I don't see it, please explain.In post 256, Black wrote: CCS seems fine so far
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Taking a second glance at his ISO and I'm not really feeling as good about it as I was then. I thought there was more evidence of CCS trying to sort but I'm not really seeing any of that looking back through itIn post 450, davesaz wrote:
I don't see it, please explain.In post 256, Black wrote: CCS seems fine so far
I would be ok wagoning this
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It's interesting that we have 3 wagons at 3 votes each. I don't think fading any of the 3 would be super likely to hit scum but if I had to compromise on one then it would probably be Naerys
I'm more inclined to believe that scum are just hanging out and they're perfectly fine with the game state. CCS fits the bill here-
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It’s happened before but it took substantial luckIn post 444, Katsuki wrote:I'll be thoroughly amused later on if it turned out the leading wagons were both on scum.
And a scumteam presence describable in one word: suck<Embrace The Void>
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My TMI read is mostly foundedIn post 446, davesaz wrote:
Fine, I'll directly answer this.In post 179, Gamma Emerald wrote: Thomith I can see as a decent suspect
since if katsuki is town scum would detect
the ruse of her Juggernaut claim quite readily
and could lead to how he's pushed certain people so heavily
I don't thinkwould actually believe a Juggernaut claim, and I don't think anyone would true claim it.anyone
TMI is not required to take that position.
On how strong Thomith’s opinion sounded
Felt less like town trying to sort things
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Thomith is at least showing signs of solving and wanting to sort people. We're not getting any of that from CCS-
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I don't think it's fair to say suck. If my statement is correct, then you can clearly see the unsuccessful effort to divert and drum up another nomwagon.In post 454, Gamma Emerald wrote:
It’s happened before but it took substantial luckIn post 444, Katsuki wrote: I'll be thoroughly amused later on if it turned out the leading wagons were both on scum.
And a scumteam presence describable in one word: suck
Wanna join me in making this game state more interesting? The bloodlust in me is thirsting for some flips.
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Who is least townie then?In post 449, davesaz wrote:
I don't think I've seen much if anything that's overtly scummy. Lots of contenders for least towny, so many that I'd have to think about it.In post 416, Black wrote:
Ok, that's fair. Who do you think is scum?In post 415, davesaz wrote:
Yesterday up to when I started posting today, for the most obvious reason of all.In post 411, Black wrote: Why haven't you gone back to your To Do List in 316 yet?
408 is part of the followup.
I can't expand much on the reason for the Hu Tao observation without getting into a forbidden subject. The correct way to read that comment is that it's going to make it hard to get a read on her.
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VOTE: CCS
I think Snivy is a fine vote
And on that VC I did note
All Thomith voters were ones called out in post 108
So I’m feeling like giving that a break
I’m forcing this next bit by rhyming with orange
If you are active and have less posts than me, that’s kinda cringe
I’m hindered by my choice to rhyme
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Idk whyIn post 434, Thomith wrote: It genuinely feels like you're just jumping where the wagons are to see what sticks, which is screaming being very opportunistic to me.
Granted, I could be tunelled and you're doing this to create pressure, but the reason I'm unsure of this is because you are also claiming you're willing to vote elsewhere, not fully committing to a push.
You asked a question, then jumped on me even though you were thinking pretty much the same thing regarding the claim, then seemed to backtrack when you said that you had the same reasoning, which is what properly pinged me about your slot.
You're saying I'm scum that doesn't know how to jump off your wagon without looking weird, but I already have a tonne of heat on me, so if I was scum, why would I continue to push the points that got me heat in the first place?
I just feel your posting is a lot more awkward compared to Micro 1094 and Open 893. You sounded a lot more confident and light hearted in those games than here.
Here your tone feels like you aren't really sure of what you are saying and you are looking for reasons to justify it / prove it, rather than you genuinely believe it.
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YeahIn post 441, Black wrote: That seems like a pretty weak thing to latch on to
Dragon's response in particular feels like he was trying to get more out of Katsuki to gauge how serious her claim was. It doesn't look like he jumped on her at all
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Why are you against starting a new wagon on the person you said you wouldn't mind fading?In post 457, Katsuki wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say suck. If my statement is correct, then you can clearly see the unsuccessful effort to divert and drum up another nomwagon.In post 454, Gamma Emerald wrote:
It’s happened before but it took substantial luckIn post 444, Katsuki wrote: I'll be thoroughly amused later on if it turned out the leading wagons were both on scum.
And a scumteam presence describable in one word: suck
Wanna join me in making this game state more interesting? The bloodlust in me is thirsting for some flips.
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A bunch of technicalities. I was referring to Thomith when I said somebody had asked you about your vote. I didn't see an actual explanation earlier, but I guess now I understand what you meant by the self vote thing. I am not going to say that it works every time but I have definitely self-voted before (as town) and then got hammered. So I don't really think it scares anyone off.In post 448, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
This doesn't feel like an accurate representation to me...In post 428, DragonEater70 wrote: I also think Kyo's vote on and approach to my slot is pretty scummy. Like she voted me for apparently self-voting, people asked her of that's the reason and she didn't answer. Now that she' s back in the thread she says she "vibes with" my explanation of the self vote but kept the vote on me with no further commemt.
"Like she voted me for apparently self-voting":
This is a partial truth. The whole truth, as I've already explained, is that I think you're self-voting to break up wagons forming on yourself, despite your claims that you're trying to build wagons on yourself to catch scum on them.
"people asked her of that's the reason and she didn't answer":
Nobody asked me why I voted you. I'm double checking now, and the closest anyone came to asking was Thomith when he assumed I had been asked why I voted you in 378. To this point, still nobody has asked me, though I've already given my reason.
"Now that she' s back in the thread she says she "vibes with" my explanation of the self vote but kept the vote on me with no further comment":
When I say "IIn post 390, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
I kinda vibe with this - I dont enjoy being wagoned early or at all, but I do tend to find the scum on my wagons when they happen.In post 260, DragonEater70 wrote:I enjoy being wagoned early
I might be superstitious but I feel it helps me find scum better (especially when said scum is on my wagon)
Also I just hate being nullread by people. I feel a lot better being either scum read or townread.
I think voting yourself is kinda counterintuitive to this though - it's only going to scare people away usually, not build the wagon. Which is why it's sus you did it twicekindavibe with this", emphasis on the kinda, I'm saying I partially agree with how you feel about being wagoned - because being wagoned helps me find scum better. The problem with this though, is that voting yourself is not conducive to getting a wagon going on yourself where you'll be able to identify the scum on your wagon. I think the real reason you're voting yourself here when wagoned, is to discourage any more votes coming your way. Furthermore, if you really were trying to build up your own wagon to find the scum on it, I would expect a more convincing read than this (combined with the snippet of 480 I'm breaking down now):
tl;dr - Dragon is generalizing my posts and ignoring the details where it's convenient for his faked scumread on meIn post 348, DragonEater70 wrote: Also
Are we just gonna ignore how Kyouko jumped on my wagon with a practically naked vote, and her other engagement with the game could be summed up by a bunch of nothing posts and then overexplaining why Hu Tao is town for scumreading Thomith?
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Oh, why?In post 442, Black wrote: If I had to guess I would say Dragon/Thomith is TvT-
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I have found both his feel and tone off this game compared to past town games of his, but I'm having trouble with bringing myself to nom him just for that alone today. One of those games I only stumbled upon because I discovered an old game of mine I modded that he happened to be in back in 2015. It's possible I've played in other games with him and seen him scum before, but I can't remember any of them outside of TM2018.In post 462, Black wrote:
Why are you against starting a new wagon on the person you said you wouldn't mind fading?In post 457, Katsuki wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say suck. If my statement is correct, then you can clearly see the unsuccessful effort to divert and drum up another nomwagon.In post 454, Gamma Emerald wrote:
It’s happened before but it took substantial luckIn post 444, Katsuki wrote: I'll be thoroughly amused later on if it turned out the leading wagons were both on scum.
And a scumteam presence describable in one word: suck
Wanna join me in making this game state more interesting? The bloodlust in me is thirsting for some flips.
VOTE: DRAGON
In the event he flips town, it doesn't really give me any helpful information to progress my reads. Fairly low quality nom today IMO, willing to give more time to sort out his alignment.Fluffy fluffy~~~ |"READING KATSUKI IS LIKE SOME SORT OF POSTMODERN ARTFORM"- GreyICE
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For clarity for ISO skimmers, above post relates to Davesaz.In post 465, Katsuki wrote:
I have found both his feel and tone off this game compared to past town games of his, but I'm having trouble with bringing myself to nom him just for that alone today. One of those games I only stumbled upon because I discovered an old game of mine I modded that he happened to be in back in 2015. It's possible I've played in other games with him and seen him scum before, but I can't remember any of them outside of TM2018.
In the event he flips town, it doesn't really give me any helpful information to progress my reads. Fairly low quality nom today IMO, willing to give more time to sort out his alignment.Fluffy fluffy~~~ |"READING KATSUKI IS LIKE SOME SORT OF POSTMODERN ARTFORM"- GreyICE
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Simple answer? I think you are both probably townIn post 464, DragonEater70 wrote:
Oh, why?In post 442, Black wrote: If I had to guess I would say Dragon/Thomith is TvT-
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Didn't you just say I was probably scum
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I think you are misunderstanding me. I said you could be scum but right now I feel like you're probably town-
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Bad vote. I think Thom has actually started to be townier
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Oh okay thenIn post 469, Black wrote: I think you are misunderstanding me. I said you could be scum but right now I feel like you're probably town
Should I just sheep you on std
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I think dragon is the scum if there is one thereIn post 442, Black wrote: If I had to guess I would say Dragon/Thomith is TvT-
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I don't hate a ccs vote either.In post 459, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: CCS
I think Snivy is a fine vote
And on that VC I did note
All Thomith voters were ones called out in post 108
So I’m feeling like giving that a break
I’m forcing this next bit by rhyming with orange
If you are active and have less posts than me, that’s kinda cringe
I’m hindered by my choice to rhyme
So you should have outposted me by this time-
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Still have time left on the day to see what CCS decides to show up with. Lurker wagon would've been more useful 10pgs ago.Fluffy fluffy~~~ |"READING KATSUKI IS LIKE SOME SORT OF POSTMODERN ARTFORM"- GreyICE
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