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[Pavowski]

The results are in: pretty hard

[Pavowski]

Nope I thought I had the brainpower for this but I do not, merry xmas from my brother-in-law and I'll try again when I sleep this off

[cw357]

I'm at E-2
just hammer

[Purplemango]

Why pav is scum?

Why ask only about Pavowski and not Hu Tao here?

I pretty much understood why hu tao was there, less about pavowski, and they talked about him more before that
makes sense to me in general to ask about something specific, and not about all the scumreads there were

[DragonEater70]

Yeah this one doesn't think 47 was a normal or towny way of getting out of RVS like at all.

Hmm okay

Would you vote

Thomith

here?

i just have a hard time seeing Dragon play this way as scum. it's over the line of too much as scum, that i think it's just genuine.

im pocketed cuz of it if they are scum, though, so ill have to break out of that later in the game if it turns out they are, but thats not a Day 1 thing

This one doesn't think Dragon is scum tbh just not playing so well lmao

Sadly this makes me slightly less confident about the scumread

If

Lap

and

HT

stopped existing, sure.

I lol'd

If I were scum and I had TMI, I might find it amusing that town!HPE and town!Dragon are arguing over who should be wagoned (both wagon targets town), and that HPE says it would vote town if the other 2 town were gone. If Pavowski flips red I'm pretty confident this is why he was laughing and it means HPE, Dragon, and Hu Tao are all town

Why is Hu Tao green here?

[DragonEater70]

Oh sorry I should have read to the end

[DragonEater70]

Why pav is scum?

Why ask only about Pavowski and not Hu Tao here?

FWIW I wasn't calling Hu Tao scum in the post Purple replied to

[DragonEater70]

Feels like Kyouko already knew that was there and is acting like they didn’t

explain?

Can someone voting dragon explain that? I don't see it

pushed laplacian while maintaining distance yesterday in a very un-towny way
pocket attempts
a lot of interactions stuff, if a dragon wagon actually becomes a big thing I could ISO

Basically i think Kyouko already knew that FBI soft was there, and is acting like they just found it to help push a narrative. It’s sussy baka if they knew about it in Day 1.

Same thing occurred to me but I didn't know if that was the paranoia talking

It sure feels like I'm seeing Pavowski *behind* a lot of ideas but not giving a lot of his own ideas

VOTE: Pavowski
I do think I prefer this over cw because there's a possibility cw is being used as a townbeard. I agree with the points made that, if town, cw could be a liability in ELO given his tunneling hasn't stopped yet. Maybe it stops soon though if he is town?

Idk if it's stopped or not

We just need to vig cw

But I can support a Pav wagon

[cw357]

Feels like Kyouko already knew that was there and is acting like they didn’t

explain?

Can someone voting dragon explain that? I don't see it

pushed laplacian while maintaining distance yesterday in a very un-towny way
pocket attempts
a lot of interactions stuff, if a dragon wagon actually becomes a big thing I could ISO

Basically i think Kyouko already knew that FBI soft was there, and is acting like they just found it to help push a narrative. It’s sussy baka if they knew about it in Day 1.

Same thing occurred to me but I didn't know if that was the paranoia talking

It sure feels like I'm seeing Pavowski *behind* a lot of ideas but not giving a lot of his own ideas

VOTE: Pavowski
I do think I prefer this over cw because there's a possibility cw is being used as a townbeard. I agree with the points made that, if town, cw could be a liability in ELO given his tunneling hasn't stopped yet. Maybe it stops soon though if he is town?

Idk if it's stopped or not

We just need to vig cw

But I can support a Pav wagon

lol dragon knows that if I were to flip green by getting elim-ed he, hpe, and hu tao would suddenly be vig targets ahahahahahahah
very smart

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Feels like Kyouko already knew that was there and is acting like they didn’t

explain?

Can someone voting dragon explain that? I don't see it

pushed laplacian while maintaining distance yesterday in a very un-towny way
pocket attempts
a lot of interactions stuff, if a dragon wagon actually becomes a big thing I could ISO

Basically i think Kyouko already knew that FBI soft was there, and is acting like they just found it to help push a narrative. It’s sussy baka if they knew about it in Day 1.

Same thing occurred to me but I didn't know if that was the paranoia talking

It sure feels like I'm seeing Pavowski *behind* a lot of ideas but not giving a lot of his own ideas

VOTE: Pavowski
I do think I prefer this over cw because there's a possibility cw is being used as a townbeard. I agree with the points made that, if town, cw could be a liability in ELO given his tunneling hasn't stopped yet. Maybe it stops soon though if he is town?

Idk if it's stopped or not

We just need to vig cw

But I can support a Pav wagon

lol dragon knows that if I were to flip green by getting elim-ed he, hpe, and hu tao would suddenly be vig targets ahahahahahahah
very smart

If pav is red what changes?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Why pav is scum?

Why ask only about Pavowski and not Hu Tao here?

FWIW I wasn't calling Hu Tao scum in the post Purple replied to

I feel like this makes 860 more insightful and +town - I dont think scum comes at HPE's question with anything other than their own scumreads (haven't confirmed the post number, I think 860 is what purple was replying to)

[Flavor Leaf]

How is Kyouko town

[DragonEater70]

Feels like Kyouko already knew that was there and is acting like they didn’t

explain?

Can someone voting dragon explain that? I don't see it

pushed laplacian while maintaining distance yesterday in a very un-towny way
pocket attempts
a lot of interactions stuff, if a dragon wagon actually becomes a big thing I could ISO

Basically i think Kyouko already knew that FBI soft was there, and is acting like they just found it to help push a narrative. It’s sussy baka if they knew about it in Day 1.

Same thing occurred to me but I didn't know if that was the paranoia talking

It sure feels like I'm seeing Pavowski *behind* a lot of ideas but not giving a lot of his own ideas

VOTE: Pavowski
I do think I prefer this over cw because there's a possibility cw is being used as a townbeard. I agree with the points made that, if town, cw could be a liability in ELO given his tunneling hasn't stopped yet. Maybe it stops soon though if he is town?

Idk if it's stopped or not

We just need to vig cw

But I can support a Pav wagon

lol dragon knows that if I were to flip green by getting elim-ed he, hpe, and hu tao would suddenly be vig targets ahahahahahahah
very smart

Counter: I've been asking FL to vig me since he claimed vig

Also why would I want FL to vig Hu Tao, who I think is town?

[DragonEater70]

How is Kyouko town

How is she not? This feels like what she posts in every town game ever

Granted, I am way less sure about her than I am sure about Hu Tao and Purple

[DragonEater70]

Rather you shoot Dragon if you flip me/CW today but you do you boo

Maybe somebody can change my mind over the coming days, tho

I'm re-voting Dragon tomorrow

Shooting in dragon and and me seems terrible regardless of the vote today.

I think shooting Dragon is bad unless Pav flips scum, and even then only because Dragon seems like the only deepwolf candidate, and it's more because Pav didn't let the Dragon wagon sit at E-2, but he did let Laplacian sit at E-2. If Pav is scum it's hard to look away from scum!DE possibilities

I just also don't believe DE goes through this much effort as scum after that Normal game we just finished where he was scum - I think it was 2315. T3's "Flavorless Hell"

Shooting me as deepwolf after Pav flips scum - spicy!

The game was 2319 btw. FWIW I usually effort more as scum, but I absolutely HATE bussing early and being the only scum. So I just pretended that cursed game didn't exist and let town kill each other.

[DragonEater70]

I think it's {Pavowski} + 2 of {Joyboy, geraintm, Purplemango}. DE has deepwolf potential but I think the level of effort shown here is unlikely to come from scum given what I just saw from scum!DE a few weeks ago.

lol that's probbly vv/v/v/v/v lol no u

Dafuq
I don't think there's a single person except you that thinks that all of these can be town.

Hang on while I process how hard Kyo is trying not to let the CW wagon happen by casing me under the fkin planet

That's an interesting point

Let me think about it

UNVOTE: cw meanwhile

Why pav is scum?

Why ask only about Pavowski and not Hu Tao here?

I pretty much understood why hu tao was there, less about pavowski, and they talked about him more before that
makes sense to me in general to ask about something specific, and not about all the scumreads there were

This is a real thought from Purple.

[DragonEater70]

Btw here's Purple's only other game on this site which is a town game, just for comparison:

viewtopic.php?t=91644

[DragonEater70]

Flavor halp me

I can't read Gera

@Flavor

We need your help in these trying times

[geraintm]

(cw?, geraintm, joyboy?, flavor, myself, maybe DragonEater?) - players who reasonably could have found Thomith's cop crumb

It is not reasonable to expect me to find a crumb

[geraintm]

I'm at E-2
just hammer

not me, i have zero interest in eliminating you

[cw357]

just do it I hate playing against powerwolfs

[DragonEater70]

VOTE: Joyboy

[Flavor Leaf]

Joyboy is garbage fade today

[Flavor Leaf]

We’ve talked about that

[Flavor Leaf]

I want in Kyouko, CW, or Dragon today.

Locking that in.