially confirm Kitty's claim that night
-Vote Kitty the next Day if confirmed
-If T3 and/or Kitty are not confirmable, vote between Drew and NL

Does this sound right?

Yeah.

[KittyTacky]

I'm feeling kinda drained by this game ngl.

[KittyTacky]

Oops.

[KittyTacky]

I don't think I'll quickhammer as town because I'm bored again...

[KittyTacky]

GG regardless.

Not one of my proudest games.

[KittyTacky]

Happy birthday uP!

[KittyTacky]

I feel I failed this game.

[KittyTacky]

I think this setup is funner as scum than as town tbh. I felt kinda lost.