Mini 2321: Classic Commercials (Postgame)

[Elements]

Bloop

[SirCakez]

I'm guessing one of the town Invest claims is scum and the other one is town + a jail keeper/role locker, versus a scum investigative + goons makes sense

[SirCakez]

I am unsure on who the mafia are. Not confident SirCakez is one but not against it. I feel against Hu Tao or Bingle.

Dunn has also expressed being anti wagon on either Hu or Bingle

[Bingle]

I'm guessing one of the town Invest claims is scum and the other one is town + a jail keeper/role locker, versus a scum investigative + goons makes sense

Sure, but the takeaway here is that if my take on the game is accurate and scum hasn't seen what I've seen, me dying isn't actually unlikely.

[Flavor Leaf]

You wanna push a Bingle or Hu Tao, then do it, and stop the woe is me card.

I’ll fade a woe is me as a compromise if they’re an IC to get through the next day.

(Maybe not an IC, but the hyperbole felt valid)

I can't see myself alone being able to swing the momentum, there are too many apathetic/hostile slots towards me incl Roden, Wiz, Thomith

Good thing this ain’t a single player game

[Flavor Leaf]

Bingle, you defended Celebloki way too much to think that could be a scum Neap

[Bingle]

Bingle, you defended Celebloki way too much to think that could be a scum Neap

I don't think that Celebloki is a scum Neap. I think that it's reasonable for someone to think that one of Celeb and Wiz is scum, which is a whole other kettle of fish.

[Flavor Leaf]

Bingle, you defended Celebloki way too much to think that could be a scum Neap

I don't think that Celebloki is a scum Neap. I think that it's reasonable for someone to think that one of Celeb and Wiz is scum, which is a whole other kettle of fish.

What do you think of Dunn’s thought then that town is still too weak without another investigative role even with those 2 roles?

[Bingle]

Like... rolecop/neap is very weak town investigation and if scum has a blocker that's just painfully low power.

If neap is scum, we necessarily have another invest.

If blocker is town, we have the blocker as another invest.

Basically, town is confirmed to have another invest role.

[Flavor Leaf]

Eh, idk i don’t think we need another investigative in the setup, even with scum blocker.

There can be other roles. Dont always need investigative

[Bingle]

I think something like Neap/RC/BG/Roleblocker vs Goon/PR/PR is reasonable, especially if the PRs aren't outright guilties.

I think RC as scum with a stronger investigation (ungated tracker level) and the block source as town is reasonable.

I think Neap as scum fakeclaiming (probably a vanilla cop) and no blocker is reasonable.

I have strong thoughts about what the actual world we live in is, PR wise, but I think it's a bad idea to share them prior to night phase because it might help inform the kill, which I DON'T want.

[Bingle]

There can be other roles. Dont always need investigative

Most roles used correctly can be investigative in nature.

[Flavor Leaf]

Sure, but they aren’t labeled as ‘investigative’. I would almost push it more as gives information.

[Flavor Leaf]

So let’s end on Cakez and call it a day.

[Roden]

If Roden and I were scum together, there’d have been a fade already.

I mean... I doubt it? I've been the biggest roadblock to your mutual pushes, and I don't suddenly become less so a roadblock if you're scum. Still town FL energy here though.

I've been one of the biggest roadblocks to your elim. If I wanted you gone for being in my way then you'd just be gone.

[Roden]

Wagon starting Roden is generally a town Roden

Leaf, this is a bizarre take. Roden has started literally one wagon and has been voting on established wagons exclusively other than that. Like... He followed me onto gob and then stayed there all of D1. He pushed Dunn AFTER calling dunn town and my defense there, with nothing in the interim really explaining why he went from the soft defense of

I think Dunn is the type of player to favor responding to quote pings as scum vs posting individual thoughts that aren't meant for anyone in particular. His activity is a little low, but he's had a mix of responding to people while also doing his own thing. He's also posting plenty of thoughts and why he scum reads certain slots, so I'm not super sold on scum!Dunn.

I'll go over my hammer again... I didn't believe the doctor claim. Leaving gob alive gives other players a chance to unvote gob, which reveals them as not doctor to mafia. Hammering gob also makes mafia think I could be a pr like doctor due to my hammer.

solid rehearsed reasoning.

UNVOTE: Dunnstral

either way, im okay with going over other options for sure.

I like this unvote.

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VOTE: Dunn

especially in the middle of roden softly agreeing that Celeb was sketch for being willing to be wagoned. Then he spent like 5 posts justifying a celeb scumread to himself before putting celeb at E-1 and immediately unvoting when it was noted that was E-1.

You're like the third person to bring up my Dunn vote and then not even ask why I voted Dunn

[Roden]

I'm guessing one of the town Invest claims is scum and the other one is town + a jail keeper/role locker, versus a scum investigative + goons makes sense

See I actually agree with this. I'd prefer a Celeb elim over you, you aren't my first choice.

[Dunnstral]

Why did you voted Dunn?

[Roden]

To scare people off your wagon because it was a bad wagon

[Dunnstral]

That is some wild reasoning.

[Roden]

Do you think I'm making it up

[Flavor Leaf]

Dunn wagon was totally fine at start of the day. It made sense to pressure there, and we got a lot out of it.

[AnimatedWiz]

I don't think that Celebloki is a scum Neap. I think that it's reasonable for someone to think that one of Celeb and Wiz is scum, which is a whole other kettle of fish.

I think RC as scum with a stronger investigation (ungated tracker level) and the block source as town is reasonable.

I think Neap as scum fakeclaiming (probably a vanilla cop) and no blocker is reasonable.

I have strong thoughts about what the actual world we live in is, PR wise, but I think it's a bad idea to share them prior to night phase because it might help inform the kill, which I DON'T want.

Do you think the world where I’m Mafia Role Cop is likelier than the world where me and Celebloki are both town? Because it doesn’t seem like you’re considering Celebloki to be the possible scum in our duo.

[SirCakez]

I'm guessing one of the town Invest claims is scum and the other one is town + a jail keeper/role locker, versus a scum investigative + goons makes sense

See I actually agree with this. I'd prefer a Celeb elim over you, you aren't my first choice.

I feel like you have not been pushing this as much at all?

[Roden]

Are you joking