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[Laplacian]

*way. Phone posting worst posting

[FuDuzn]

In my head I voted for Margot, saw the last VC and saw I was still RVSing Gamma.

Let's change that shall we?

VOTE: Margot

[FuDuzn]

I hope Alianna comes back soon though, I want to talk to her, not a fan tbh.

Clap I feel is town, Gamma and Hu have me a bit paranoid since they seemed so trusting on me so quickly, but nothing of their posting besides that seems 'that' bad.

I do want to want to give the N00bs some room to breath(hello pot me kettle, I am basically a N00bs here as well), but when I am home on my computer I will give them a more thorough looking over. I don't want to give scum an excuse to play the N00bs card too much.

Upward though gives me town vibes, I don't feel N00bs scum comes in like that.

[FuDuzn]

I hope Alianna comes back soon though, I want to talk to her, not a fan tbh.

Clap I feel is town, Gamma and Hu have me a bit paranoid since they seemed so trusting on me so quickly, but nothing of their posting besides that seems 'that' bad.

I do want to want to give the N00bs some room to breath(hello pot me kettle, I am basically a N00bs here as well), but when I am home on my computer I will give them a more thorough looking over. I don't want to give scum an excuse to play the N00bs card too much.

Upward though gives me town vibes, I don't feel N00bs scum comes in like that.

Let's just ignore the typos, mkay?

[Alianna]

I hope Alianna comes back soon though, I want to talk to her, not a fan tbh.

I just opened this thread, not caught up yet but what did you want to talk about?

[Alianna]

Feck... I'm a baby here....

Please be gentle. So if I think so someone's spouting crap I should say so?

I'd strongly advise you to check out the guides about townplay that we have on the mafiascum wiki, they're way more insightful than what anyone here could reasonably say

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... y_Articles

And why specifically the townplay guides? This looks TMI-ish.
Though 39 does suggest you're aware of the info difference between town and scum, so it'd be kind of weird if you did actually TMI-slip and then

that

was your next post. Hmmmmmmmm, you can be a townlean for now (probably will have to check my logic tomorrow because it's getting pretty late and my brain is fried). I'm still interested in the answer to that question though.

I'm often talking to people with the assumption that they're town, can provide previous quotes on that in other games if this interests you

And on top of that, if you check the page there's also like, a lot of guides, so it kinda helps to narrow it down a bit more

Quotes would be helpful to verify, but I'm inclined to believe this.

[FuDuzn]

I hope Alianna comes back soon though, I want to talk to her, not a fan tbh.

I just opened this thread, not caught up yet but what did you want to talk about?

What do you make of Hu and Gamma seemingly following me blindly?

I also get a vibe from your posts that you are trying to seem genuine, yet somehow seem fake.

I just want more from you to get a better feel for you(again, focusing on those who seem more like veterans of this site lol).

It is weird feeling like the elder statesman here though.

[Gamma Emerald]

that's one way to interpret what we're doing

[FuDuzn]

that's one way to interpret what we're doing

Bad choice of words, more you two accepting me as town so quickly.

I tended to get scum read back in the day, feels weird lol

[Alianna]

VOTE: Alianna
nowhere did I say I wanted to yeet FuDuzn.

I don't remember if I thought you said that, but I probably did misread you. I have not really been paying attention to whether my RVS jokeposting makes any sense.

Why are you so concerned whether your RVS posting makes sense?

I mean, I wasn't until Gamma made that post. Idk how to really answer this aside from the obvious. Like, I'd hope that my posts make sense in context and are based on correct readings of other posts.

I'm aware of 131 but I'll address it after I've read the thread.

[Alianna]

Recounted. 3 votes alianna. Undoing vote

VOTE: None

edited to fix broken tag

VOTE: DragonEater70

This draconian leader must be overthrown! Anarchy must reign!!!

Creating fake dragon facts are encouraged. Deciding the leader of the dragons is a cannibal is a bad fact.

VOTE: Alianna

It's not a bad fact if it's true!

So you admit that it's either a bad fact, or a bad fake fact.........

Not a fan of this. 7 votes to lim, so 3 votes are nothing. Why unvote, other than to (incorrectly) appear to be doing a townie thing?

Then, after a serious game-related action reverts back to RVS banter.

VOTE: Margot

The first point looks okay but I don’t think sliding back into banter is a scumtell since I do it a lot myself regardless of alignment

This is basically the exact thought I had when I read that.

I do agree with the rest of Clap's questioning on page 3 though.

@Gamma - if you haven't explained it already, what did FD do that made you want to put him in your townblock?

[Gamma Emerald]

his questions don't feel like they're meant to corral the game into a certain position rn
plus: townblock of 2 + townblock of 2 = townblock of 4 (this also goes for my hu tao read, I think this is a more succinct way to express my early idea I expressed)

[FuDuzn]

his questions don't feel like they're meant to corral the game into a certain position rn
plus: townblock of 2 + townblock of 2 = townblock of 4 (this also goes for my hu tao read, I think this is a more succinct way to express my early idea I expressed)

Wait, who else is in the town block now?

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi.

I like your entrance the best.

You are town.

Thank you. I will blindly trust this and say you're town too!

VOTE: Hu Tao

kinda wanna say this comes from scum? Like, there's a bit of a "oh god i gotta appear towny" in those words imho
"blindly" also sounds hyperaware of the lack of info a townie would normally have

I don’t think Hu Tao’s post is that bad
I will say I am likewise getting good vibes from you
For the time being I think a town block of you, me, Hu Tao, and FuDuzn works

[FuDuzn]

his questions don't feel like they're meant to corral the game into a certain position rn
plus: townblock of 2 + townblock of 2 = townblock of 4 (this also goes for my hu tao read, I think this is a more succinct way to express my early idea I expressed)

Wait, who else is in the town block now?

Oh Gyp? I can vibe with that.

I kinda vibe with Clap more, but tomato tomato I guess

[Alianna]

I'm opening up the old sublime text Mafia notes templates again. What a time to be alive.

Only vibe leans atm are Gypyx as town and Claptastik as Scum, but they are purely on vibes based on early d1 behaviour, and tells are almost always useless, esp. as you two seem to have been playing for ages.

Feck... I'm a baby here....

Please be gentle. So if I think so someone's spouting crap I should say so?

I'd strongly advise you to check out the guides about townplay that we have on the mafiascum wiki, they're way more insightful than what anyone here could reasonably say

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... y_Articles

And why specifically the townplay guides? This looks TMI-ish.
Though 39 does suggest you're aware of the info difference between town and scum, so it'd be kind of weird if you did actually TMI-slip and then

that

was your next post. Hmmmmmmmm, you can be a townlean for now (probably will have to check my logic tomorrow because it's getting pretty late and my brain is fried). I'm still interested in the answer to that question though.

Like, this gives town vibes just because it's the kind of non-committal, but still roughly reasoned out thinking I'd expect, whereas #66, #68 and #70 feel a bit more accusatory? Just feels off for the first 24 hours of the first day.

E: tag fix

aaaah yes, agressive = scum and nice = town

clap certainely feels like town motivated agression here, can't tell if Margot has got her radar calibrated on the complete opposite of mine or if she's just scum afraid of a proactive townie

and while this got me thinking about it, i gotta say the Alianna post in question looks pretty bad to me? Like, it's *extremely* reasonable, and non-antagonizing immediatly afterwards, almost like the main worry is making sure i don't get angry about it

Not TRing Margot, but I like that you brought up the radar thing because that's something I've noticed myself doing as town (as in, committing the fallacy that Margot is committing) and have been trying to "un-calibrate" myself from, and I've also been wrongly scumread by people who I now realize were calibrated the other way.

I wasn't worried about that at all, so I'm having trouble seeing where you're getting that from. I doubled back on the ping I got from 38 because I realized it was most likely wrong. It would probably be easier to respond to this if you elaborated on what in the post gave you that impression.

[Alianna]

Gypyx is my top townlean so far.

[FuDuzn]

I'm opening up the old sublime text Mafia notes templates again. What a time to be alive.

Only vibe leans atm are Gypyx as town and Claptastik as Scum, but they are purely on vibes based on early d1 behaviour, and tells are almost always useless, esp. as you two seem to have been playing for ages.

Feck... I'm a baby here....

Please be gentle. So if I think so someone's spouting crap I should say so?

I'd strongly advise you to check out the guides about townplay that we have on the mafiascum wiki, they're way more insightful than what anyone here could reasonably say

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... y_Articles

And why specifically the townplay guides? This looks TMI-ish.
Though 39 does suggest you're aware of the info difference between town and scum, so it'd be kind of weird if you did actually TMI-slip and then

that

was your next post. Hmmmmmmmm, you can be a townlean for now (probably will have to check my logic tomorrow because it's getting pretty late and my brain is fried). I'm still interested in the answer to that question though.

Like, this gives town vibes just because it's the kind of non-committal, but still roughly reasoned out thinking I'd expect, whereas #66, #68 and #70 feel a bit more accusatory? Just feels off for the first 24 hours of the first day.

E: tag fix

aaaah yes, agressive = scum and nice = town

clap certainely feels like town motivated agression here, can't tell if Margot has got her radar calibrated on the complete opposite of mine or if she's just scum afraid of a proactive townie

and while this got me thinking about it, i gotta say the Alianna post in question looks pretty bad to me? Like, it's *extremely* reasonable, and non-antagonizing immediatly afterwards, almost like the main worry is making sure i don't get angry about it

Not TRing Margot, but I like that you brought up the radar thing because that's something I've noticed myself doing as town (as in, committing the fallacy that Margot is committing) and have been trying to "un-calibrate" myself from, and I've also been wrongly scumread by people who I now realize were calibrated the other way.

I wasn't worried about that at all, so I'm having trouble seeing where you're getting that from. I doubled back on the ping I got from 38 because I realized it was most likely wrong. It would probably be easier to respond to this if you elaborated on what in the post gave you that impression.

I get where Gyp is coming from, I put it a different way but it does seem like you are trying to be too 'agreeable'.

Kind of the opposite how I town read Clap because I don't think they would be too aggressive, like scum would be more careful early game......I feel like you are so worried about the optics of what you are doing more than the content itself.

[FuDuzn]

Looking through everyone else now, I kinda feel like I recognize Delta, did we ever play back in the day?

"Mafia is multitasking by default."

What does this mean?

Also hi

Hi.

I like your entrance the best.

You are town.

Thank you. I will blindly trust this and say you're town too!

VOTE: Hu Tao

kinda wanna say this comes from scum? Like, there's a bit of a "oh god i gotta appear towny" in those words imho
"blindly" also sounds hyperaware of the lack of info a townie would normally have

Hu Tao's post sounds like the kind of thing a townie would say tbf

And I forgot they were even in this game, two whole posts not really adding anything. Hopefully they get this notification and post more

[FuDuzn]

Let's goooo. I'm here to get killed day 1 again and chew bubblegum.

And I'm all out of gum

I appreciate the humor right out of the gate, and somewhat of a They Live reference.....love that movie, town points.

VOTE: MargotRosa

Anyways wanna vote a slot that's been weirdly shy about things?

VOTE: MargotRosa
I somewhat agree with this idea. I think she’s just been not present but wouldn’t mind leaving her a little present on her return

I'm down with this vote (despite only having 2 posts myself)
VOTE: MargotRosa

Not many reads yet. HT and Aliana feel towny. Upwards has the tryhard poat that feels nai from a newbie. Deltawave having no comment on my vote also feels a little scummy.

But all those town points go away for this opportunistic vote on Margot here, especially since right after that they don't mention Margot in their reads(I thought maybe it was a joke vote, but Gyp's vote seemed serious to me). So some scum pings I am getting from Lap.

[FuDuzn]

fuck, missed on RVS

I'll just pretend nothing of note happened and VOTE: Upwards

fuck, missed on RVS

I'll just pretend nothing of note happened and VOTE: Upwards

How about you don't pretend it's still RVS and come play the game with us my friend

pretending it's still RVS is more fun though and even the mod's using an avatar that takes me back to 2017 (I think) shitposting

to be fair, I read the game again and jumped at nothing

at most I think FD looks towny enough

Whole lotta null here, if anything would like to hear why I am 'towny enough'

[FuDuzn]

initial gut feelings : claptastik and Hu town

While I definitely agree about Clap, why Hu as well?

My brain says null hear, but kinda feel a scum je nais se quois from nae here

[Alianna]

I hope Alianna comes back soon though, I want to talk to her, not a fan tbh.

I just opened this thread, not caught up yet but what did you want to talk about?

What do you make of Hu and Gamma seemingly following me blindly?

Hu's read on you kind of reminds me of their townread on KittyTacky in the last game we played, in that the strength of the townread seems disproportionate to the strength of the reasons they've given for it. They definitely did it to a greater extent in the other game, but I'm still going to call it +town.
I should probably check if they also do that as scum, but I don't feel like metadiving right now.
I can see Gamma's explanation in 136.

I also get a vibe from your posts that you are trying to seem genuine, yet somehow seem fake.

I just want more from you to get a better feel for you(again, focusing on those who seem more like veterans of this site lol).

It is weird feeling like the elder statesman here though.

I definitely would not consider myself a veteran XD.

[Alianna]

I hope Alianna comes back soon though, I want to talk to her, not a fan tbh.

I just opened this thread, not caught up yet but what did you want to talk about?

What do you make of Hu and Gamma seemingly following me blindly?

Hu's read on you kind of reminds me of their townread on KittyTacky in the last game we played, in that the strength of the townread seems disproportionate to the strength of the reasons they've given for it. They definitely did it to a greater extent in the other game, but I'm still going to call it +town.
I should probably check if they also do that as scum, but I don't feel like metadiving right now.
I can see Gamma's explanation in 136.

I also get a vibe from your posts that you are trying to seem genuine, yet somehow seem fake.

I just want more from you to get a better feel for you(again, focusing on those who seem more like veterans of this site lol).

It is weird feeling like the elder statesman here though.

I definitely would not consider myself a veteran XD.

suppose I should probably link the game

[FuDuzn]

VOTE: DragonEater70

This draconian leader must be overthrown! Anarchy must reign!!!

Creating fake dragon facts are encouraged. Deciding the leader of the dragons is a cannibal is a bad fact.

VOTE: Alianna

It's not a bad fact if it's true!

So you admit that it's either a bad fact, or a bad fake fact.........

I mean what is this about? From either angle it seems like a "let's attack here as I have nothing better to do" sort of thing ?

Cuz I can't see Anything other than that

Feck... I'm a baby here....

Please be gentle. So if I think so someone's spouting crap I should say so?

I'd strongly advise you to check out the guides about townplay that we have on the mafiascum wiki, they're way more insightful than what anyone here could reasonably say

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... y_Articles

And why specifically the townplay guides? This looks TMI-ish.
Though 39 does suggest you're aware of the info difference between town and scum, so it'd be kind of weird if you did actually TMI-slip and then

that

was your next post. Hmmmmmmmm, you can be a townlean for now (probably will have to check my logic tomorrow because it's getting pretty late and my brain is fried). I'm still interested in the answer to that question though.

Yeah I read the post and thought, how does they know I'm town? I thought it was only a thing scums would know...

These two posts from Zeb just scream town to me, feels like their reactions here are so genuine and pure. We may have an apprentice to our townblocc.

Alright, that was a quick run through of everyone I haven't really been paying attention to lol