Mini 2321: Classic Commercials (Postgame)

[Roden]

Sorry if I'm being short with you but my fever has broken five times in the past week in a half and I'm too fatigued for this

[Naerys]

Sorry if I'm being short with you but my fever has broken five times in the past week in a half and I'm too fatigued for this

Get well soon

[Hu Tao]

He has no desire to imagine a world I'm town, he's just pushing for the vote that helps scum out. Voting me out since I'm a potential clear in the future works against him. He wants me out asap.

[Bingle]

I think Dunn has moved out of being scummy for me. Wiz gets a pass for the same reason I hope I'd get a pass for the day. I TR Thom and FL.

If Hu Tao is town, why exactly is it so hard to get this wagon through despite there being no actual reason to townread her. Like, even Naerys here is townreading her because "Bingle was wrong last game, so he's probably just wrong again" as best I can tell. There's no town case there, and yet no one is willing to put there votes down with only 48 hours in the day.

Scum wagons aren't always hard. That's just nonsense.

It's really cool how you respond consistently to things I don't say. I didn't say "Scum wagons are always hard" I said, "There's no reason that this wagon would be hard if it wasn't on scum." You've done nothing towny, and yet no one is willing to vote you. That's not a towntell.

Ok. Let's try something different. If I was cleared right now as town. Who is scum and why

Bingle
Flavor Leaf
Dunnstral
SirCakez
Celebloki
AnimatedWiz
Thomith


Naerys
RCEnigma
Roden
Hu Tao

Readslist.

I'm sorry, were you lying?

[Roden]

Why do you town read her?

It was basically this:

Also she was hard defending Gob to the point that she could easily be accused of TMI, and I think she would be more wary of that as scum

And I think there were multiple paths of least resistance she could've taken today and she instead chose to be a prominent figure.

[Roden]

Sorry if I'm being short with you but my fever has broken five times in the past week in a half and I'm too fatigued for this

Get well soon

Thank you

[Bingle]

Your narrative is that I've decided to burn all of my towncred to kill a vanilla town on D2 as scum while simultaneously making nuanced reads on the majority of the playerlist because... You're scary? That requires me to think you have any skill at mafia.

I've talked about all of my reads. They're not dependent on me being right on you. I'm not going to rehash them because that's a great way to not get an elimination with 2 days left until deadline. But keep flailing about for a reason to suspect me when it very clearly is "Bingle has caught me."

[Roden]

I would definitely prefer to not be the wagon today for obvious reasons, but I really don’t understand the push for me.

Anyway, I’m not going to just sit around and die.

I’m the

Town Role Cop

, and Hu Tao is a vanilla role. Part of the reason I’m pushing Celebloki is due to doubt about there being two Town investigative roles—does that explain my push on them better?

Oh.. awkward. I thought someone else softed an innocent on me. But if you had that, why would you be willing to compromise a vote on me? Also this likely means a scum in Cele and Wiz. I don't see town having both? I'll think this over

There's also this. This imo spews a townie mindset, because scum knows town can't get an inno result on them and can't interpret somebody's posts as softing a secret inno result.

[Bingle]

And I think there were multiple paths of least resistance she could've taken today and she instead chose to be a prominent figure.

You mean the path of least resistance that was the Dunn wagon that I fought down? Y'know, the one she sheeped onto?

[Bingle]

There's also this. This imo spews a townie mindset, because scum knows town can't get an inno result on them and can't interpret somebody's posts as softing a secret inno result.

I agree that either she's lying about someone softing an inno on her or town. I just don't see why vague "oh someone might have an inno on me" posts is a thing scum wouldn't lie about.

[Roden]

And I think there were multiple paths of least resistance she could've taken today and she instead chose to be a prominent figure.

You mean the path of least resistance that was the Dunn wagon that I fought down? Y'know, the one she sheeped onto?

This is not a good "gotcha" because multiple people went onto that wagon

[Bingle]

It means I'm vanilla townie or mafia goon. If anything I think there is at most 2 goons. So if we get rid of 2 goons I'm pretty much a pseudo clear

Like, that's the same as this. It's a baseless "Well there's no way there's three goons so we shouldn't vote me" claim that has no real reason to be taken seriously. How does vt Hu know enough about the setup at this point to make this assertion? Why does vt Hu Tao think we're going to lim 2 goons quickly?

[Bingle]

And I think there were multiple paths of least resistance she could've taken today and she instead chose to be a prominent figure.

You mean the path of least resistance that was the Dunn wagon that I fought down? Y'know, the one she sheeped onto?

This is not a good "gotcha" because multiple people went onto that wagon

What do you mean it's not a good "gotcha"? It's not a gotcha at all. It's literally her doing the opposite of the thing you say you're town reading her for.

[Roden]

There's also this. This imo spews a townie mindset, because scum knows town can't get an inno result on them and can't interpret somebody's posts as softing a secret inno result.

I agree that either she's lying about someone softing an inno on her or town. I just don't see why vague "oh someone might have an inno on me" posts is a thing scum wouldn't lie about.

You just said you don't think she's good at playing scum...this is a complex thought process and would require her to fake something that would be very unintuitive and uncommon to fake

[Roden]

And I think there were multiple paths of least resistance she could've taken today and she instead chose to be a prominent figure.

You mean the path of least resistance that was the Dunn wagon that I fought down? Y'know, the one she sheeped onto?

This is not a good "gotcha" because multiple people went onto that wagon

What do you mean it's not a good "gotcha"? It's not a gotcha at all. It's literally her doing the opposite of the thing you say you're town reading her for.

Because I disagree.

[Hu Tao]

Bingle have we played together before?

[Bingle]

Because I disagree.

You disagree that the dunn wagon was the path of least resistance?

[Bingle]

Bingle have we played together before?

Not to the best of my knowledge, but I've seen your play as an informed spectator (Booneytoonz) and am not particularly impressed.

[Hu Tao]

Okay that's fair. That is the game I replaced in I think? And I was scum there?

[Bingle]

You just said you don't think she's good at playing scum

I didn't specify that she's bad at scum. I believe she's too self oriented to be good at the game in general. That has nothing to do with complex strategies, just personality.

[Flavor Leaf]

to be fair, Hu Tao replaced late into that BooneyToonz game and it was a doozy with all the Millers.

And Hu Tao, while known not to explain their reads often, does have solid gut reads.

But they've also been actively playing in a standoffish way the past few months, trying something new with the playstyle.

[Bingle]

Okay that's fair. That is the game I replaced in I think? And I was scum there?

I was actually thinking the Jester game, but yeah, I was in that one as a player.

Played from the start as town in a vote for town setup. Best bet would be to assume I'm aware of you by reputation, but not much else.

[Flavor Leaf]

they were town in both, i think.

[Hu Tao]

You just said you don't think she's good at playing scum

I didn't specify that she's bad at scum. I believe she's too self oriented to be good at the game in general. That has nothing to do with complex strategies, just personality.

This is a fair criticism. I think it started from when I went on vacation and didn't have enough time to play and it carried over to the holidays. I'll try to change this though going forward.

[Hu Tao]

Okay now that I understand where bingle is getting this from. I think I'd rather cakes today.

VOTE: Cakez

I can see bingle being annoyed by my play and tunneling for that reason. I still think that based on that I shouldn't just auto be scum here.