Mini 2321: Classic Commercials (Postgame)

[Hu Tao]

I think it would be a bit lame to use their thought of me as an excuse though as scum, so they are probably town.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Cakez

[Flavor Leaf]

You just said you don't think she's good at playing scum

I didn't specify that she's bad at scum. I believe she's too self oriented to be good at the game in general. That has nothing to do with complex strategies, just personality.

This is a fair criticism. I think it started from when I went on vacation and didn't have enough time to play and it carried over to the holidays. I'll try to change this though going forward.

In my traitor game, you had the right read there, but didn't give any reasonings for the read. I do think it would have been hard, but this followed into that game you were Masons, and we were on the verge of victory. You needed my vote to fade Firebringer, and didnt give any reasonings there either, when I was even making some, but I needed to be convinced, that back and forth, otherwise just felt like you were walling. We had Dann too, and really was in a situation where we just needed to get a flip or go further into black hole circular arguments.

I think we are in a similar situation here, where we need a flip to progress, so I'm happy with Cakez.

[Hu Tao]

Yeah. I've been given that criticism a few times, so I definitely need to change. I'll just try to be more open in my thoughts I guess.

[Hu Tao]

To me it seems like cakez hasn't been trying to figure out my alignment and has just been quoting posts saying that I'm scummy without trying to ask questions or get my point of view

[Hu Tao]

I can't see the town thoughts driving Hu Tao's posts. FL is right that it looks like they are just writing whatever gets them in a better position rather then legitimate scumhunting

I remove FL from prob town to not sure anymore.

This just seems fake AF to me

I can't see the town thoughts driving Hu Tao's posts. FL is right that it looks like they are just writing whatever gets them in a better position rather then legitimate scumhunting

What posts are putting me in a better position

Like the post I just quoted, it looks like you're dropping FL in your reads so you can fling stuff back at him more easily

Like here, he never tried to get where I was coming from before voting. It didn't seem like he was asking any questions before coming to the conclusion that I'm scum

[Flavor Leaf]

Cakez, Bingle, Flavor

who else pushed you during that time?

[Hu Tao]

I'm not sure. I think it was mainly you 3. Anyone else?

[Dunnstral]

I am unsure on who the mafia are. Not confident SirCakez is one but not against it. I feel against Hu Tao or Bingle.

[Roden]

Because I disagree.

You disagree that the dunn wagon was the path of least resistance?

Yes. If it was then it would've gone through. It wasn't a good wagon though.

You just said you don't think she's good at playing scum

I didn't specify that she's bad at scum. I believe she's too self oriented to be good at the game in general. That has nothing to do with complex strategies, just personality.

Ah.

[Celebloki]

So who can we actually get consensus on, cause it seems like there is no one really in common with everyone.

I think I could be behind a vote in Bingle, Hu Tao, Cakez, or RCE. I think Bingle or Hu Tao (maybe Cakez) gives the most information. RCE has a good chance of being scum but hasn't given anything to do any association analysis with.

[Roden]

Multiple people just voted Cakez.

[DragonEater70]

flavor

VC 2.09

Votecount 2.09

SirCakez (3): Roden, Hu Tao, Flavor Leaf
Hu Tao (1): Bingle
Bingle (1): AnimatedWiz
Naerys (1): Celebloki
RCEnigma (1): Naerys

Not voting (4): RCEnigma, Dunnstral, SirCakez, Thomith

It takes 6 votes to eliminate someone.

Deadline:

(expired on 2023-12-30 00:59:40)

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Combined mod ISO: here.

[Hu Tao]

Oh we have less than a day

[Thomith]

VOTE: Cakez

I'm okay with this or RCE I think.

[AnimatedWiz]

I’m fine with Cakez as well—not as much information will be gained, but I do think it’ll be accurate, at least.

VOTE: SirCakez.

E-1.

[Hu Tao]

We should wait for a claim.

[Hu Tao]

UNVOTE:

I'll be back before deadline dw

[Flavor Leaf]

We hammer even if they claim PR.

[Flavor Leaf]

20 hours until deadline, they claim PR 100% of the time if scum here and we scramble.

[SirCakez]

Can we just flip Cakez

Flipping Hu Tao or Bingle makes no sense if we're against flipping Celeb today, because their alignments are tied to Celeb and Wiz and may become more clear once/if they act tonight

Terrible take

[SirCakez]

Omg this game

[SirCakez]

I'm a VT

[SirCakez]

This is so shit, why am I suddenly the wagon here? What is the info obtained from flipping me here? Literally nothing. It was already agreed by like multiple people that we need to get rid of Hu Tao, Bingle or one of the PR claims to actually work on solving this game.
This feels so scum driven

[SirCakez]

To me it seems like cakez hasn't been trying to figure out my alignment and has just been quoting posts saying that I'm scummy without trying to ask questions or get my point of view

You have basically been engaging with me hostilely from the start. I don't know how I could have even approached you in that manner.