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[Laplacian]

Glad cw is back and toning down the memes. However, they pop back in within 30 minutes of Kyouko saying cw had valid thoughts. Could just be good timing, but I'm also thinking scum chat coaching. Like, "tone it down before you get policied, go contribute next time you're mentioned"

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Kyouko did you ever reply to my post asking if you see any similarities between this game and the smugglers game for HPE? I have a tendency to scumread HPE a lot, so not sure.

just now, that's why I've been rereading, though earlier I did mention in a long and roundabout way that my smugglers game experience did not help me learn how to read anyone - after I solved the mechs I was shitposting and not really paying attention - before then I was looking for some basic "paired/not paired" reads to help make a 3x3

[Laplacian]

(I can say that as long as I don't try to provide evidence, yes?)

Yeah, as long as you don't take a picture of the dice

I got laplacian, but if I'm not mistaken laplacian is On E-2 (?) so it's probably not such a good idea to vote for laplacian right now, maybe later
Anyway, I would prefer this out of the two because of that

What kind of dice we talking? d20? Boring d6? Spicy weird one like a d14? I'll only accept this rng if it's a cool die.

[Hu Tao]

Glad cw is back and toning down the memes. However, they pop back in within 30 minutes of Kyouko saying cw had valid thoughts. Could just be good timing, but I'm also thinking scum chat coaching. Like, "tone it down before you get policied, go contribute next time you're mentioned"

I could see cw doing it on purpose to see who would try to ask for a policy Elim. Which is why I wouldn't hate a joyboy vote either.

[Hu Tao]

Kyouko did you ever reply to my post asking if you see any similarities between this game and the smugglers game for HPE? I have a tendency to scumread HPE a lot, so not sure.

just now, that's why I've been rereading, though earlier I did mention in a long and roundabout way that my smugglers game experience did not help me learn how to read anyone - after I solved the mechs I was shitposting and not really paying attention - before then I was looking for some basic "paired/not paired" reads to help make a 3x3

That's fair

[Purplemango]

(I can say that as long as I don't try to provide evidence, yes?)

Yeah, as long as you don't take a picture of the dice

I got laplacian, but if I'm not mistaken laplacian is On E-2 (?) so it's probably not such a good idea to vote for laplacian right now, maybe later
Anyway, I would prefer this out of the two because of that

What kind of dice we talking? d20? Boring d6? Spicy weird one like a d14? I'll only accept this rng if it's a cool die.

What are your pronouns?:)

d20
Unfortunately, I don't really have any that are cool

[DragonEater70]

(I can say that as long as I don't try to provide evidence, yes?)

Yeah, as long as you don't take a picture of the dice

I got laplacian, but if I'm not mistaken laplacian is On E-2 (?) so it's probably not such a good idea to vote for laplacian right now, maybe later
Anyway, I would prefer this out of the two because of that

Genuine question: when do you think would be a better time to vote?

[DragonEater70]

Or rather let me be a newbie coach and say that you are expected to vote when playing in this site, and not only close to deadline.

[Flavor Leaf]

Vote when you’re ready.

Don’t let anyone scare ya into voting, sometimes i don’t vote by this time

[Laplacian]

Glad cw is back and toning down the memes. However, they pop back in within 30 minutes of Kyouko saying cw had valid thoughts. Could just be good timing, but I'm also thinking scum chat coaching. Like, "tone it down before you get policied, go contribute next time you're mentioned"

I could see cw doing it on purpose to see who would try to ask for a policy Elim. Which is why I wouldn't hate a joyboy vote either.

That would be an interesting gambit. I've always seen policy elims as NAI, but scum would have a higher incentive to call for PEs on a townie

[Purplemango]

Or rather let me be a newbie coach and say that you are expected to vote when playing in this site, and not only close to deadline.

Maybe, but that still leaves too much time for it to make sense in my mind
I suppose it is possible to vote now/soon

[Flavor Leaf]

Glad cw is back and toning down the memes. However, they pop back in within 30 minutes of Kyouko saying cw had valid thoughts. Could just be good timing, but I'm also thinking scum chat coaching. Like, "tone it down before you get policied, go contribute next time you're mentioned"

I could see cw doing it on purpose to see who would try to ask for a policy Elim. Which is why I wouldn't hate a joyboy vote either.

That would be an interesting gambit. I've always seen policy elims as NAI, but scum would have a higher incentive to call for PEs on a townie

I feel town or more likely to call for a PL than scum.

Kinda bad form as scum to try and push a PL.

But it can happen.

I don’t share the sentiment of policy being bad if necessary, though

[Laplacian]

Caught up, didn't really see anything from last night that changes my opinion.

Will happily vote for HPE, Abnegation, or DE70

Town FL, lean town on Thom, Pav, and HT

Everyone else I'm either unsure or want more info

[DragonEater70]

Lap, It would be cool if instead of commentating, you'd actually talk with people.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Lemme check myself before taking someone this one is wary of at face value

Okay checks out thank you :salute:
VOTE: Laplacian

To elaborate this one disagrees on Abne doing nothing but illusory acts of help, but more importantly just doesn't really think there's that "comedic veneer" from Pavowski and that 46 and 51 are secretly totally serious. ESPECIALLY not a fan of the sudden mood change after a reread, compare and contrast how 226 and 228 talk about Pavowski. Still don't like those early posts but certainly willing to write things off. It reeks of "scum failed to get people to kill this guy so they're walking away and saying 'yeah but i think they're cool now'".

Just to be clear, this one says it

disagrees

with Laplacian's assessment of Pavowski's 46 and 51, right? Or is this one saying it thinks that Pavowski was being serious in 46/51 without a "comedic veneer"?

(Am I using this one's pronouns right, I'm not sure if I should use "you/your" or "this one/this one's")

Disagrees, yes.

(You/your is fine.)

[HighPrincessErinys]

Glad cw is back and toning down the memes. However, they pop back in within 30 minutes of Kyouko saying cw had valid thoughts. Could just be good timing, but I'm also thinking scum chat coaching. Like, "tone it down before you get policied, go contribute next time you're mentioned"

This feels rather farfetched but with how insane cw has been, who fucking knowssssss.

[Laplacian]

Glad cw is back and toning down the memes. However, they pop back in within 30 minutes of Kyouko saying cw had valid thoughts. Could just be good timing, but I'm also thinking scum chat coaching. Like, "tone it down before you get policied, go contribute next time you're mentioned"

This feels rather farfetched but with how insane cw has been, who fucking knowssssss.

IMO, it's time zone dependent. If this is a reasonable time for them, just good timing. In light of that, I copied DE and put my time zone in my profile since knowing activity patterns is always interesting

[Laplacian]

Or rather let me be a newbie coach and say that you are expected to vote when playing in this site, and not only close to deadline.

Maybe, but that still leaves too much time for it to make sense in my mind
I suppose it is possible to vote now/soon

You can vote me, it's all good. If I get hammered it will at least give a fuckload of information to town

[Laplacian]

Not inviting the hammer to be clear, but if it happens y'all better make the most of it

[Abnegation]

going to start catching up now. probably will just post as i go.

Alright, time to actually make big posts with quotes instead of quickly typing on a phone in between games at a party.

I'm with Thom here

1. Wishes people voted for a really bad reason
2. Would totally defend someone and get that nice townie cred
3. Goes full Vizzini when called out

Was gonna savor RVS for longer, but this feels legit sus to me
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Pavowski

this post vibes a bit weird, people had been discussing that pavowski's post may not be serious and then laplacian just completely ignores that possibility.

Was typing that while those other posts appeared, read them, decided I still stood by it. I read the tone as 'oh, this is not serious (unless you wamt to act on it then it's 100% serious)'

the thing is, your case is based on the assumption that he was serious. if you didn't think the posts were serious unless acted on (though i'm not entirely sure what you mean by "act on" so i could be misunderstanding something), why call them "legit sus" and make what would seem to be a serious vote based on that case?
idk, something doesn't add up here.

I do assume he was serrious, but posted it under a jokey veneer for plausible deniability. Basically, if no one follows up or calls out the post, pretend it was entirely a joke and can be safely ignored. But if other people follow that lead and start voting on Kyouko, they can swap and treat it as 100% serious. Basically leave yourself an out via comedy. It's a pretty classic technique, and I hope my having to elaborate is because of my poor wording last night.

partially the wording, partially because i think that's a very weird thing for pav to try to pass off as serious.

Furthermore, the line of

Somebody vote Kyouko for that smell thing, that was weird, wasn't it?

feels ick to me. Kyouko's original post did not make "that smell thing" sound pleasant most of the time, and even the idea of voting someone based on an irl issue seemed really gross. While I don't think that was Pav's intent, especially with the offer of defense, it was as if he was looking for any reason to push Kyouko and jumped on that as the most content-filled post.

except it wasn't content-filled in any game-relevant sense? nor do i think scum!pav would need "any reason to push kyouko" at that point in the game, or assume that seriously pushing kyouko for that post is actually going to work.
i've been thinking about why this push gives me weird vibes, and it think it's because it's applying non-rvs logic to rvs posts in a way that pings me as forced. and then add to that the fact that it's piggybacking off thomith's push, and it feels a little opportunistic.
it's not a hard scumread, especially since i haven't even read half the thread, but i can see a world where scum!you saw an opportunity in thomith's push and decided to jump on it, but had to make up some questionable reasons to do it.
it's probably +town for both thomith and pav if you flip red though.

[geraintm]

Glad cw is back and toning down the memes. However, they pop back in within 30 minutes of Kyouko saying cw had valid thoughts. Could just be good timing, but I'm also thinking scum chat coaching. Like, "tone it down before you get policied, go contribute next time you're mentioned"

am i just in the wrong scum chats. i have never had games like this where my partners tell me how to post

[Abnegation]

I don't like how DE70 emphasizes early on how lazy they are, and yet posts extensive quote walls that seem the opposite of lazy. I don't know his meta - maybe this is lazy for him - but it's enough to make me pay attention. Not worthy of swapping vote, but would hop on a train for them if someone makes a good case.

Pavowski - still dont like that early post combo, but everything since then has had good vibes. Hades, edibles, first game in a few years, and the exact same reaction I had to joyboy showing up. Close enough to my thoughts and tastes that he's probably town.

UNVOTE:

having played with de70, i can confirm that that's his version of lazy.

ssbm_Kyouko gives bad vibes, but that's like 2/3rds omgus and 1/3rd "give the appearance of momentum" line. Would vote if came to it

FL town

Abnegation has no reads, just prodding at others reads and giving the illusion of being helpful. Scum trying to find a good train to hop on, as shown by them hopping on me without saying anything.
VOTE: Abnegation

"no reads" is a stretch, though you'd be right that i don't have any solid reads.
i hopped on you that way because (1) i had no time, and (2) i felt i'd already addressed everything i needed to address up to that point.

[Abnegation]

thomith is asking some good questions on page 10, +town.

[Hu Tao]

Vote when you’re ready.

Don’t let anyone scare ya into voting, sometimes i don’t vote by this time

Same

[DragonEater70]

partially the wording, partially because i think that's a very weird thing for pav to try to pass off as serious

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