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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:23 am

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omg again
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:33 am

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A breakdown of 226: commentary is in
bold gold
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In post 226, Laplacian wrote: Alright, time to actually make big posts with quotes instead of quickly typing on a phone in between games at a party.
This first sentence is telling. He's making a big thing out of this post while basically throwing away anything he's previously posted as trash. This feels very survivalistic, and it betrays that he's setting out to make this post be big and have quotes for the sake of being big and having quotes. Keep this in mind as you continue reading.
In post 123, Abnegation wrote:
In post 111, Laplacian wrote:
In post 110, Abnegation wrote:
In post 56, Laplacian wrote: I'm with Thom here

1. Wishes people voted for a really bad reason
2. Would totally defend someone and get that nice townie cred
3. Goes full Vizzini when called out

Was gonna savor RVS for longer, but this feels legit sus to me
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Pavowski
this post vibes a bit weird, people had been discussing that pavowski's post may not be serious and then laplacian just completely ignores that possibility.
Was typing that while those other posts appeared, read them, decided I still stood by it. I read the tone as 'oh, this is not serious (unless you wamt to act on it then it's 100% serious)'
the thing is, your case is based on the assumption that he was serious. if you didn't think the posts were serious unless acted on (though i'm not entirely sure what you mean by "act on" so i could be misunderstanding something), why call them "legit sus" and make what would seem to be a serious vote based on that case?
idk, something doesn't add up here.
I do assume he was serrious, but posted it under a
jokey veneer
for
plausible deniability
.
Basically
, if no one follows up or calls out the post, pretend it was entirely a joke and can be safely ignored. But if other people follow that lead and start voting on Kyouko, they can swap and treat it as 100% serious. Basically leave yourself an out via comedy. It's a
pretty classic technique
, and I hope
my having to elaborate
is because of my poor wording last night.

The red words are totally different from how Laplacian was posting before, and I feel like using them to seem more insightful than he is. He's embellishing. Then after he says it in that weird way he says "Basically"... and explains it. This feels like a tactic to make the post longer, like when you're looking to meet the word count on a paper and you start throwing in adjectives and shit?


Furthermore, the line of
In post 46, Pavowski wrote: Somebody vote Kyouko for that smell thing, that was weird, wasn't it?
feels ick to me. Kyouko's original post did not make "that smell thing" sound pleasant most of the time, and
even the idea of voting someone based on an irl issue seemed really gross
. While I don't think that was Pav's intent, especially with the
offer of defense
,
it was as if he was looking for
any reason to push Kyouko and jumped on that as the most content-filled post.
The bold feels LAMIST

In post 187, Pavowski wrote:
In post 56, Laplacian wrote: I'm with Thom here

1. Wishes people voted for a really bad reason
2. Would totally defend someone and get that nice townie cred
3. Goes full Vizzini when called out

Was gonna savor RVS for longer, but this feels legit sus to me
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Pavowski
In post 117, Laplacian wrote:
In post 115, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Laplacian is scum you nerds you can policy the shitposter tomorrow
Um, excuse me, juggernaut masonizer death miller with 3x BP is clearly a town role.
Are we past the meme phase y/n
ssbm_Kyouko's s vote gave as much evidence against me as that shitpost gave in my defense, felt appropriate.

This is just a really wordy justification? See spoiler. Also, the evidence was there for those that wanted to look. I think anyone trying to find the reasoning could have found it but many people assumed it was an RVS vote because of the early stage.

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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:44 am

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Votecount 1.3

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 07:27:34).


Votecount
Laplacian (4)
- ssbm_kyouko, Abnegation, Pavowski, HighPrincessErinys
Flavor Leaf (2)
- Flavor Leaf, cw357
Abnegation (1)
- Laplacian
cw357 (1)
- Joyboy
DragonEater70 (1)
- geraintm
HighPrincessErinys (1)
- DragonEater70

Not Voting (3)
- Hu Tao, Purplemango, Thomith


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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:45 am

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In post 270, Hu Tao wrote: Might be because I don't see the reason for the Lap scumread though
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:46 am

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In fact, I have town read Lap since early.

Scum is on Lap right now.
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:46 am

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In post 276, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Nah it's just felt like a pattern, I'm pretty focused on Laplacian rn and it's felt a couple of times like when you post it's meant to distract from that.
K

Kinda don't really care to respond to every point of your whole scum case on me, it's too kooky for me to even bother with.

The gist of it is you're wrong, you never did give a good reasoning for voting Lap. That "hint" you quoted is incredibly unclear and I still have no idea what it means. Even doesn't really give me a reason to think your vote there is more than an RVS vote.

All of the quotes you show of me not caring about the Lap wagon are easily explained by the fact that I simply do not care about that wagon. I have no read on Lap. I do have a scumread on HPE though and I think its jump on the wagon is scummy. But not because Lap is town, because is a horrible and over-explainly post. And it also scumreads Lap for... rereading the game and having a different read on Pav? Which is scummy because...?

I think you are extremely tunneled on Lap and are just forcing perceived associations to fit your solve
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:46 am

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In post 304, Flavor Leaf wrote: In fact, I have town read Lap since early.

Scum is on Lap right now.
Sheep me on HPE?
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:49 am

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Orrrr, I was at a party last night so my posts were short and unembellished phone posts. You're looking at my usual writing style now. Also impressed that you have the gall to complain about rhetorical techinques while
Using Bold Gold Text
to make your own commentary look important. This tunnel is so deep it's a borehole now.
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:50 am

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In post 296, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: I just find it interesting
Ah, the classic scum tactic of contradicting themself at the earliest convenience after something is pointed out as scummy. Truly classic.
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:53 am

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Anyone scumreading Lap for changing posting style is either mega tunneled or scum

Kyo is clearly mega tunneled and HPE is clearly scum, btw
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:54 am

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In post 309, DragonEater70 wrote: Anyone scumreading Lap for changing posting style is either mega tunneled or scum

Kyo is clearly mega tunneled and HPE is clearly scum, btw
I could see one of the two of them or Abnegation as scum here.

I don’t necessarily think they have to be, though.
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:55 am

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*sigh*

Just vote one and I'll sheep you
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:56 am

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Kyouko feels a little too tunneled onto Lap, but idk if that’s a scum thing to be right now.
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:57 am

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In post 147, Abnegation wrote:
In post 139, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 53, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 47, Thomith wrote:
In post 46, Pavowski wrote: *pokes thread with a stick*

What, do you people have jobs or something?

Somebody vote Kyouko for that smell thing, that was weird, wasn't it?

That way I can defend her and be all "nah that's totally normal, actually"
I'm finding myself not liking this post. Its giving me a weird gut ping that it feels fake but I dont know how to explain it fully.

You mentioned earlier that we were early on in the day, but here you are acting like there is a sense of urgency that feels like a subtle contradiction.

Why are you trying to get other people to vote Kyouko for something that you find weird? Why not lead the charge yourself if you want to get the game moving?
In post 48, Thomith wrote: UNVOTE:
VOTE: Pavowski

Thomith don't you think maybe you're jumping the gun a bit? Pavowski's post seems a little, teensy tiny bit, blatantly, shitposty.
Second post by HPE that pinged me as scummy

VOTE: HPE
i don't see it.
why do you think it's scummy?

This is a post to remember going forward.
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:57 am

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Yeah, I don't think scum goes this hard as the first one to vote for me. Abnegation scum as I've said before, can totally see HPE as well
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:59 am

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In post 313, Flavor Leaf wrote: This is a post to remember going forward.
Funny, it also pinged me a bit.
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:00 am

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In post 313, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 147, Abnegation wrote:
In post 139, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 53, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 47, Thomith wrote:
In post 46, Pavowski wrote: *pokes thread with a stick*

What, do you people have jobs or something?

Somebody vote Kyouko for that smell thing, that was weird, wasn't it?

That way I can defend her and be all "nah that's totally normal, actually"
I'm finding myself not liking this post. Its giving me a weird gut ping that it feels fake but I dont know how to explain it fully.

You mentioned earlier that we were early on in the day, but here you are acting like there is a sense of urgency that feels like a subtle contradiction.

Why are you trying to get other people to vote Kyouko for something that you find weird? Why not lead the charge yourself if you want to get the game moving?
In post 48, Thomith wrote: UNVOTE:
VOTE: Pavowski

Thomith don't you think maybe you're jumping the gun a bit? Pavowski's post seems a little, teensy tiny bit, blatantly, shitposty.
Second post by HPE that pinged me as scummy

VOTE: HPE
i don't see it.
why do you think it's scummy?

This is a post to remember going forward.
In post 315, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 313, Flavor Leaf wrote: This is a post to remember going forward.
Funny, it also pinged me a bit.
Why is this pinging you both?
thomith could be a court jester

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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:02 am

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In post 299, Pavowski wrote:
In post 294, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 293, Pavowski wrote:
In post 291, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 288, Pavowski wrote: Hey Hu, who (lol?) are you feeling towny on right now? Just curious.
Flavor since I've seen him do this as town. Dragon is a maybe. Think that's it. I usually don't give townreads or scumreads too easy though.
Well that's something, at least
What about you?
For the moment I think:
kyouko is town (maybe a little over-tunneled on Lap for this early in the game, but who among us),
Dragon may be town (see my earlier response to him),
cw is very likely town, which is a bummer cuz if they follow their current trend it'll get them yeeted
on a personal note I just really want Flavor to be town, if he's scum his pockets are getting crowded
and I slightly townlean the doll

and for reference, this is my first go-round with almost everybody in this list (save kyouko and Abnegation, but again, it's been a *while*) so I have no meta for anybody
Who do you think could be scum so far?
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:03 am

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In post 163, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 162, DragonEater70 wrote: Flavor who do you scumread outside of yourself?
i would prefer holding onto my sole scum read of the game so far, as it's just pings, and don't really plan to push that person right now.
I was referring to Abnegation here, but I didn't have a lot then, and I don't want to misfade her if she's town.

I think she's decently aware of the fact this was her also.
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:05 am

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In post 312, Flavor Leaf wrote: Kyouko feels a little too tunneled onto Lap, but idk if that’s a scum thing to be right now.
She could just be tunneled. I do agree if lap is town that scum is likely on the wagon already
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:05 am

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In post 316, Thomith wrote: Why is this pinging you both?
There's a certain possibility it's trying to defuse a scumread on a partner, I guess. I don't think it's +scum for Abnegation, but I do think if Abneg is scum she's more likely to be scum with HPE than random.
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:06 am

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All roads always lead back to this VOTE: HPE
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:10 am

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Only thing holding me back is I always scumread it early. HPE has a habit of doing something scummy early and then it's town after flip. Just like the smugglers game. Kyouko, taking your tunnel out of consideration, thoughts on HPE?
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:11 am

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what's the HPE case? I reread ISO, and I dont necessarily feel it.
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:12 am

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In post 319, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 312, Flavor Leaf wrote: Kyouko feels a little too tunneled onto Lap, but idk if that’s a scum thing to be right now.
She could just be tunneled. I do agree if lap is town that scum is likely on the wagon already
is it out of their scum range to fake a tunnel as scum?

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