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[Pavowski]

Do you even have a read on me HPE, or are you just saying this to discredit Flavor?

Also do you have a read on Hu Tao?

This one's had you as solid town for a while, partly because its a little wary of jumping to conclusions about you and forming a bad scumread like it has in a past few games. HT is still null and considering the circumstances that makes her closer to a scumlean because actually not being able to read her is terrifying?

Lowkey gera/pav/HT scumteam seems viable but it doesn't wanna overlook slots like you and purple either.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who still feels this way about HT at this point, I continue to be baffled that people townread that slot, let alone strongly townread

Unless you're scum discrediting in which case I'm annoyed that I'm agreeing with you, even though I do agree with you

Probably since they have more experience with me than you. This is our first game together right?

Me and you? Pretty sure this is our first game together.

[Pavowski]

@Pav - I don’t see the Gamma/HPE split and why it couldn’t be both

The Gamma/HPE split isn't because only one could be scum between them, it's because (given my dubious wagon- and game- logic) I expect to find 2 scum in the other groups I listed, leaving one to be found between the two of them

[DragonEater70]

Now that Gamma has educated me on the ways of properly using a spoiler tag:

Spoiler: Wagons

EOD 1 Wagon

Votecount 1.6

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 07:27:34).

Votecount

Laplacian (7)

- ssbm_kyouko, Abnegation, Pavowski, HighPrincessErinys, geraintm, DragonEater70, Flavor Leaf

Joyboy (2)

- cw357, Hu Tao

cw357 (1)

- Joyboy

HighPrincessErinys (1)

- Laplacian

Not Voting (2)

- Purplemango, Thomith

MID D2 Wagon

Votecount 2.3

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 19:46:41).

Votecount

cw357 (3)

- cw357, HighPrincessErinys, Hu Tao

geraintm (1)

- Joyboy

Pavowski (1)

- ssbm_Kyouko

ssbm_Kyouko (2)

- Flavor Leaf, DragonEater70

Not Voting (4)

- geraintm, Pavowski, Purplemango

LATE D2 Wagon

Votecount 2.7

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 19:46:41).

Votecount

ssbm_Kyouko (4)

- Flavor Leaf, HighPrincessErinys, Hu Tao, cw357

HighPrincessErinys (1)

- ssbm_Kyouko

cw357 (1)

- Gamma Emerald

Not Voting (4)

- geraintm, Purplemango, DragonEater70, Pavowski

[/area]

EOD 2 Wagon

Votecount 2.10

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 19:46:41).

Votecount

ssbm_Kyouko (6)

- Flavor Leaf, HighPrincessErinys, Pavowski, Hu Tao, cw357, Gamma Emerald

Gamma Emerald (2)

- DragonEater70, ssbm_Kyouko

Not Voting (3)

- geraintm, Purplemango

On both elimination wagons: Pav, HPE, Flavor
On Lap wagon only: Gera, Dragon, +2 dead townies
On Kyouko wagon only: Hu Tao, CW, Gamma

The other wagon d1 was HPE: Dragon, Hu Tao, Flavor
The other wagon d2 was CW: Dragon, HPE, Hu Tao

Absolute speculation begins here.

Spoiler: Speculation and Vibes

Here are my bad wagonomics thoughts.

I really don't think Dragon/Hu Tao are paired here. They're both off the elimination wagon on the same alternate target before one of them gets on the lim wagon d1 and the other gets on d2. Hu Tao looks worse for my money given the move from CW to Kyouko (especially if CW turns up scum).

Is it weird that HPE is nearly wagoned d1 and ends up on the lim wagon both days? ehhh. D1 wagons are chaotic and fleeting. I still townvibe that one even though we're probably past the point where I should be reading based on feel

Gamma with the hammer d2 has the benefit of coming in and doing a thorough catch-up and then dropping the hammer, despite professing wants to vote elsewhere. Feels towny. I think the slot is towny on balance, too

Gera's vote may as well have been RVS, never votes d2
Purple never votes period
CW is what CW is, notably after facing down elim on d2 they join the yeet wagon even though they're pretty vocal in thinking kyo is town
These three slots have *got* to contain at least one scum. On effort and d2 happenings it could be CW but wouldn't surprise me even a little bit if it's in the others. Though I will reiterate what I've said earlier that if Purple is scum I don't think DE is). If these three by some twist of fate are scum together, then fuck this game. If they're all town, also fuck this game.

I think Dragon/Hu Tao has one scum (rather vote Hu, though from an information standpoint Dragon probably gives us more)

HPE/Gamma don't seem to affect each other the way Dragon/HT or Dragon/Purple do in my weird conjectures but process of elimination would tell me there's one here

tl;dr, and no, I am not betting on this:
1 in Gera,Purple,CW
1 in Dragon/Hu Tao
1 in Gamma/HPE

I wonder if the CW wagon yesterday was on the mark.

VOTE: CW

Nahhh I don't think anybody is going cw today

Let's kill the scumsters

Unless FL was right about Team Rocket in which case I'm fine with you bussing, but I still wanna kill HPE before we go for Meowth.

[Pavowski]

Now that Gamma has educated me on the ways of properly using a spoiler tag:

Spoiler: Wagons

EOD 1 Wagon

Votecount 1.6

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 07:27:34).

Votecount

Laplacian (7)

- ssbm_kyouko, Abnegation, Pavowski, HighPrincessErinys, geraintm, DragonEater70, Flavor Leaf

Joyboy (2)

- cw357, Hu Tao

cw357 (1)

- Joyboy

HighPrincessErinys (1)

- Laplacian

Not Voting (2)

- Purplemango, Thomith

MID D2 Wagon

Votecount 2.3

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 19:46:41).

Votecount

cw357 (3)

- cw357, HighPrincessErinys, Hu Tao

geraintm (1)

- Joyboy

Pavowski (1)

- ssbm_Kyouko

ssbm_Kyouko (2)

- Flavor Leaf, DragonEater70

Not Voting (4)

- geraintm, Pavowski, Purplemango

LATE D2 Wagon

Votecount 2.7

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 19:46:41).

Votecount

ssbm_Kyouko (4)

- Flavor Leaf, HighPrincessErinys, Hu Tao, cw357

HighPrincessErinys (1)

- ssbm_Kyouko

cw357 (1)

- Gamma Emerald

Not Voting (4)

- geraintm, Purplemango, DragonEater70, Pavowski

[/area]

EOD 2 Wagon

Votecount 2.10

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 19:46:41).

Votecount

ssbm_Kyouko (6)

- Flavor Leaf, HighPrincessErinys, Pavowski, Hu Tao, cw357, Gamma Emerald

Gamma Emerald (2)

- DragonEater70, ssbm_Kyouko

Not Voting (3)

- geraintm, Purplemango

On both elimination wagons: Pav, HPE, Flavor
On Lap wagon only: Gera, Dragon, +2 dead townies
On Kyouko wagon only: Hu Tao, CW, Gamma

The other wagon d1 was HPE: Dragon, Hu Tao, Flavor
The other wagon d2 was CW: Dragon, HPE, Hu Tao

Absolute speculation begins here.

Spoiler: Speculation and Vibes

Here are my bad wagonomics thoughts.

I really don't think Dragon/Hu Tao are paired here. They're both off the elimination wagon on the same alternate target before one of them gets on the lim wagon d1 and the other gets on d2. Hu Tao looks worse for my money given the move from CW to Kyouko (especially if CW turns up scum).

Is it weird that HPE is nearly wagoned d1 and ends up on the lim wagon both days? ehhh. D1 wagons are chaotic and fleeting. I still townvibe that one even though we're probably past the point where I should be reading based on feel

Gamma with the hammer d2 has the benefit of coming in and doing a thorough catch-up and then dropping the hammer, despite professing wants to vote elsewhere. Feels towny. I think the slot is towny on balance, too

Gera's vote may as well have been RVS, never votes d2
Purple never votes period
CW is what CW is, notably after facing down elim on d2 they join the yeet wagon even though they're pretty vocal in thinking kyo is town
These three slots have *got* to contain at least one scum. On effort and d2 happenings it could be CW but wouldn't surprise me even a little bit if it's in the others. Though I will reiterate what I've said earlier that if Purple is scum I don't think DE is). If these three by some twist of fate are scum together, then fuck this game. If they're all town, also fuck this game.

I think Dragon/Hu Tao has one scum (rather vote Hu, though from an information standpoint Dragon probably gives us more)

HPE/Gamma don't seem to affect each other the way Dragon/HT or Dragon/Purple do in my weird conjectures but process of elimination would tell me there's one here

tl;dr, and no, I am not betting on this:
1 in Gera,Purple,CW
1 in Dragon/Hu Tao
1 in Gamma/HPE

I wonder if the CW wagon yesterday was on the mark.

VOTE: CW

Nahhh I don't think anybody is going cw today

Let's kill the scumsters

Unless FL was right about Team Rocket in which case I'm fine with you bussing, but I still wanna kill HPE before we go for Meowth.

I thought I was Meowth in that exercise

[DragonEater70]

So yeah, Hu Tao/Dragon/FL town core.

Let's gooooo

High five, sis!

@HT I'm still waiting for my high five.

[DragonEater70]

Now that Gamma has educated me on the ways of properly using a spoiler tag:

Spoiler: Wagons

EOD 1 Wagon

Votecount 1.6

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 07:27:34).

Votecount

Laplacian (7)

- ssbm_kyouko, Abnegation, Pavowski, HighPrincessErinys, geraintm, DragonEater70, Flavor Leaf

Joyboy (2)

- cw357, Hu Tao

cw357 (1)

- Joyboy

HighPrincessErinys (1)

- Laplacian

Not Voting (2)

- Purplemango, Thomith

MID D2 Wagon

Votecount 2.3

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 19:46:41).

Votecount

cw357 (3)

- cw357, HighPrincessErinys, Hu Tao

geraintm (1)

- Joyboy

Pavowski (1)

- ssbm_Kyouko

ssbm_Kyouko (2)

- Flavor Leaf, DragonEater70

Not Voting (4)

- geraintm, Pavowski, Purplemango

LATE D2 Wagon

Votecount 2.7

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 19:46:41).

Votecount

ssbm_Kyouko (4)

- Flavor Leaf, HighPrincessErinys, Hu Tao, cw357

HighPrincessErinys (1)

- ssbm_Kyouko

cw357 (1)

- Gamma Emerald

Not Voting (4)

- geraintm, Purplemango, DragonEater70, Pavowski

[/area]

EOD 2 Wagon

Votecount 2.10

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 19:46:41).

Votecount

ssbm_Kyouko (6)

- Flavor Leaf, HighPrincessErinys, Pavowski, Hu Tao, cw357, Gamma Emerald

Gamma Emerald (2)

- DragonEater70, ssbm_Kyouko

Not Voting (3)

- geraintm, Purplemango

On both elimination wagons: Pav, HPE, Flavor
On Lap wagon only: Gera, Dragon, +2 dead townies
On Kyouko wagon only: Hu Tao, CW, Gamma

The other wagon d1 was HPE: Dragon, Hu Tao, Flavor
The other wagon d2 was CW: Dragon, HPE, Hu Tao

Absolute speculation begins here.

Spoiler: Speculation and Vibes

Here are my bad wagonomics thoughts.

I really don't think Dragon/Hu Tao are paired here. They're both off the elimination wagon on the same alternate target before one of them gets on the lim wagon d1 and the other gets on d2. Hu Tao looks worse for my money given the move from CW to Kyouko (especially if CW turns up scum).

Is it weird that HPE is nearly wagoned d1 and ends up on the lim wagon both days? ehhh. D1 wagons are chaotic and fleeting. I still townvibe that one even though we're probably past the point where I should be reading based on feel

Gamma with the hammer d2 has the benefit of coming in and doing a thorough catch-up and then dropping the hammer, despite professing wants to vote elsewhere. Feels towny. I think the slot is towny on balance, too

Gera's vote may as well have been RVS, never votes d2
Purple never votes period
CW is what CW is, notably after facing down elim on d2 they join the yeet wagon even though they're pretty vocal in thinking kyo is town
These three slots have *got* to contain at least one scum. On effort and d2 happenings it could be CW but wouldn't surprise me even a little bit if it's in the others. Though I will reiterate what I've said earlier that if Purple is scum I don't think DE is). If these three by some twist of fate are scum together, then fuck this game. If they're all town, also fuck this game.

I think Dragon/Hu Tao has one scum (rather vote Hu, though from an information standpoint Dragon probably gives us more)

HPE/Gamma don't seem to affect each other the way Dragon/HT or Dragon/Purple do in my weird conjectures but process of elimination would tell me there's one here

tl;dr, and no, I am not betting on this:
1 in Gera,Purple,CW
1 in Dragon/Hu Tao
1 in Gamma/HPE

I wonder if the CW wagon yesterday was on the mark.

VOTE: CW

Nahhh I don't think anybody is going cw today

Let's kill the scumsters

Unless FL was right about Team Rocket in which case I'm fine with you bussing, but I still wanna kill HPE before we go for Meowth.

I thought I was Meowth in that exercise

Wait what

I'm really confused by how that would work

[Pavowski]

To be fair I don't really think CW is happening today either but you have to speak your dreams into existence

[Hu Tao]

I'm still fine with hpe today. FL you okay with this?

[Hu Tao]

So yeah, Hu Tao/Dragon/FL town core.

Let's gooooo

High five, sis!

@HT I'm still waiting for my high five.

🖐

[Pavowski]

Now that Gamma has educated me on the ways of properly using a spoiler tag:

Spoiler: Wagons

EOD 1 Wagon

Votecount 1.6

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 07:27:34).

Votecount

Laplacian (7)

- ssbm_kyouko, Abnegation, Pavowski, HighPrincessErinys, geraintm, DragonEater70, Flavor Leaf

Joyboy (2)

- cw357, Hu Tao

cw357 (1)

- Joyboy

HighPrincessErinys (1)

- Laplacian

Not Voting (2)

- Purplemango, Thomith

MID D2 Wagon

Votecount 2.3

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 19:46:41).

Votecount

cw357 (3)

- cw357, HighPrincessErinys, Hu Tao

geraintm (1)

- Joyboy

Pavowski (1)

- ssbm_Kyouko

ssbm_Kyouko (2)

- Flavor Leaf, DragonEater70

Not Voting (4)

- geraintm, Pavowski, Purplemango

LATE D2 Wagon

Votecount 2.7

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 19:46:41).

Votecount

ssbm_Kyouko (4)

- Flavor Leaf, HighPrincessErinys, Hu Tao, cw357

HighPrincessErinys (1)

- ssbm_Kyouko

cw357 (1)

- Gamma Emerald

Not Voting (4)

- geraintm, Purplemango, DragonEater70, Pavowski

[/area]

EOD 2 Wagon

Votecount 2.10

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 19:46:41).

Votecount

ssbm_Kyouko (6)

- Flavor Leaf, HighPrincessErinys, Pavowski, Hu Tao, cw357, Gamma Emerald

Gamma Emerald (2)

- DragonEater70, ssbm_Kyouko

Not Voting (3)

- geraintm, Purplemango

On both elimination wagons: Pav, HPE, Flavor
On Lap wagon only: Gera, Dragon, +2 dead townies
On Kyouko wagon only: Hu Tao, CW, Gamma

The other wagon d1 was HPE: Dragon, Hu Tao, Flavor
The other wagon d2 was CW: Dragon, HPE, Hu Tao

Absolute speculation begins here.

Spoiler: Speculation and Vibes

Here are my bad wagonomics thoughts.

I really don't think Dragon/Hu Tao are paired here. They're both off the elimination wagon on the same alternate target before one of them gets on the lim wagon d1 and the other gets on d2. Hu Tao looks worse for my money given the move from CW to Kyouko (especially if CW turns up scum).

Is it weird that HPE is nearly wagoned d1 and ends up on the lim wagon both days? ehhh. D1 wagons are chaotic and fleeting. I still townvibe that one even though we're probably past the point where I should be reading based on feel

Gamma with the hammer d2 has the benefit of coming in and doing a thorough catch-up and then dropping the hammer, despite professing wants to vote elsewhere. Feels towny. I think the slot is towny on balance, too

Gera's vote may as well have been RVS, never votes d2
Purple never votes period
CW is what CW is, notably after facing down elim on d2 they join the yeet wagon even though they're pretty vocal in thinking kyo is town
These three slots have *got* to contain at least one scum. On effort and d2 happenings it could be CW but wouldn't surprise me even a little bit if it's in the others. Though I will reiterate what I've said earlier that if Purple is scum I don't think DE is). If these three by some twist of fate are scum together, then fuck this game. If they're all town, also fuck this game.

I think Dragon/Hu Tao has one scum (rather vote Hu, though from an information standpoint Dragon probably gives us more)

HPE/Gamma don't seem to affect each other the way Dragon/HT or Dragon/Purple do in my weird conjectures but process of elimination would tell me there's one here

tl;dr, and no, I am not betting on this:
1 in Gera,Purple,CW
1 in Dragon/Hu Tao
1 in Gamma/HPE

I wonder if the CW wagon yesterday was on the mark.

VOTE: CW

Nahhh I don't think anybody is going cw today

Let's kill the scumsters

Unless FL was right about Team Rocket in which case I'm fine with you bussing, but I still wanna kill HPE before we go for Meowth.

I thought I was Meowth in that exercise

Wait what

I'm really confused by how that would work

Just a silly attempt at a joke man I'm clearly Jesse

[geraintm]

its played with atleast 4 of your various accounts atp so

Okay so turns out we've played in Fire and Ice and I guess we were both town. I just did a really good job of erasing that game from my memory (I think a lot of us did).

Has anyone in here played with me as scum btw?
Can people.recall what I am.like.as scum?

Nope. As far as I'm able to tell, you've never even rolled scum.

It's been a while. I am massively panicky as scum, joining wagons for terrible reasons. I am really obvious as scum

[DragonEater70]

So yeah, Hu Tao/Dragon/FL town core.

Let's gooooo

High five, sis!

@HT I'm still waiting for my high five.

🖐

[DragonEater70]

its played with atleast 4 of your various accounts atp so

Okay so turns out we've played in Fire and Ice and I guess we were both town. I just did a really good job of erasing that game from my memory (I think a lot of us did).

Has anyone in here played with me as scum btw?
Can people.recall what I am.like.as scum?

Nope. As far as I'm able to tell, you've never even rolled scum.

It's been a while. I am massively panicky as scum, joining wagons for terrible reasons. I am really obvious as scum

Link to scumgame?

[Flavor Leaf]

HPE, Pavowski, Gamma is possible.

I'm not really feeling CW as scum here, but im also in the situation of 'i tried to hard fade them early game, spent so much time Day 2 pushing them' that if they end up being scum, i get a 'well, dont mean to say i told you so, but we should have killed them Day 1 like i wanted.'

[DragonEater70]

Imagine HPE, Pavowski, and CW as Team Rocket this game….

I don’t think i need to tell you who’s who.

Your head is so far up your own ass your eyes are sticking out your nose atp
HPE and cw are not scum together EVER

So here’s my conclusion

When i claimed my confirmed Vig shot, I became a scary IC. This made every slot have to fear for the vig shot and not able to push me.

It then became a game of town trying to get me to town read them and scum trying to prevent that.

That maybe explains why day 2 felt so interminable, lotta eggshell walking

I still don't see the Hu Tao town read, but to be 100% honest, I kinda sorta tuned out the back end of d2 and was hoping for some NK analysis. I probably need to read back a bit but good gravy that's a lot of reading. Probably rather look back at the wagons, esp d2

And ... you're TRing Dragon again. Jesus Christ you give me whiplash sometimes dude

VOTE: Pavowski
This is a scum post. Especially the last part!

If both of these posts are true, and Geraint's self meta is true (I currently do not lean either way on the self meta FWIW), then scumteam is Pav + HPE (or cw I guess) + ???

Like idk who would be the third in that scenario

So my question to you Gamma is why do you think HPE and cw are never scum together?

Half-pedit: Also Flavor makes a good point of Gamma/HPE/Pav.

[Flavor Leaf]

ngl, geraint's been making town pings for me. whether they're doing anything or not, they're being genuine with what they're saying, and i believe that they believe what they're saying. So I think it's possible Geraint is town here

HPE chose Geraint slot, and frankly, it looks like a bus, but i think that could be on purpose in an HPE scum/Geraint town world. HPE knows they're going out today, like you can kind of feel it from that one, they have to be setting up.

Gamma and Pav both looking to setup split wagons/options that seem nice.

Hu Tao is getting pushed as mysterious, but Hu Tao's done a lot this game action wise. I've just landed on town. If Hu Tao ends up being scum, I get to just blame Dragon, so easy easy now.

[DragonEater70]

I had one read that ended being wrong, and I did it to get certain on the flip there.

It’s the IC gameplay, is what it is. Gotta take some L’s to figure things out.

Imo, HPE’s over exaggerating to make it look like I have poor reads, but on flips alone, i had Lap correct too.

If anything, Kyouko had the worst reads this game prior to the end, and thus died for it.

And end of the day, took 6 people to vote so 5 other slots.

Yeah, objectively Kyo had the worst reads on Day 1. If Gamma/Pav is scum/scum then she did improve a lot on Day 2.

It’s also pretty clear that HPE more worried about discrediting than looking for scum here.

This one is absolutely calling you out for the shit reads all game here regardless of alignment lol.

This one wouldn't even have to think about discrediting you because it feels like you're doing all that yourself, if the way others seem to think about your reads is anything to go off of. If you weren't confirmed this one would BoP you where you stand.

It’s also pretty clear that HPE more worried about discrediting than looking for scum here.

This one is absolutely calling you out for the shit reads all game here regardless of alignment lol.

Like which ones specifically?

You ADORE completely flipping your read on Dragon, Lap was "obvtown" that you hammered yourself under the pretense of "well i always kill vt claims d1 ", you somehow think this one would ever be scum with cw (LOL), Gamma suddenly shot down to second-worst after a seemingly positive reception of her and you started on the idea she was somehow scum trying to save Kyouko... These two posts right near eachother are hilarious because now HT is town and Gamma is... also town? But you also said that about Gamma not so long after your bender about Gamma scum. And then you also not too long after that you reasserted your readlist with Gamma and HT near the bottom. It's just... hilarious, really. There's alot of examples to draw on.

You've said yourself that you flip-flop easily, and this one agrees, and also thinks that's like a terrible quality to have as a vigilante LMAO. Your reads can radically shift from post-to-post and you can also be incredibly entrenched in one particular read and neither scum

or town

has any reason to believe you're going to be accurate with your gun or your vote. If you were not vigilante, this one would BoP you where you stand.

Honestly none of this is convincing evidence Flavor has bad reads (including my own flame post). It just shows he flip-flops a lot, which he kinda always does. But his flip-flopping ends up correct more often than not, like his current towncore for instance.

But regardless, what were you even trying to achieve with all this except one huge discredit?

[DragonEater70]

ngl, geraint's been making town pings for me. whether they're doing anything or not, they're being genuine with what they're saying, and i believe that they believe what they're saying. So I think it's possible Geraint is town here

HPE chose Geraint slot, and frankly, it looks like a bus, but i think that could be on purpose in an HPE scum/Geraint town world. HPE knows they're going out today, like you can kind of feel it from that one, they have to be setting up.

Gamma and Pav both looking to setup split wagons/options that seem nice.

Hu Tao is getting pushed as mysterious, but Hu Tao's done a lot this game action wise. I've just landed on town. If Hu Tao ends up being scum, I get to just blame Dragon, so easy easy now.

I'll fully accept responsibility if Hu Tao is scum, but she ain't.

[Flavor Leaf]

nah it wouldnt just be you either, i dont think it's hu tao. i dont think it's CW or Geraint right now either.

Purple has some scum equity now, unfortunately, so I think full scum team is in HPE, Pav, Gamma, Purple.

[Pavowski]

Flavor could you elaborate on Purple's scum equity? You've mentioned it before but haven't really explained where your head is at, there

[Pavowski]

And yes, I know, seeking to understand where Flavor's head is at in this game may be a fool's errand

[Flavor Leaf]

i feel like it's pretty obvious where my head is at here

[Flavor Leaf]

purple just has done some weird things that feel like stalling/potential scum objective, like the dragon soft push, but they havent voted, so they're not throwing their weight around that way, so idk.

[Pavowski]

Sigh.

Ok, but like, if it *weren't* obvious, like, say, to *me*, what would you say to somebody, you know, like me, to make it slightly more obviouser

[Pavowski]

Ok, thanks, I can see that