Me and you? Pretty sure this is our first game together.In post 2171, Hu Tao wrote:Probably since they have more experience with me than you. This is our first game together right?In post 2160, Pavowski wrote:I'm glad I'm not the only one who still feels this way about HT at this point, I continue to be baffled that people townread that slot, let alone strongly townreadIn post 2145, HighPrincessErinys wrote:In post 2141, DragonEater70 wrote: Do you even have a read on me HPE, or are you just saying this to discredit Flavor?This one's had you as solid town for a while, partly because its a little wary of jumping to conclusions about you and forming a bad scumread like it has in a past few games. HT is still null and considering the circumstances that makes her closer to a scumlean because actually not being able to read her is terrifying?In post 2142, DragonEater70 wrote: Also do you have a read on Hu Tao?
Lowkey gera/pav/HT scumteam seems viable but it doesn't wanna overlook slots like you and purple either.
Unless you're scum discrediting in which case I'm annoyed that I'm agreeing with you, even though I do agree with you
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The Gamma/HPE split isn't because only one could be scum between them, it's because (given my dubious wagon- and game- logic) I expect to find 2 scum in the other groups I listed, leaving one to be found between the two of themIn post 2174, Flavor Leaf wrote: @Pav - I don’t see the Gamma/HPE split and why it couldn’t be both(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)-
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Nahhh I don't think anybody is going cw todayIn post 2162, Pavowski wrote: Now that Gamma has educated me on the ways of properly using a spoiler tag:
Spoiler: Wagons
On both elimination wagons: Pav, HPE, Flavor
On Lap wagon only: Gera, Dragon, +2 dead townies
On Kyouko wagon only: Hu Tao, CW, Gamma
The other wagon d1 was HPE: Dragon, Hu Tao, Flavor
The other wagon d2 was CW: Dragon, HPE, Hu Tao
Absolute speculation begins here.
Spoiler: Speculation and Vibes
tl;dr, and no, I am not betting on this:
1 in Gera,Purple,CW
1 in Dragon/Hu Tao
1 in Gamma/HPE
I wonder if the CW wagon yesterday was on the mark.
VOTE: CW
Let's kill the scumsters
Unless FL was right about Team Rocket in which case I'm fine with you bussing, but I still wanna kill HPE before we go for Meowth.-
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I thought I was Meowth in that exerciseIn post 2177, DragonEater70 wrote:
Nahhh I don't think anybody is going cw todayIn post 2162, Pavowski wrote: Now that Gamma has educated me on the ways of properly using a spoiler tag:
Spoiler: Wagons
On both elimination wagons: Pav, HPE, Flavor
On Lap wagon only: Gera, Dragon, +2 dead townies
On Kyouko wagon only: Hu Tao, CW, Gamma
The other wagon d1 was HPE: Dragon, Hu Tao, Flavor
The other wagon d2 was CW: Dragon, HPE, Hu Tao
Absolute speculation begins here.
Spoiler: Speculation and Vibes
tl;dr, and no, I am not betting on this:
1 in Gera,Purple,CW
1 in Dragon/Hu Tao
1 in Gamma/HPE
I wonder if the CW wagon yesterday was on the mark.
VOTE: CW
Let's kill the scumsters
Unless FL was right about Team Rocket in which case I'm fine with you bussing, but I still wanna kill HPE before we go for Meowth.(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)-
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@HT I'm still waiting for my high five.In post 2139, DragonEater70 wrote:
High five, sis!In post 2136, Hu Tao wrote:
Let's goooooIn post 2080, Flavor Leaf wrote: So yeah, Hu Tao/Dragon/FL town core.-
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Wait whatIn post 2178, Pavowski wrote:
I thought I was Meowth in that exerciseIn post 2177, DragonEater70 wrote:
Nahhh I don't think anybody is going cw todayIn post 2162, Pavowski wrote: Now that Gamma has educated me on the ways of properly using a spoiler tag:
Spoiler: Wagons
On both elimination wagons: Pav, HPE, Flavor
On Lap wagon only: Gera, Dragon, +2 dead townies
On Kyouko wagon only: Hu Tao, CW, Gamma
The other wagon d1 was HPE: Dragon, Hu Tao, Flavor
The other wagon d2 was CW: Dragon, HPE, Hu Tao
Absolute speculation begins here.
Spoiler: Speculation and Vibes
tl;dr, and no, I am not betting on this:
1 in Gera,Purple,CW
1 in Dragon/Hu Tao
1 in Gamma/HPE
I wonder if the CW wagon yesterday was on the mark.
VOTE: CW
Let's kill the scumsters
Unless FL was right about Team Rocket in which case I'm fine with you bussing, but I still wanna kill HPE before we go for Meowth.
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To be fair I don't really think CW is happening today either but you have to speak your dreams into existence(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)-
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🖐In post 2179, DragonEater70 wrote:
@HT I'm still waiting for my high five.In post 2139, DragonEater70 wrote:
High five, sis!In post 2136, Hu Tao wrote:
Let's goooooIn post 2080, Flavor Leaf wrote: So yeah, Hu Tao/Dragon/FL town core.-
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Just a silly attempt at a joke man I'm clearly JesseIn post 2180, DragonEater70 wrote:
Wait whatIn post 2178, Pavowski wrote:
I thought I was Meowth in that exerciseIn post 2177, DragonEater70 wrote:
Nahhh I don't think anybody is going cw todayIn post 2162, Pavowski wrote: Now that Gamma has educated me on the ways of properly using a spoiler tag:
Spoiler: Wagons
On both elimination wagons: Pav, HPE, Flavor
On Lap wagon only: Gera, Dragon, +2 dead townies
On Kyouko wagon only: Hu Tao, CW, Gamma
The other wagon d1 was HPE: Dragon, Hu Tao, Flavor
The other wagon d2 was CW: Dragon, HPE, Hu Tao
Absolute speculation begins here.
Spoiler: Speculation and Vibes
tl;dr, and no, I am not betting on this:
1 in Gera,Purple,CW
1 in Dragon/Hu Tao
1 in Gamma/HPE
I wonder if the CW wagon yesterday was on the mark.
VOTE: CW
Let's kill the scumsters
Unless FL was right about Team Rocket in which case I'm fine with you bussing, but I still wanna kill HPE before we go for Meowth.
I'm really confused by how that would work(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)-
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It's been a while. I am massively panicky as scum, joining wagons for terrible reasons. I am really obvious as scumIn post 2172, DragonEater70 wrote:
Okay so turns out we've played in Fire and Ice and I guess we were both town. I just did a really good job of erasing that game from my memory (I think a lot of us did).In post 2150, HighPrincessErinys wrote: its played with atleast 4 of your various accounts atp so
Nope. As far as I'm able to tell, you've never even rolled scum.In post 2154, geraintm wrote: Has anyone in here played with me as scum btw?
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In post 2183, Hu Tao wrote:
🖐In post 2179, DragonEater70 wrote:
@HT I'm still waiting for my high five.In post 2139, DragonEater70 wrote:
High five, sis!In post 2136, Hu Tao wrote:
Let's goooooIn post 2080, Flavor Leaf wrote: So yeah, Hu Tao/Dragon/FL town core.-
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Link to scumgame?In post 2185, geraintm wrote:
It's been a while. I am massively panicky as scum, joining wagons for terrible reasons. I am really obvious as scumIn post 2172, DragonEater70 wrote:
Okay so turns out we've played in Fire and Ice and I guess we were both town. I just did a really good job of erasing that game from my memory (I think a lot of us did).In post 2150, HighPrincessErinys wrote: its played with atleast 4 of your various accounts atp so
Nope. As far as I'm able to tell, you've never even rolled scum.In post 2154, geraintm wrote: Has anyone in here played with me as scum btw?
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HPE, Pavowski, Gamma is possible.
I'm not really feeling CW as scum here, but im also in the situation of 'i tried to hard fade them early game, spent so much time Day 2 pushing them' that if they end up being scum, i get a 'well, dont mean to say i told you so, but we should have killed them Day 1 like i wanted.'CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Your head is so far up your own ass your eyes are sticking out your nose atpIn post 2060, Flavor Leaf wrote: Imagine HPE, Pavowski, and CW as Team Rocket this game….
I don’t think i need to tell you who’s who.
HPE and cw are not scum together EVER
If both of these posts are true, and Geraint's self meta is true (I currently do not lean either way on the self meta FWIW), then scumteam is Pav + HPE (or cw I guess) + ???In post 2090, Gamma Emerald wrote:
VOTE: PavowskiIn post 2081, Pavowski wrote:
That maybe explains why day 2 felt so interminable, lotta eggshell walkingIn post 2080, Flavor Leaf wrote: So here’s my conclusion
When i claimed my confirmed Vig shot, I became a scary IC. This made every slot have to fear for the vig shot and not able to push me.
It then became a game of town trying to get me to town read them and scum trying to prevent that.
I still don't see the Hu Tao town read, but to be 100% honest, I kinda sorta tuned out the back end of d2 and was hoping for some NK analysis. I probably need to read back a bit but good gravy that's a lot of reading. Probably rather look back at the wagons, esp d2
And ... you're TRing Dragon again. Jesus Christ you give me whiplash sometimes dude
This is a scum post. Especially the last part!
Like idk who would be the third in that scenario
So my question to you Gamma is why do you think HPE and cw are never scum together?
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ngl, geraint's been making town pings for me. whether they're doing anything or not, they're being genuine with what they're saying, and i believe that they believe what they're saying. So I think it's possible Geraint is town here
HPE chose Geraint slot, and frankly, it looks like a bus, but i think that could be on purpose in an HPE scum/Geraint town world. HPE knows they're going out today, like you can kind of feel it from that one, they have to be setting up.
Gamma and Pav both looking to setup split wagons/options that seem nice.
Hu Tao is getting pushed as mysterious, but Hu Tao's done a lot this game action wise. I've just landed on town. If Hu Tao ends up being scum, I get to just blame Dragon, so easy easy now.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Yeah, objectively Kyo had the worst reads on Day 1. If Gamma/Pav is scum/scum then she did improve a lot on Day 2.In post 2094, Flavor Leaf wrote: I had one read that ended being wrong, and I did it to get certain on the flip there.
It’s the IC gameplay, is what it is. Gotta take some L’s to figure things out.
Imo, HPE’s over exaggerating to make it look like I have poor reads, but on flips alone, i had Lap correct too.
If anything, Kyouko had the worst reads this game prior to the end, and thus died for it.
And end of the day, took 6 people to vote so 5 other slots.
Honestly none of this is convincing evidence Flavor has bad reads (including my own flame post). It just shows he flip-flops a lot, which he kinda always does. But his flip-flopping ends up correct more often than not, like his current towncore for instance.In post 2104, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
This one wouldn't even have to think about discrediting you because it feels like you're doing all that yourself, if the way others seem to think about your reads is anything to go off of. If you weren't confirmed this one would BoP you where you stand.In post 2100, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
This one is absolutely calling you out for the shit reads all game here regardless of alignment lol.In post 2099, Flavor Leaf wrote: It’s also pretty clear that HPE more worried about discrediting than looking for scum here.
You ADORE completely flipping your read on Dragon, Lap was "obvtown" that you hammered yourself under the pretense of "well i always kill vt claims d1 ", you somehow think this one would ever be scum with cw (LOL), Gamma suddenly shot down to second-worst after a seemingly positive reception of her and you started on the idea she was somehow scum trying to save Kyouko... These two posts right near eachother are hilarious because now HT is town and Gamma is... also town? But you also said that about Gamma not so long after your bender about Gamma scum. And then you also not too long after that you reasserted your readlist with Gamma and HT near the bottom. It's just... hilarious, really. There's alot of examples to draw on.In post 2101, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 2100, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
This one is absolutely calling you out for the shit reads all game here regardless of alignment lol.In post 2099, Flavor Leaf wrote: It’s also pretty clear that HPE more worried about discrediting than looking for scum here.
Like which ones specifically?
You've said yourself that you flip-flop easily, and this one agrees, and also thinks that's like a terrible quality to have as a vigilante LMAO. Your reads can radically shift from post-to-post and you can also be incredibly entrenched in one particular read and neither scumor townhas any reason to believe you're going to be accurate with your gun or your vote. If you were not vigilante, this one would BoP you where you stand.
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I'll fully accept responsibility if Hu Tao is scum, but she ain't.In post 2190, Flavor Leaf wrote: ngl, geraint's been making town pings for me. whether they're doing anything or not, they're being genuine with what they're saying, and i believe that they believe what they're saying. So I think it's possible Geraint is town here
HPE chose Geraint slot, and frankly, it looks like a bus, but i think that could be on purpose in an HPE scum/Geraint town world. HPE knows they're going out today, like you can kind of feel it from that one, they have to be setting up.
Gamma and Pav both looking to setup split wagons/options that seem nice.
Hu Tao is getting pushed as mysterious, but Hu Tao's done a lot this game action wise. I've just landed on town. If Hu Tao ends up being scum, I get to just blame Dragon, so easy easy now.-
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nah it wouldnt just be you either, i dont think it's hu tao. i dont think it's CW or Geraint right now either.
Purple has some scum equity now, unfortunately, so I think full scum team is in HPE, Pav, Gamma, Purple.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Flavor could you elaborate on Purple's scum equity? You've mentioned it before but haven't really explained where your head is at, there(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)-
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And yes, I know, seeking to understand where Flavor's head is at in this game may be a fool's errand(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)-
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i feel like it's pretty obvious where my head is at hereCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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purple just has done some weird things that feel like stalling/potential scum objective, like the dragon soft push, but they havent voted, so they're not throwing their weight around that way, so idk.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Sigh.
Ok, but like, if it *weren't* obvious, like, say, to *me*, what would you say to somebody, you know, like me, to make it slightly more obviouser(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)-
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Ok, thanks, I can see that(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
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