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Post Post #9 (isolation #0) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:33 pm

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Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:46 pm

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In post 12, Night Lights wrote:
Tbh Alisae and I generally type so differently that I may not have to tag at all :lol:

But it's so pretty
That's one of my favourite colours.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #2) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:48 pm

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Also Kitty is a liar, the jester troupe consists of just me.
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Post Post #19 (isolation #3) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:52 pm

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In post 17, Night Lights wrote:
Living Players:

Gamma Emerald
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Wow I'm dead already. I just got here
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In post 15, Alianna wrote:
In post 12, Night Lights wrote:
Tbh Alisae and I generally type so differently that I may not have to tag at all :lol:

But it's so pretty
That's one of my favourite colours.
You're one of my favorite colors
Dead bodies don't talk, shh.
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Post Post #23 (isolation #4) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:03 pm

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In post 22, Hu Tao wrote: Fun fact. I thought I was 3rd party until I read the setup after getting my role pm :lol:
Clearly that means you got a jester role PM.

HURT WITH A BLADE: Hu Tao

(in seriousness, I'll say it's mildly +town to post that)
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Post Post #26 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:13 pm

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In post 24, Night Lights wrote:
In post 22, Hu Tao wrote: Fun fact. I thought I was 3rd party until I read the setup after getting my role pm :lol:
This is either a townslip or an attempt at one
:shifty:
Yeah, that was my thought too.
Going off past experience, those sorts of townslips tend to be real, but it's definitely fakeable.
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Post Post #31 (isolation #6) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:28 pm

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In post 30, Night Lights wrote:
In post 26, Alianna wrote:
In post 24, Night Lights wrote:
In post 22, Hu Tao wrote: Fun fact. I thought I was 3rd party until I read the setup after getting my role pm :lol:
This is either a townslip or an attempt at one
:shifty:
Yeah, that was my thought too.
Going off past experience, those sorts of townslips tend to be real, but it's definitely fakeable.
I agree. Hu Tao also town slipped somewhat in Mini Normal 2313 which makes me even more inclined to believe it's real
Links?
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Post Post #34 (isolation #7) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:40 pm

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In post 32, Night Lights wrote:
In post 31, Alianna wrote:
In post 30, Night Lights wrote:
In post 26, Alianna wrote:
In post 24, Night Lights wrote:
In post 22, Hu Tao wrote: Fun fact. I thought I was 3rd party until I read the setup after getting my role pm :lol:
This is either a townslip or an attempt at one
:shifty:
Yeah, that was my thought too.
Going off past experience, those sorts of townslips tend to be real, but it's definitely fakeable.
I agree. Hu Tao also town slipped somewhat in Mini Normal 2313 which makes me even more inclined to believe it's real
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Mini Normal 2313

It's on page 10. It's not quite the same but Hu Tao started questioning the IC without realizing he was the IC
Okay, interesting.
I was going to say that if it was a very similar townslip, I would think it's slightly less likely to be real (I could try to elaborate on that but it's mostly gut instinct that says that), but it doesn't seem to be.

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Post Post #37 (isolation #8) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:49 pm

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In post 36, Night Lights wrote:
Alianna seems townie too
Why so?
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Post Post #44 (isolation #9) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:21 pm

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In post 40, Night Lights wrote:
In post 37, Alianna wrote:
In post 36, Night Lights wrote:
Alianna seems townie too
Why so?
Just vibes based on us seeing the same thing with Hu Tao. I don't think scum is super likely to point out a townslip. I think you would more than likely ignore it and hope no one picks up on it if you were scum. There's a chance you could be a Jester with Hu Tao, or even just a Jester trying to look townie, but I think that's less likely
Okay, that's fair.
I had a similar thought about you at first, but then realized you could have seen and then pointed it out in a more explicit way.
I don't think it's scummy of you to do that though.
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Post Post #48 (isolation #10) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:35 pm

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In post 46, Black wrote:
Fun fact: this color isn't available on mobile. I have to type the code manually
:roll:
Some of the colours I use when modding (particularly
town green
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Post Post #49 (isolation #11) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:43 pm

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In post 45, Night Lights wrote:
Fwiw I didn't see your post when I was writing mine. You're just too quick
I want to believe you, but I've faked p-edits as scum for similar purposes.
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Post Post #50 (isolation #12) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:43 pm

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Pagetop get.
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Post Post #51 (isolation #13) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:44 pm

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In post 49, Alianna wrote:
In post 45, Night Lights wrote:
Fwiw I didn't see your post when I was writing mine. You're just too quick
I want to believe you, but I've faked p-edits as scum for similar purposes.
*similar purposes to what you are doing if you are scum, sorry that wasn't worded the best
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Post Post #53 (isolation #14) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:52 pm

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In post 52, Doctor Drew wrote: WTF people

Between this and the sign up thread can you all slow down and let have some fun before everyone gets all serious?
Fun? Only a jester would care about fun!!!

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Post Post #60 (isolation #15) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:08 pm

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In post 54, Night Lights wrote:
In post 49, Alianna wrote:
In post 45, Night Lights wrote:
Fwiw I didn't see your post when I was writing mine. You're just too quick
I want to believe you, but I've faked p-edits as scum for similar purposes.
Why would I lie if you said you wouldn't think it would be scummy of me?
I mean, you could lie if you think the rest of the playerlist might not agree with me, or if it was your original intention to fake having not read it. That's not a bad point though.
In post 54, Night Lights wrote:And why are you even bringing up that you want to believe me if that's true?[/color]
I don't understand what the logic is there.
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Post Post #70 (isolation #16) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:24 pm

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In post 64, Night Lights wrote:
In post 60, Alianna wrote: I don't understand what the logic is there.
You: It wouldn't be scummy if you saw my post and then wrote yours
Me: I didn't see your post first
You: I want to believe you but I've done this as scum before

Idk, the thought process doesn't really make sense to me
It wouldn't be scummy if you saw my post and then wrote yours, but it
would
be towny if you didn't. was just me expressing that I couldn't be sure the second scenario was what actually happened, which I suppose I already said in .
Idk if that makes any more sense.
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Post Post #76 (isolation #17) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:45 pm

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In post 61, Hu Tao wrote: Can I not be voted out first? I know we want to be voted out but want to play this game, seems fun later on :lol:
This just makes me want to leave my vote on you lol.
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Post Post #77 (isolation #18) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:46 pm

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In post 75, Night Lights wrote:
I didn't see any of that in Mini Normal 1094. She was very logical and sharp. I'm not doubting you but I'm curious where the read comes from
Are you sure you have the right game name? Mini Normal 1094 was 13 years ago.
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Post Post #81 (isolation #19) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:49 pm

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In post 79, Night Lights wrote:
In post 77, Alianna wrote:
In post 75, Night Lights wrote:
I didn't see any of that in Mini Normal 1094. She was very logical and sharp. I'm not doubting you but I'm curious where the read comes from
Are you sure you have the right game name? Mini Normal 1094 was 13 years ago.
:lol:

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Aureal wasn't in Micro Normal 1094 though, I co-modded it. Did she altslip and I missed it or something?
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Post Post #86 (isolation #20) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:52 pm

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Yeah, we vote normally but the effect of the vote is to enlighten, causing the player to leave the game and the level of enlightenment to increase by 1 if town and decrease by 1 if scum.
Self-votes also don't count.

P-edit: That makes more sense, I misread that.
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Post Post #102 (isolation #21) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:11 pm

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In post 97, Sakura Hana wrote: VOTE: Sakura
I don't understand how anyone can townread anyone strongly enough to be voting for them within 4 pages at this point in time.
What's the difference between that and voting in the early pages of a normal game? Majority still has to agree on it.
You could even argue it's less risky than in a normal game because the probabilities are inverted.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #22) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:16 pm

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In post 107, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 97, Sakura Hana wrote: VOTE: Sakura
I don't understand how anyone can townread anyone strongly enough to be voting for them within 4 pages at this point in time.
Scum post. Trying too hard to look town
Ehh, to me they just look like they don't understand the setup, regardless of alignment. I do want to know why they thought that though.
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Post Post #111 (isolation #23) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:18 pm

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In post 109, Night Lights wrote:
In post 107, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 97, Sakura Hana wrote: VOTE: Sakura
I don't understand how anyone can townread anyone strongly enough to be voting for them within 4 pages at this point in time.
Scum post. Trying too hard to look town
Says the person that has townslipped twice already
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Post Post #113 (isolation #24) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:20 pm

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In post 110, Night Lights wrote:
In post 108, Alianna wrote:
In post 107, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 97, Sakura Hana wrote: VOTE: Sakura
I don't understand how anyone can townread anyone strongly enough to be voting for them within 4 pages at this point in time.
Scum post. Trying too hard to look town
Ehh,
to me they just look like they don't understand the setup
, regardless of alignment. I do want to know why they thought that though.
I'm curious why you think this but it can wait until Sakura responds
That is probably another case of Alianna-bad-wording, but I don't know what better wording is at the moment.
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Post Post #328 (isolation #25) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:51 am

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I've only skimmed the last 7 or so pages, haven't had the chance to catch up fully yet, but this caught my eye and I want to comment on it:
In post 325, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 283, Something Cool wrote: My thinking is this: I think Kitty has slightly higher than random chance to be town. If I'm correct about that, then sparing him is a pro town move, regardless of whether we do it today or on Day 3. However, if we spare my slot right now (the whole discussion started when Sakura voted to spare me and Python), then there will be one less person willing to spare Kitty on a later day. And I doubt Kitty can get himself super townread in ELo.

Therefore, since I think it's a good idea to spare him, I would like to do it BEFORE ELo. Because I am THAT confident I will be able to get my slot spared in ELo.[/color]
I vibe with this fyi
Ehh. Players who are nullish now can still become less null later on due to interactions with other slots, even if they aren't likely to look obvtown individually. And since every yeet on a jester increases the number of town yeets needed, I'd rather not gamble. Think someone else said something similar but I forget who.
(to be clear, I do not recall having seen anything from Kitty that pinged me as AI)
It does kind of suggest SC/Kitty same alignment though. If Kitty is town and scum!SC doesn't think he can get townread later on, why try to get rid of him instead of people who they think are a threat in late game? If Kitty is scum, this read is admittedly not as strong but I could see this post as an excuse to get a less towny scumbuddy out first if they're confident they can get the thread to spare them later.
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Post Post #329 (isolation #26) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:51 am

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I'll read up properly later.
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Post Post #353 (isolation #27) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:24 pm

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In post 348, Night Lights wrote:
In post 347, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 344, Night Lights wrote:
We shouldn't fade anyone yet. We have 9 days
Wrong. This gives scum more time to think of more strategies
???

You'll never convince me that ending the day 24 hours after the game starts is the optimal play. The best way to read people is to make them talk
That and the reasons are really weak. Like, the stated reason for the townread is literally this:
In post 189, Hu Tao wrote: ~Vibes~
Vibereads are fine, but vibes alone are not enough to push to get someone hammered 24 hours into the game.
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Post Post #354 (isolation #28) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:24 pm

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Idk if it's scummy but I don't like the ~vibes~ of it.
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Post Post #358 (isolation #29) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:31 pm

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In post 356, Aureal wrote: I feel like Hu wouldn't ever expect to get enlightened herself if she pushed a scumKitty wagon through here based on ~vibes~ :o
I mean, there's also the WIFOM aspect of "no scum is crazy enough to push their scumbuddy through 24 hours into the game because vibes." :lol:
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Post Post #359 (isolation #30) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:33 pm

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I just realized a scum lim is technically a mislim this game.
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Post Post #361 (isolation #31) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:37 pm

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In post 360, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 358, Alianna wrote:
In post 356, Aureal wrote: I feel like Hu wouldn't ever expect to get enlightened herself if she pushed a scumKitty wagon through here based on ~vibes~ :o
I mean, there's also the WIFOM aspect of "no scum is crazy enough to push their scumbuddy through 24 hours into the game because vibes." :lol:
I think I totally would here fwiw.

Are you saying you think Kitty is scum here though?
Kitty is dead null, I'm just speculating.
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Post Post #366 (isolation #32) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:47 pm

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In post 362, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 177, Something Cool wrote:
In post 176, Aureal wrote: *looks at the start of Python's mech*

Wait a sec, I was assuming 2/7 but I guess that's not actually said anywhere is it? And actually the sample PM for the dark jester saying "You win if all Dark Jesters in your Troupe have been Enlightened, preventing the Level of Enlightenment from ever reaching 3" indicates there are 3 of them because math and lack of self-voting power.
It's specified in the flavor
In post 8, Boonskiies wrote: However, a few of my Dark Jesters are among you, and if you choose to ENLIGHTEN
both of them
, then all your souls will be mine forever and all eternity.
it's just that the flavor is not mod guaranteed to be correct
In post 2, Boonskiies wrote: 32] The flavor text is for entertainment purposes only. Analyze it at your own risk.
-Python
...okay I am confused. ngl knowing the scumteam size is kinda important for my solving.
The flavour says "a pair," and then "a few," and then "both," and the role PMs say "all," so I would assume that maybe it's purposely ambiguous.
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Post Post #371 (isolation #33) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:50 pm

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In post 369, Night Lights wrote:
In post 358, Alianna wrote:
In post 356, Aureal wrote: I feel like Hu wouldn't ever expect to get enlightened herself if she pushed a scumKitty wagon through here based on ~vibes~ :o
I mean, there's also the WIFOM aspect of "no scum is crazy enough to push their scumbuddy through 24 hours into the game because vibes." :lol:
Yep I thought this too, but I decided it's probably not very likely

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Post Post #375 (isolation #34) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:52 pm

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Pagetop get.
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Post Post #388 (isolation #35) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:04 pm

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In post 160, Something Cool wrote: I townread Alianna.

-Python
In post 330, Aureal wrote: I townread Alianna.
In post 331, Night Lights wrote:
I townread Alianna.
In post 332, Something Cool wrote:
In post 160, Something Cool wrote: I townread Alianna.

-Python
In post 379, Aureal wrote:
In post 375, Alianna wrote: Pagetop get.
I townread Alianna.
It's like I have a cult dedicated to me.
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Post Post #389 (isolation #36) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:04 pm

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Okay, time to stop being lazy and actually read this game now.
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Post Post #392 (isolation #37) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:14 pm

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In post 157, Something Cool wrote: The best part about being in a hydra is that we can just call things based or cringe without ever putting in effort in sorting people

-Python
Based.
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Post Post #395 (isolation #38) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:29 pm

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In post 393, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 388, Alianna wrote:
In post 160, Something Cool wrote: I townread Alianna.

-Python
In post 330, Aureal wrote: I townread Alianna.
In post 331, Night Lights wrote:
I townread Alianna.
In post 332, Something Cool wrote:
In post 160, Something Cool wrote: I townread Alianna.

-Python
In post 379, Aureal wrote:
In post 375, Alianna wrote: Pagetop get.
I townread Alianna.
It's like I have a cult dedicated to me.
I actually hope for the day you are scum and I am town.

So I can be the arbiter of your demise :twisted:

Was that too intense?
You can arbit my demise right now by simply typing VOTE: Alianna!


(I swear I'm actually reading but went down the rabbit hole checking a meta read from WDM Redux)
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Post Post #396 (isolation #39) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:41 pm

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In post 161, Something Cool wrote:
Python wrote:Guessing Drew is that low cause of this?
*snip*
Actually it's mainly because of how if you look at his ISO, he doesn't make a single attempt to solve, makes tonally weird fluff posts that try to sound serious, and has not made any remotely towny-sounding post.
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Funny enough, Drew also bet his life on town!Snivy that game, but it wasn't quite as early as the Sakura locktown.
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Post Post #399 (isolation #40) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:46 pm

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In post 397, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 396, Alianna wrote:
In post 161, Something Cool wrote:
Python wrote:Guessing Drew is that low cause of this?
*snip*
Actually it's mainly because of how if you look at his ISO, he doesn't make a single attempt to solve, makes tonally weird fluff posts that try to sound serious, and has not made any remotely towny-sounding post.
I would need to check how much experience Dragon has with Drew, but I know I scumread town!Drew for similar stuff in WDM Redux, which Dragon was in. It wasn't
exactly
the same thing, but he was coasting, not being all that solvy, and I thought his tone was off. The point being that it feels like maybe Dragon should have known that wasn't scum-indicative.

Funny enough, Drew also bet his life on town!Snivy that game, but it wasn't quite as early as the Sakura locktown.
I also bet my life on scumTitus and townPython quite literally, which did work out fairly well lol. I forget, was Snivy town that game?

Also, to make things clear, my Sakura read was based in jokes......brb let me explain
Snivy was cult iirc.
I didn't check the entire game, just some of the early game.

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Post Post #401 (isolation #41) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:48 pm

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In post 400, Sakura Hana wrote: Funny, last 2 times i've been lock towned i've been scum.
Maybe the third time's the charm?
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Post Post #411 (isolation #42) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:05 pm

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In post 408, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 363, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 188, Something Cool wrote:
In post 187, Hu Tao wrote: Kitty is the first lucky contestant to have the chance to join my town core. I'm close to just locking him as town.
I'm not seeing it, what makes Kitty town?

-Python
I have purple in my role PM.
This is the towniest I've seen kitty. I've seen kitty twice as scum.
I feel like that's a pretty easy comment to make. I don't see why that's so towny.
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Post Post #414 (isolation #43) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm

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In post 410, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 409, Something Cool wrote: I'll begrudgingly accept this as a "I TR SC", though I still 100% don't agree to be spared today.
I've townread you for a while, i just stopped townreading Hu Tao.
Why do you townread SC?
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Post Post #427 (isolation #44) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:21 pm

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I don't trust Black but I've read up to about halfway through page 9 and I mindmeld with so many of her posts up to that point and on this page.
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Post Post #428 (isolation #45) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:21 pm

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In post 427, Alianna wrote: I don't trust Black but I've read up to about halfway through page 9 and I mindmeld with so many of her posts up to that point and on this page.
Except this page was actually last page.
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Post Post #434 (isolation #46) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:25 pm

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In post 426, Night Lights wrote:
In post 424, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 423, Night Lights wrote:
In post 418, Sakura Hana wrote: I really hope scum has some night actions to make this game more interesting coz im very bored with just "find 3 townies and autowin".
I don't like this post
What else is new.
:lol:

You actually had a couple that I liked before this
I liked , I feel like scum are more likely to give actual reasons than just respond with, "because I think you're town."
The last few posts give the vibe that she could be scum who just gave up and decided to troll though.
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Post Post #439 (isolation #47) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:30 pm

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In post 435, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 425, Night Lights wrote:
In post 419, Doctor Drew wrote: I like Python, like one of my favorite players to play with on here, but they will scum read someone for not playing how they think you should play(not calling them out per se, because others do this as well). But just because I am not solving in a way that you agree with, does not mean I am not solving
I'm pretty sure it was Dragon that made the Kitty/Drew reads
It more reminded me of how Python has approached me and others before.

Pre Edit: Ya i realize it was you and not Python, Re: Look above lol

A. I don't like people lock towning people so early(shout out Sakura lol)

B. Alianna will obv town it if she is town, haven't seen that yet. Not saying she is scum, but I am waiting for the thing that tells me 'Oh, Arizona State is town'
B is also my read on you right now.
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Post Post #442 (isolation #48) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:35 pm

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In post 422, Something Cool wrote:
In post 371, Alianna wrote:
In post 369, Night Lights wrote:
In post 358, Alianna wrote:
In post 356, Aureal wrote: I feel like Hu wouldn't ever expect to get enlightened herself if she pushed a scumKitty wagon through here based on ~vibes~ :o
I mean, there's also the WIFOM aspect of "no scum is crazy enough to push their scumbuddy through 24 hours into the game because vibes." :lol:
Yep I thought this too, but I decided it's probably not very likely

Can you stop being so town
I can lurk and then you won't have to read "I townread Alianna" so much. And then I won't have to actually put in the effort to get properly caught up! It's a win-win situation! :lol:
Considering that today's spare is like either you or Kitty, I do agree you could lurk if you wanted to. But if you have any useful reads that'd be nice.
I would not expect my reads to be useful if I were you, accuracy is not one of my strong points lol.

P-edit: I actually like it because I tend to prefer townhunting over scumhunting anyway.
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Post Post #449 (isolation #49) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:43 pm

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I'm conflicted on Sakura. Like I said, there's stuff I like and stuff I don't like. I don't think I'd vote there right now though.
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Post Post #458 (isolation #50) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:56 pm

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Update from bottom of page 10 (reading through this game verrrrrry sloooooowwwwwlllllyy): Python has good vibes and Dragon has weird vibes and has really weird vibes and it looks like Black noticed the vibes too. Once again not sure if I'd call it scummy though.
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Post Post #464 (isolation #51) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:01 pm

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In post 460, Something Cool wrote:
In post 458, Alianna wrote: Update from bottom of page 10 (reading through this game verrrrrry sloooooowwwwwlllllyy): Python has good vibes and Dragon has weird vibes and has really weird vibes and it looks like Black noticed the vibes too.
Once again not sure if I'd call it scummy though.
When do I not have weird vibes on Day 1?
See highlighted sentence.
That is correct, should have been more explicit.
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Post Post #483 (isolation #52) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:22 pm

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I'm pretty sure I've read everything at this point, flipping back and forth between recent stuff and catching up is confusing though.
Excluding myself, I'd say my top two vote choices right now are Hu Tao and Night Lights.
I can feel my eyes starting to glaze over though, so I think I've had enough mafia for now. I'm out for the night.
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Post Post #605 (isolation #53) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:21 am

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In post 4, Boonskiies wrote:
Hunter/Hunted
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Hunter wins when the Hunted dies before a specific day. Hunted wins if they survive. The two are taken out of the game after the day is over. These are innately Third Party, and can be combined with other roles. If they have something not in the Role Book, they will be considered Variants
If it didn't mean there'd be 2-3 jesters and 2 third parties, I would seriously begin to suspect something like this is going on with Tao/Kitty.
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Post Post #615 (isolation #54) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:41 am

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It makes sense dayplay-wise but it seems kind of unlikely mech-wise in a game this small.
I'd be interested to hear Python's thoughts on it.
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Post Post #619 (isolation #55) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:06 am

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In post 618, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 612, Night Lights wrote:
In post 606, Something Cool wrote: Weren't you the one who claimed that optimal strategy is fading the person you are most sure is town every day? How come you don't want to be faded if FYPOV you are the likeliest to be town?
Well first of all I don't think I'm the likeliest to be town in terms of how other players perceive me. I think maybe two people townread me?

Second I think I like me and Alisae's chances of finding other townies in this group

Third I just like the setup and the playerlist and want to keep playing
I can respect the last part, not that I thought I would be the first to be limmed, but I also would rather stick around a bit and play the game.

Like Dragons said, I don't know what Hu is doing here with her reads, but it seems like something scum wouldn't do. Still no chance I would vote for her.

Also Dragons, you should listen to Pythons more lol.
If you don't think scum would do what Hu Tao is doing, why aren't you willing to vote for her? Do you think she's 3p?
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Post Post #623 (isolation #56) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:21 am

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I could see it.
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Post Post #626 (isolation #57) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:30 am

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In post 624, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 619, Alianna wrote:
In post 618, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 612, Night Lights wrote:
In post 606, Something Cool wrote: Weren't you the one who claimed that optimal strategy is fading the person you are most sure is town every day? How come you don't want to be faded if FYPOV you are the likeliest to be town?
Well first of all I don't think I'm the likeliest to be town in terms of how other players perceive me. I think maybe two people townread me?

Second I think I like me and Alisae's chances of finding other townies in this group

Third I just like the setup and the playerlist and want to keep playing
I can respect the last part, not that I thought I would be the first to be limmed, but I also would rather stick around a bit and play the game.

Like Dragons said, I don't know what Hu is doing here with her reads, but it seems like something scum wouldn't do. Still no chance I would vote for her.

Also Dragons, you should listen to Pythons more lol.
If you don't think scum would do what Hu Tao is doing, why aren't you willing to vote for her? Do you think she's 3p?
You are emphasizing the part where I say it seems like something I don't think that scum would do, but glossing over that I don't know what she is doing.

It doesn't leave me in a comfortable spot to be voting her.

Are you comfortable voting for her?
This vibes town.
Comfortable enough, considering I agree with you that this doesn't seem like scum behaviour from Hu Tao.
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Post Post #628 (isolation #58) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:47 am

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In post 625, Night Lights wrote:
In post 623, Alianna wrote: I could see it.
What do you see? I'm curious if we're mindmelding on this too
It's some stuff from her ISO yesterday that I didn't notice at the time, so if your read is based on recent stuff it's probably not.
Gamma asked why Kitty, briefly commented on the response from SC but wasn't clear about her Kitty read, said she was fine voting him after an ISO but never explained why, but somehow it's a bad question when you ask about the strength and reason for the read.
In post 270, Gamma Emerald wrote: Why Kitty?
In post 289, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 274, Something Cool wrote:
In post 270, Gamma Emerald wrote: Why Kitty?
After Hu Tao said she's confidently TRing him I did an ISO of him and I think he's nulltown.

I also think that mechanically it's more optimal to spare a nulltown on Day 1 than a top townread
UNLESS
we have reason to think that lowering enlightenment/increasing enlightenment has a mechanical effect beside advancing us toward wincon (EX: a town role that only works at 1+ enlightenment would make us want to spare a confident townread Day 1).

Pedit: I am also fine with doing Alianna. What's making you doubt your Hu Tao read?
I think enlightenment might have effects where higher enlightenment gives scum a bonus
There was a mechanic like that in a LT from 2016
In post 309, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: KittyTacky
After an ISO, I’m fine with this
In post 324, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 312, Night Lights wrote:
In post 309, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: KittyTacky
After an ISO, I’m fine with this
Is Kitty your top townread? If so then why?
I have not really made efforts to read most of the slots so I can’t really describe him as a top TR. but this question sucks imo

I once again mindmeld with you on [url=viewtopic.php?p=14011931#p14011931]this[/post].
And then she just hasn't townpinged me at all.
So I wouldn't say for sure she's scum or anything, but I can see that world.
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Post Post #629 (isolation #59) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:48 am

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Let's fix that.
In post 625, Night Lights wrote:
In post 623, Alianna wrote: I could see it.
What do you see? I'm curious if we're mindmelding on this too
It's some stuff from her ISO yesterday that I didn't notice at the time, so if your read is based on recent stuff it's probably not.
Gamma asked why Kitty, briefly commented on the response from SC but wasn't clear about her Kitty read, said she was fine voting him after an ISO but never explained why, but somehow it's a bad question when you ask about the strength and reason for the read.
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In post 270, Gamma Emerald wrote: Why Kitty?
In post 289, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 274, Something Cool wrote:
In post 270, Gamma Emerald wrote: Why Kitty?
After Hu Tao said she's confidently TRing him I did an ISO of him and I think he's nulltown.

I also think that mechanically it's more optimal to spare a nulltown on Day 1 than a top townread
UNLESS
we have reason to think that lowering enlightenment/increasing enlightenment has a mechanical effect beside advancing us toward wincon (EX: a town role that only works at 1+ enlightenment would make us want to spare a confident townread Day 1).

Pedit: I am also fine with doing Alianna. What's making you doubt your Hu Tao read?
I think enlightenment might have effects where higher enlightenment gives scum a bonus
There was a mechanic like that in a LT from 2016
In post 309, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: KittyTacky
After an ISO, I’m fine with this
In post 324, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 312, Night Lights wrote:
In post 309, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: KittyTacky
After an ISO, I’m fine with this
Is Kitty your top townread? If so then why?
I have not really made efforts to read most of the slots so I can’t really describe him as a top TR. but this question sucks imo

I once again mindmeld with you on this.
And then she just hasn't townpinged me at all.
So I wouldn't say for sure she's scum or anything, but I can see that world.
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Post Post #635 (isolation #60) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:40 am

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In post 634, Hu Tao wrote: Alianna if you flip town which town reads are you most confident in?
I townread Alianna.

You and Night Lights. Though it kind of scares me how much I've mindmelded with Black lol.
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Post Post #636 (isolation #61) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:45 am

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In post 635, Alianna wrote:
In post 634, Hu Tao wrote: Alianna if you flip town which town reads are you most confident in?
I townread Alianna.

You and Night Lights. Though it kind of scares me how much I've mindmelded with Black lol.
The thing making me townread Black is also the thing making me paranoid of her. :lol:
That and she's burned me twice.
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Post Post #705 (isolation #62) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 3:50 pm

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In post 699, Night Lights wrote:
In post 695, Aureal wrote:
In post 691, Night Lights wrote: VOTE: Drew

Can we do this over Alianna today
You have a stronger read on him?
They are both my top townreads. I just have a slight paranoia about Alianna being townread by pretty much everyone :lol:

I'm down for either and it'll probably be Alianna since people seem to have mixed feelings about Drew, but my gut would rather go Drew first
I townread Alianna.
Wasn't I a UTR in the first game we played? The one where you brutally murdered me N1?
Also, what's your reasoning on Drew? I got town vibes off that one post I quoted but not enough to vote him yet.
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Post Post #706 (isolation #63) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 3:51 pm

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In post 700, T3 wrote: I've skimmed to page 10

HURT: Night Lights

Pretty strong scumread here
In post 701, T3 wrote: HURT: Hu Tao too
Those are my top TRs so I would be
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interested to hear why when you have the time.
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Post Post #712 (isolation #64) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:49 pm

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In post 707, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 705, Alianna wrote:
In post 699, Night Lights wrote:
In post 695, Aureal wrote:
In post 691, Night Lights wrote: VOTE: Drew

Can we do this over Alianna today
You have a stronger read on him?
They are both my top townreads. I just have a slight paranoia about Alianna being townread by pretty much everyone :lol:

I'm down for either and it'll probably be Alianna since people seem to have mixed feelings about Drew, but my gut would rather go Drew first
I townread Alianna.
Wasn't I a UTR in the first game we played? The one where you brutally murdered me N1?
Also, what's your reasoning on Drew? I got town vibes off that one post I quoted but not enough to vote him yet.
Why are you positioning it at only one of us can be town?

I said I have slight paranoia with you, but wouldn't fight it if the consensus is to vote you........did you think you could coast with that UTR?
I'm not sure I'm understanding your phrasing correctly here, but it seems like you're saying I'm acting like only one of me and you can be town. Correct me if that's wrong. I don't see where you get that since I'm townleaning you? I'm curious why Black townreads you that strongly because I'm not that confident on you myself but could be persuaded.
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Post Post #713 (isolation #65) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:53 pm

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In post 710, Night Lights wrote:
In post 705, Alianna wrote:
In post 699, Night Lights wrote:
In post 695, Aureal wrote:
In post 691, Night Lights wrote: VOTE: Drew

Can we do this over Alianna today
You have a stronger read on him?
They are both my top townreads. I just have a slight paranoia about Alianna being townread by pretty much everyone :lol:

I'm down for either and it'll probably be Alianna since people seem to have mixed feelings about Drew, but my gut would rather go Drew first
I townread Alianna.
Wasn't I a UTR in the first game we played? The one where you brutally murdered me N1?
Also, what's your reasoning on Drew? I got town vibes off that one post I quoted but not enough to vote him yet.
Alisae and I both townread him tonally. I just think he feels really casual and uninformed
I can see where you're coming from. I think his earlier posting is all NAI for him but I am starting to see things that are more in line with what I know of town!Drew (like his questioning of me just now).
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Post Post #718 (isolation #66) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:59 pm

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In post 716, Night Lights wrote:
I kinda want to hear more from T3 before we end the day
Agreed.
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Post Post #721 (isolation #67) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:06 pm

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Not worried, just surprised because Black's vote on you felt like it came out of the blue and there wasn't really a reason given for it.
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Post Post #724 (isolation #68) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:12 pm

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In post 723, Night Lights wrote:
I like that Drew is experiencing some of that paranoia too
We might as well be a three-headed hydra at this point. :lol:
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Post Post #726 (isolation #69) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:14 pm

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In post 725, Night Lights wrote:
In post 724, Alianna wrote:
In post 723, Night Lights wrote:
I like that Drew is experiencing some of that paranoia too
We might as well be a three-headed hydra at this point. :lol:
I would LOVE to hydra with you sometime. Can we please?
I'm sticking to one game at a time for now, but after this is over I'd be down to hydra.
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Post Post #729 (isolation #70) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:41 pm

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In post 728, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 726, Alianna wrote:
In post 725, Night Lights wrote:
In post 724, Alianna wrote:
In post 723, Night Lights wrote:
I like that Drew is experiencing some of that paranoia too
We might as well be a three-headed hydra at this point. :lol:
I would LOVE to hydra with you sometime. Can we please?
I'm sticking to one game at a time for now, but after this is over I'd be down to hydra.
Your name should be Black Sabbath, for as Paranoid as I would be about you two together.

Your welcome for the name, the least I could do
Admittedly had to Google that one.
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Post Post #735 (isolation #71) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:21 pm

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In post 731, Night Lights wrote:
Alianna I know you decided Hunter/Hunted is unlikely but now I can't stop thinking about it
:lol:
In post 386, KittyTacky wrote: ngl, go off me please. I'm town but sparing me so early in the day is suboptimal, people need to talk first.
In post 675, KittyTacky wrote: Honestly I'd rather *not* be spared day 1 but rather someone I think is solidly town like SC. I play better D2 on.

This made me realize I forgor about my reads list. Coming soon.
It really does look like it lol.
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Post Post #1003 (isolation #72) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:18 pm

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I scumread Alianna.
I townread Alianna.

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Post Post #1004 (isolation #73) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:25 pm

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GG everyone and thank you Boon for modding. I had fun!
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Post Post #1012 (isolation #74) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:39 pm

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In post 1008, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1003, Alianna wrote: I scumread Alianna.
I don't understand why everyone was lock towning you.

Listen to me people lol.

Python, stick to your gut lol.

But this was a weird game in general.
It's the power of the sig. :lol:
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Post Post #1013 (isolation #75) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:39 pm

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In post 1011, Sakura Hana wrote: Mafia is weird
^
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #76) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:59 pm

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In post 430, Something Cool wrote:
Re 419:

1. Nice to meet you Drew, my name is Dragon, not Python.

2. Yeah okay this is a slightly towny post. I agree with you on HT. Why don't you like the locktowns on Alianna though? Do you disagree about her being mega towny?
I thought you called me mega towny? Or were you just referring to other people thinking I was mega towny?
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Post Post #1027 (isolation #77) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:04 pm

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In post 1008, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1003, Alianna wrote: I scumread Alianna.
I don't understand why everyone was lock towning you.

Listen to me people lol.

Python, stick to your gut lol.

But this was a weird game in general.
It did feel as though you were staring straight into my evil, scum-tainted soul with and lol.
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Post Post #1029 (isolation #78) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:10 pm

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In post 1021, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1020, Something Cool wrote:
In post 1016, Sakura Hana wrote: I still dont understand how i went from being scumread by basically everyone to "Sakura was pretty townie" after I get replaced. Like my replace out was 100% NAI (I wasnt having fun with the game and felt like nothing i did mattered).
TBH it was Roden who was townie + your interaction with Alianna seemed unaligned (you said "why is the person who's scumreading me for trying to have fun this game town exactly?" IIRC)
Idk, i remember someone saying that Roden was "just there" but was town because i was townie or something, maybe i dreamed it coz i cant find it.
As for the later... Well that's just me reacting like how i would as town, nothing else. (
tbh i never expected my own partner to distance in that way
, but it helped create a more convincing distancing i guess)
I thought your distancing looked pretty convincing.
I haven't done anything like that before, figured I'd switch up strategies.
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Post Post #1046 (isolation #79) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:19 pm

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In post 1033, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1025, Alianna wrote:
In post 430, Something Cool wrote:
Re 419:

1. Nice to meet you Drew, my name is Dragon, not Python.

2. Yeah okay this is a slightly towny post. I agree with you on HT. Why don't you like the locktowns on Alianna though? Do you disagree about her being mega towny?
I thought you called me mega towny? Or were you just referring to other people thinking I was mega towny?
Idk, maybe a mix of both. If you notice I am one of the people who DIDN'T spam the thread with "I townread Alianna", and I thought Black was townier.

I wouldn't have fought against your spare though if I'm being honest. You did well.
In post 1037, usesPython wrote: Scum played well, gg
Thanks! :D
In post 1042, usesPython wrote:
In post 1040, usesPython wrote: Thank you!
Extending this to everyone after so the thread doesn't get spammed
Happy birthday!
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Post Post #1055 (isolation #80) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:14 pm

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In post 1052, Black wrote: ^ kinda want to add this to my sig
Lol, do it.
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Post Post #1058 (isolation #81) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:19 pm

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In post 1057, Black wrote: Honestly I deserve this after fooling you in Backup6, which is also in my sig :lol:
REVENGE!!! :twisted:
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Post Post #1061 (isolation #82) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:24 pm

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In post 1060, Black wrote:
In post 1059, Aureal wrote: I didn't even get to vote this game, guys. You're all so impatient. :o

I guess it's appropriate. :lol:
:lol:

Speaking of signatures, I can't read yours without busting up laughing
^
Aureal's sig is hilarious.
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