Mini 2321: Classic Commercials (Postgame)

[Dunnstral]

I think it's Celebloki and Flavor Leaf.

wait, aren't there 3 Scum? b r u h

I don't know who the last mafia would be yet.

I am an Even Night Gunsmith. I got No Result on Night 2.

No you aren't. You got checked as a VT in 1821. If that's not true you should have voted for Celebloki the previous day.

[Bingle]

I feel like maestro is probably scum looking to derail the 1v1, but I know celeb is scum mechanically. We always go celeb first here.

[Celebloki]

No we always go Bingle here, but I'm also okay with Maestro. I didn't vote Bingle off the rip because I don't see a need to rush the day and spend some time having a discussion. I think it's telling who is willing to throw votes around when a quick lim is possible, fortunately no one I think is town has voted me, so I don't think I'm in danger just yet.

Not sure what FL is trying to do with his claim, interesting that Maestro took the bait.

[Hu Tao]

Interesting development. What's the vote count?

[Hu Tao]

I just need the vote count and I can try to solve this.

[DragonEater70]

flavor

VC 4.01

VC 4.01

Celebloki (2): Bingle, Maestro
Maestro (1): Flavor Leaf

Not voting (4): Hu Tao, Dunnstral, Celebloki, Naerys

It takes 4 votes to eliminate someone.

Deadline: (expired on 2024-01-21 14:25:00).

combined mod ISO: here

[Hu Tao]

Interesting play by flavor to fake claim gs :lol

[Hu Tao]

Ok I trust Dunn and naerys to not vote so all should be fine to take our time with this if needed

[Hu Tao]

Celeb can you tell me why you're not voting your guilty?

[Flavor Leaf]

Same.

So yeah, I’m not a Gunsmith. Needed to see people reactions. Celeb is looking like possible town here.

Idk who the scum in Celeb or Bingle is.

But Maestro is confirmed scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

From my pov

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m leaning Celeb town

[Celebloki]

It's mainly an optics issue for me. Through terrible, out of character, play surrounding my claim I haven't garnered much support from town. I have a hard guilty and have no qualms voting Bingle straight out the gates, but only I know for certain it's a hard guilty. My claim is not confirmed for anyone else. I'm on terribly thin ice and if I want to win with the town, I need to somehow gain good will. Considering how on thin ice I am, I think I have a responsibility to be careful so town doesn't immediately lose from my mis-elim.

I see voting immediately in ELO as not a move that generates good will. It only takes one misvote by a townie to end the game if all the scum players are around and ready. I think scum have more of an interest in trying to push things quickly without any discussion or analysis. Remaining town players may see me voting Bingle as needlessly hasty.

[Celebloki]

Considering I know FL is a VT and that his vote on Maestro hasn't caused a quick hammer tells me Maestro is basically confirmed scum too.

[Flavor Leaf]

Bingle + Maestro + 1

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Naerys is probably with town.

Meaning there’s 1 town in Hu Tao or Dunnstral.

This day phase is about finding who the 4 townies are not necessarily who the 3 scum are.

So Hu Tao/Dunnstral, please say who you think the 4 townies are in this game.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Naerys is probably with town.

Meaning there’s 1 town in Hu Tao or Dunnstral.

This day phase is about finding who the 4 townies are not necessarily who the 3 scum are.

So Hu Tao/Dunnstral, please say who you think the 4 townies are in this game.

Might as well have everyone in the game do this

[Celebloki]

Me, FL, Hu Tao, and Naerys are my most likely 4 townies. I see partner equity between Dunn and Bingle, so its more that Dunn is the third scummiest for me. That leaves Hu and Naerys as town by PoE.

I think if the game makes it to 3p, Dunn is definitely one of the 3.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, I’m leaning Hu Tao Tuesdays for Town.

Dunn, Bingle, Maestro.

Maestro is conf scum for me bar scum not being able to come online at the same time to hammer.

[Hu Tao]

Naerys can you give me your thoughts? Who is scum do you think? Everyone else besides me and Dunn has someone confirmed scum to them. And dunn gave his views already

[Naerys]

Maestro hopping on Cele is either really bad play or scummy. It kinda reeks with trying to put some psychological pressure on us. Sheepier townies would give in to that and allow speedy mislim.
I dont like Celebloki´s hammer and his reasoning for it, but that Maestro´s vote... the more i think about the less i like it. Its timing, they way he voted.
I dont think i can see a universe where Cele+Maestro are alligned? For scum to fake guilty and his buddy trying to buss him at this point does not make sense. Bingle and Maestro probably buddies
Therefore Bingle+Maestro+Dunn feels rather likely to me

[Flavor Leaf]

I think that means we’re lined up on a Flavor/Celeb/Naerys or Bingle/Maestro/Dunn with Hu Tao as the deciding factor.

It’s possible there’s a slip in that, but i think it is what it is.

[Flavor Leaf]

Imo it makes sense one of Bingle or Hu Tao were always gonna be scum here based on how earlier in the game went, and I am seeing the “hmm who’s scum” energy behind Hu Tao.

I also just have a hard time seeing Celeb as scum based on when they talk.

And Roden vs Bingle is rough too.

Bingle cut ties with Maestro scum as partners pretty funny

[Dunnstral]

Maestro hopping on Cele is either really bad play or scummy. It kinda reeks with trying to put some psychological pressure on us. Sheepier townies would give in to that and allow speedy mislim.
I dont like Celebloki´s hammer and his reasoning for it, but that Maestro´s vote... the more i think about the less i like it. Its timing, they way he voted.
I dont think i can see a universe where Cele+Maestro are alligned? For scum to fake guilty and his buddy trying to buss him at this point does not make sense. Bingle and Maestro probably buddies
Therefore Bingle+Maestro+Dunn feels rather likely to me

There's something off about this. Your read on Celeboki is only based on them hammering without considering the rest. And your reasoning for flipping your read is based on something that only happened today too.

[Hu Tao]

Dunnstral is making good points here