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Roden He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Sorry if I'm being short with you but my fever has broken five times in the past week in a half and I'm too fatigued for this-
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Naerys sheMafia Scumshe
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Get well soonIn post 1600, Roden wrote: Sorry if I'm being short with you but my fever has broken five times in the past week in a half and I'm too fatigued for this-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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He has no desire to imagine a world I'm town, he's just pushing for the vote that helps scum out. Voting me out since I'm a potential clear in the future works against him. He wants me out asap.-
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Bingle Survivor
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In post 1583, Hu Tao wrote:
Ok. Let's try something different. If I was cleared right now as town. Who is scum and whyIn post 1580, Bingle wrote:
It's really cool how you respond consistently to things I don't say. I didn't say "Scum wagons are always hard" I said, "There's no reason that this wagon would be hard if it wasn't on scum." You've done nothing towny, and yet no one is willing to vote you. That's not a towntell.In post 1578, Hu Tao wrote:
Scum wagons aren't always hard. That's just nonsense.In post 1575, Bingle wrote:
If Hu Tao is town, why exactly is it so hard to get this wagon through despite there being no actual reason to townread her. Like, even Naerys here is townreading her because "Bingle was wrong last game, so he's probably just wrong again" as best I can tell. There's no town case there, and yet no one is willing to put there votes down with only 48 hours in the day.In post 1563, Celebloki wrote: I think Dunn has moved out of being scummy for me. Wiz gets a pass for the same reason I hope I'd get a pass for the day. I TR Thom and FL.
I'm sorry, were you lying?In post 1592, Bingle wrote: Bingle
Flavor Leaf
Dunnstral
SirCakez
Celebloki
AnimatedWiz
Thomith
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Roden
Hu Tao
Readslist."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Roden He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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It was basically this:In post 1598, Bingle wrote: Why do you town read her?
And I think there were multiple paths of least resistance she could've taken today and she instead chose to be a prominent figure.In post 904, Roden wrote: Also she was hard defending Gob to the point that she could easily be accused of TMI, and I think she would be more wary of that as scum-
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Roden He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Thank youIn post 1601, Naerys wrote:
Get well soonIn post 1600, Roden wrote: Sorry if I'm being short with you but my fever has broken five times in the past week in a half and I'm too fatigued for this-
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Bingle Survivor
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Your narrative is that I've decided to burn all of my towncred to kill a vanilla town on D2 as scum while simultaneously making nuanced reads on the majority of the playerlist because... You're scary? That requires me to think you have any skill at mafia.
I've talked about all of my reads. They're not dependent on me being right on you. I'm not going to rehash them because that's a great way to not get an elimination with 2 days left until deadline. But keep flailing about for a reason to suspect me when it very clearly is "Bingle has caught me.""He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Roden He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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There's also this. This imo spews a townie mindset, because scum knows town can't get an inno result on them and can't interpret somebody's posts as softing a secret inno result.In post 1360, Hu Tao wrote:
Oh.. awkward. I thought someone else softed an innocent on me. But if you had that, why would you be willing to compromise a vote on me? Also this likely means a scum in Cele and Wiz. I don't see town having both? I'll think this overIn post 1335, AnimatedWiz wrote: I would definitely prefer to not be the wagon today for obvious reasons, but I really don’t understand the push for me.
Anyway, I’m not going to just sit around and die.
I’m theTown Role Cop, and Hu Tao is a vanilla role. Part of the reason I’m pushing Celebloki is due to doubt about there being two Town investigative roles—does that explain my push on them better?-
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Bingle Survivor
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You mean the path of least resistance that was the Dunn wagon that I fought down? Y'know, the one she sheeped onto?In post 1604, Roden wrote: And I think there were multiple paths of least resistance she could've taken today and she instead chose to be a prominent figure."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Bingle Survivor
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I agree that either she's lying about someone softing an inno on her or town. I just don't see why vague "oh someone might have an inno on me" posts is a thing scum wouldn't lie about.In post 1607, Roden wrote: There's also this. This imo spews a townie mindset, because scum knows town can't get an inno result on them and can't interpret somebody's posts as softing a secret inno result."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Roden He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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This is not a good "gotcha" because multiple people went onto that wagonIn post 1608, Bingle wrote:
You mean the path of least resistance that was the Dunn wagon that I fought down? Y'know, the one she sheeped onto?In post 1604, Roden wrote: And I think there were multiple paths of least resistance she could've taken today and she instead chose to be a prominent figure.-
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Bingle Survivor
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Like, that's the same as this. It's a baseless "Well there's no way there's three goons so we shouldn't vote me" claim that has no real reason to be taken seriously. How does vt Hu know enough about the setup at this point to make this assertion? Why does vt Hu Tao think we're going to lim 2 goons quickly?In post 1365, Hu Tao wrote: It means I'm vanilla townie or mafia goon. If anything I think there is at most 2 goons. So if we get rid of 2 goons I'm pretty much a pseudo clear"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Bingle Survivor
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What do you mean it's not a good "gotcha"? It's not a gotcha at all. It's literally her doing the opposite of the thing you say you're town reading her for.In post 1610, Roden wrote:
This is not a good "gotcha" because multiple people went onto that wagonIn post 1608, Bingle wrote:
You mean the path of least resistance that was the Dunn wagon that I fought down? Y'know, the one she sheeped onto?In post 1604, Roden wrote: And I think there were multiple paths of least resistance she could've taken today and she instead chose to be a prominent figure."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Roden He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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You just said you don't think she's good at playing scum...this is a complex thought process and would require her to fake something that would be very unintuitive and uncommon to fakeIn post 1609, Bingle wrote:
I agree that either she's lying about someone softing an inno on her or town. I just don't see why vague "oh someone might have an inno on me" posts is a thing scum wouldn't lie about.In post 1607, Roden wrote: There's also this. This imo spews a townie mindset, because scum knows town can't get an inno result on them and can't interpret somebody's posts as softing a secret inno result.-
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Roden He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Because I disagree.In post 1612, Bingle wrote:
What do you mean it's not a good "gotcha"? It's not a gotcha at all. It's literally her doing the opposite of the thing you say you're town reading her for.In post 1610, Roden wrote:
This is not a good "gotcha" because multiple people went onto that wagonIn post 1608, Bingle wrote:
You mean the path of least resistance that was the Dunn wagon that I fought down? Y'know, the one she sheeped onto?In post 1604, Roden wrote: And I think there were multiple paths of least resistance she could've taken today and she instead chose to be a prominent figure.-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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Bingle have we played together before?-
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Bingle Survivor
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You disagree that the dunn wagon was the path of least resistance?In post 1614, Roden wrote: Because I disagree."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Bingle Survivor
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Not to the best of my knowledge, but I've seen your play as an informed spectator (Booneytoonz) and am not particularly impressed.In post 1615, Hu Tao wrote: Bingle have we played together before?"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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Okay that's fair. That is the game I replaced in I think? And I was scum there?-
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Bingle Survivor
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I didn't specify that she's bad at scum. I believe she's too self oriented to be good at the game in general. That has nothing to do with complex strategies, just personality.In post 1613, Roden wrote: You just said you don't think she's good at playing scum"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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to be fair, Hu Tao replaced late into that BooneyToonz game and it was a doozy with all the Millers.
And Hu Tao, while known not to explain their reads often, does have solid gut reads.
But they've also been actively playing in a standoffish way the past few months, trying something new with the playstyle.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Bingle Survivor
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I was actually thinking the Jester game, but yeah, I was in that one as a player.In post 1618, Hu Tao wrote: Okay that's fair. That is the game I replaced in I think? And I was scum there?
Played from the start as town in a vote for town setup. Best bet would be to assume I'm aware of you by reputation, but not much else."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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they were town in both, i think.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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This is a fair criticism. I think it started from when I went on vacation and didn't have enough time to play and it carried over to the holidays. I'll try to change this though going forward.In post 1619, Bingle wrote:
I didn't specify that she's bad at scum. I believe she's too self oriented to be good at the game in general. That has nothing to do with complex strategies, just personality.In post 1613, Roden wrote: You just said you don't think she's good at playing scum-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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Okay now that I understand where bingle is getting this from. I think I'd rather cakes today.
VOTE: Cakez
I can see bingle being annoyed by my play and tunneling for that reason. I still think that based on that I shouldn't just auto be scum here.
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