Mini Normal 2322: Game Over

[DragonEater70]

That's great

That's what I wanted since Day 1

So let's go gera? Or idk maybe Black but I do wanna see if she's gonna change her read or just tunnel and what else she thinks about the game.

[Pavowski]

Is that a recent development Flavor? I've been waiting on somebody to tell me if my recent reason to town read Hu Tao is crazy

[Flavor Leaf]

This is the bad place

Pav, i see it now.

[Black]

You'll also notice I unvoted HPE, because I acknowledged it was a weak reason, then decided to revote because my gut told me it was correct.

Dragon would have no killed two nights in a row if scum here

Yep, he did it in this game that I keep referencing. And he also called me town super early that game when I hadn't done much, similar to what he did with Hu this game

I'm trying to decide if scum!Dragon would pull the same stunt in games that are so close together

Did it work in that game?

Yes, but my play this game andthat game had been vastly different. In that one I wasn't even efforting.

Are these things supposed to implicate you as town? And iirc you weren't efforting that game because you were super busy IRL. Seems weird for you to try and use that as an argument for different play

[Flavor Leaf]

Is that a recent development Flavor? I've been waiting on somebody to tell me if my recent reason to town read Hu Tao is crazy

I think I was right with Gamma/Geraint a second ago, and that explains the stall in the game since Gamma been gone.

I also did have a disconnect with Gamma that I don’t usually have, but Gamma also knows how to work me, whereas Black isn’t familiar with how to work TownFlavor.

I just see all the reasons for why Dragon is mech and objectively scum, and in my heart, I just don’t believe it.

Like all these posts Black is making, I made at some point in the game—I see them.

I even see similarities in the game Black linked, and I just don’t feel like it’s Dragon here either.

[Pavowski]

This is the bad place

Pav, i see it now.

[Black]

That's great

That's what I wanted since Day 1

So let's go gera? Or idk maybe Black but I do wanna see if she's gonna change her read or just tunnel and what else she thinks about the game.

I'm going to eventually look at other things but I do think you're scum. And you threatening to discredit my read as tunneling unless I change it doesn't make me feel any better about you

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma going after Pav earlier until realizing she could possibly get out the Dragon/Hu Tao blank wall town core along with my read on Hu Tao does look like Gamma was the leading scum.

And it also fits with why Geraint is going Pav.

[Black]

Who are your scumreads FL?

[Flavor Leaf]

Who are your scumreads FL?

I have pushed everybody except Pav and CW (Random) this day phase.

I have said I believe there to be 1 scum in Dragon/Hu Tao/Purple all day phase, and kinda held up the game to get there.

Dragon was my main push for the day, and I kind of settled into Hu Tao, with a side order here and there of Purple.

We got into a big lull after Gamma left, and I felt like compromising to Geraint. Right before you replaced in, I started to lean Gamma/Geraint.

[Black]

I will look into Geraint when I get some time later. If you have a post where you summarize your case on them you can link it and I'll start there

[Black]

This is definitely a 3 scum game right?

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, 3 scum.

And Geraint hasn’t really done much, and that’s kinda the thing.

They also limiting their push to Pav.

And HPE, day that one knew they were going down, spam pushed Geraint too hard, so either distancing or trying to act like it was distancing.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m kind of feeling like Black is the play today, if scum, go Geraint, if town, go Dragon tomorrow.

Something feels weird.

[Black]

I’m kind of feeling like Black is the play today, if scum, go Geraint, if town, go Dragon tomorrow.

Something feels weird.

Why was Gamma scummy fypov?

[Flavor Leaf]

For what it’s worth, I was feeling this before Black replaced in, at least heading that way.

Black’s played well, but they’re not familiar with me in that way, and I think Gamma knowing how to ebb and flow with me as scum makes a lot of sense here.

[Black]

It feels kinda strange that I seem to be unknowingly tapping into your thought process and yet you don't consider that a sign that I have a town perspective

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m kind of feeling like Black is the play today, if scum, go Geraint, if town, go Dragon tomorrow.

Something feels weird.

Why was Gamma scummy fypov?

I don’t really have any strong reasons.

I was defending Gamma most of this game.

But it really is coming down to, I am pretty confidently starting to town read Hu Tao, and I’ve town read Pav all game.

And those are Gamma’s pushes. To be fair, I think they sheeped me on Hu Tao.

And it’s the fact the game slowed tremendously when Gamma left, meaning scum lost their wolf leader (i think they lost it with HPE since Gamma also replaced in)

On top of that, while town reading Hu Tao like I am, I kind of trust her gut read on Joyboy more now, the original slot holder.

[Flavor Leaf]

It feels kinda strange that I seem to be unknowingly tapping into your thought process and yet you don't consider that a sign that I have a town perspective

It does feel strange. I’m not ready to commit to anything yet.

[Black]

Gamma isn't exactly known to have high accuracy as town, so her pushing townies isn't scum indicative

Anyway I'm town, so you should reconsider your plan today and maybe help me fade scum

[Flavor Leaf]

There’s an intangible that Dragon has this game that is really hard to fake as scum, and while mechanically and objectively it does look like scum, if Gamma was scum, it does make sense, and it’s really starting to become a POE thing.

On top of that, you tapping into my mindset subconsciously, with the idea Gamma could have been hoping that they could warlock me and have me lead her to victory makes a lot of sense to me now too, Gamma just knew how to warlock me into it.

Whereas you are comfortable enough to do it yourself.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Pav - do you feel what I’m saying about the intangible with Dragon?

[Flavor Leaf]

BTW

Flavor, the reason I haven't been very excited to sheep you onto Hu Tao has to do with seeing you try to push town!Tao in the other game. So with no disrespect meant, I am aware of the possibility that you have a wrong meta read on her.

That game helped me town read Hu Tao too, so I do get this, and understand your read throughout this game.

Gamma was doing the same thing Bingle was doing and trying to not let Hu Tao-FL from town reading each other.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think that last game was the first time Hu Tao and I lost as town/town together.

[Hu Tao]

Black replaces Gamma Emerald.

Yaaay!