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[ssbm_Kyouko]

how am I just constantly 50 posts behind

[Hu Tao]

{Gamma, Thomith, Jackson, Dragon}
The issue I have here is I think I'm townreading everyone in this list right now.

Glad you are townreading yourself but seriously why do you tr dragon?

Why do you SR me?

Your play reminds me of that last game you were scum

Can you elaborate?

I wish I could. When you're town you just have a different energy that I'm not seeing here.

[Black]

Gamma doesn't assume I have a guilty if she knows you're town, which she would know if she were scum and you were town. Therefore if you are town, she can't be scum. I'm not as sure on this as I am on how I read Gamma but I'm pretty sure this is the way she would think

I don't think this is true. Gamma would still have to play it out like a townie would, and she was adamant about wanting to quickfade and end the day. If Dragon flipped town then she could just use the excuse that she thought you had a guilty. I think this could come from either town!Gamma or scum!Gamma

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Because of how fast the DE70 wagon grew, I do also think there's at least 1 scum in [ssbm_Kyouko, Gamma Emerald, JacksonVirgo, Katsuki, Black, Hu Tao (not on the wagon, but mentioned multiple times they wanted to be.)]

2 of us wanted to lim DE yesterDay and 2 of us thought I had a guilty, so I'm not sure this makes sense. I don't think the speed is unusual given the circumstances

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma doesn't assume I have a guilty if she knows you're town, which she would know if she were scum and you were town. Therefore if you are town, she can't be scum. I'm not as sure on this as I am on how I read Gamma but I'm pretty sure this is the way she would think

I don't think this is true. Gamma would still have to play it out like a townie would, and she was adamant about wanting to quickfade and end the day. If Dragon flipped town then she could just use the excuse that she thought you had a guilty.

I think this could come from either town!Gamma

or scum!Gamma

frfr?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Gamma doesn't assume I have a guilty if she knows you're town, which she would know if she were scum and you were town. Therefore if you are town, she can't be scum. I'm not as sure on this as I am on how I read Gamma but I'm pretty sure this is the way she would think

I don't think this is true. Gamma would still have to play it out like a townie would, and she was adamant about wanting to quickfade and end the day. If Dragon flipped town then she could just use the excuse that she thought you had a guilty. I think this could come from either town!Gamma or scum!Gamma

@Gamma am I being too presumptuous about how you think here? Am I wrong?

[Black]

frfr

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I don't like kyouko trying to get Dragon away from the Gamma wagon, especially considering she thinks Dragon is scum?

Gamma/kyouko is a possible pair

going to skip over anything else like this til Gamma confirms/denies my assumption

[Black]

I think the whole scenario makes more sense if Gamma/Dragon are both scum now that I'm thinking about it. That would also explain why Gamma was like "I could do Dragon but I'd rather do kyouko"

[Black]

My thoughts are all over the place

[Black]

I think the whole scenario makes more sense if Gamma/Dragon are both scum now that I'm thinking about it. That would also explain why Gamma was like "I could do Dragon but I'd rather do kyouko"

To elaborate on this, if Gamma thinks kyouko got a guilty on her scumbuddy, she would likely jump on the wagon and try to bus early while simultaneously shading people that didn't want to vote Dragon and end the day like she did with me/Hu

[Katsuki]

I was hoping to full send the wagon, but it was definitely a stretch. But you dilly-dallying probably ruined it

As much as I wanted a chance to look at the game today and post, I could never complain about quicknoms and sub24hr days lol.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma doesn't assume I have a guilty if she knows you're town, which she would know if she were scum and you were town. Therefore if you are town, she can't be scum. I'm not as sure on this as I am on how I read Gamma but I'm pretty sure this is the way she would think

I don't think this is true. Gamma would still have to play it out like a townie would, and she was adamant about wanting to quickfade and end the day. If Dragon flipped town then she could just use the excuse that she thought you had a guilty. I think this could come from either town!Gamma or scum!Gamma

@Gamma am I being too presumptuous about how you think here? Am I wrong?

Here’s my idea. I would know you didn’t have a guilty if I’m scum and Dragon is town. But there’s the possibility that I can pretend to think that you had one. Thus if someone wants to argue me!scum and Dragon!town, their burden of proof is to show that thought process from me.

[Black]

{Gamma, Thomith, Jackson, Dragon}
The issue I have here is I think I'm townreading everyone in this list right now.

Glad you are townreading yourself but seriously why do you tr dragon?

Why do you SR me?

Your play reminds me of that last game you were scum

Can you elaborate?

I wish I could. When you're town you just have a different energy that I'm not seeing here.

I think I'm talking myself into a Dragon vote if you would rather do that over Gamma

[Thomith]

Because of how fast the DE70 wagon grew, I do also think there's at least 1 scum in [ssbm_Kyouko, Gamma Emerald, JacksonVirgo, Katsuki, Black, Hu Tao (not on the wagon, but mentioned multiple times they wanted to be.)]

2 of us wanted to lim DE yesterDay and 2 of us thought I had a guilty, so I'm not sure this makes sense. I don't think the speed is unusual given the circumstances

If I didn't mention this in that post I meant to, but people thinking there was a guilty potentially skews this assumption.

[Katsuki]

Well majority seems to think there is a scum in kyouko/gamma/Dragon.

Possibly two

Now the question is, which players do you think believe in that latter statement?

[Gamma Emerald]

Well majority seems to think there is a scum in kyouko/gamma/Dragon.

Possibly two

Now the question is, which players do you think believe in that latter statement?

Can you explain why you ask this once Hu Tao answers?

[Black]

Well majority seems to think there is a scum in kyouko/gamma/Dragon.

Possibly two

Now the question is, which players do you think believe in that latter statement?

Did you really read 100 posts in 2 minutes and this was the only thing you wanted to comment on?

[Katsuki]

I was going to try to roleswap with Kyouko if another person left the Dragon wagon

Hu Tao trying to stall for time was absolutely heinous

This is the kind of "100%" reaction I'm talking about btw - notably "absolutely heinous". The words like, ring out when she means them

So what do the 90-110% reactions look like? Like

"absolutely heinos"

and

"absolutely heinouss

"?

[Gamma Emerald]

lmao

[Katsuki]

Well majority seems to think there is a scum in kyouko/gamma/Dragon.

Possibly two

Now the question is, which players do you think believe in that latter statement?

Did you really read 100 posts in 2 minutes and this was the only thing you wanted to comment on?

I haven't read, it was one of the p-edits that caught my eye on scroll thru.

[Katsuki]

I have 10 pgs to catch up on, lovely.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I could see Gamma/Kyo. I felt it was really weird Kyo didn't have a read on Gamma yesterday. I do feel something doesn't fully add up though woth how hard Kyo is TRing Gamma - I'm not sure wolf!Kyo is actually likely to TR a partner that heavily.

Because of the Rhyming D1 I do see why it may have been harder.

Like nobody is listening to how the read works - if Gamma makes a certain kind of post or string of posts, I can read *just that* and know off of 1-5 posts if she's town or scum. She makes a post/posts like this in, if I had to guess, maybe 70% of her games if not more. I'm a confbias-prone player. I've found that if I pay too much attention to her, I can get confbiased into scum- or town-reading Gamma before she makes a post like this and it clouds my ability to identify and assess the post.

This is "the post"

I was going to try to roleswap with Kyouko if another person left the Dragon wagon
Hu Tao trying to stall for time was absolutely heinous

Reading this - specifically "absolutely heinous" - this is a post I can identify as the key to Gamma's alignment. Looking back then, at the context of what Hu Tao did to elicit this reaction, I can see that it makes perfect sense that Gamma reacted this way, and the post doesn't sound forced. Gamma is reacting at 100%. Not 90%, not 110%. Gamma is town here and I'd stake the game on it.

I literally don't care what the rest of her ISO before that says for the purposes of reading her. I'll care if I think she's going on the wrong track now that I know she's town, but beyond that it doesn't matter. She's locked.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I gotta go get my kid, still not caught up

[Hu Tao]

Well majority seems to think there is a scum in kyouko/gamma/Dragon.

Possibly two

Now the question is, which players do you think believe in that latter statement?

The people that were talking at the time