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[Enchant]

at least Naerys is outed.

Not happy with it as well.

[Gypyx]

yall basic

I mean, you're pretty obviously not a PR, that's the issue

wont age well

Spoiler: big picture

[Comical]

at least Naerys is outed.

Not happy with it as well.

then look past the surface

because they're able to make it through as a conf town to the next day because of their claim

[Enchant]

at least Naerys is outed.

Not happy with it as well.

then look past the surface

because they're able to make it through as a conf town to the next day because of their claim

Not were in danger at first place.


Silence is Gold. Don't forget it.

[Comical]

win-win-win

frankly, this game is over.

it's Lap + Hu Tao or Lap + Lucca like almost always this game unless Delta scum.

mass claim would trap scum, but we can be basicc with 2 c's this game, that's fine. Naerys already outed, so solid chances.

Scum kill me, I flip, and then sheep my reads after im conf towned.

[Comical]

at least Naerys is outed.

Not happy with it as well.

then look past the surface

because they're able to make it through as a conf town to the next day because of their claim

Not were in danger at first place.


Silence is Gold. Don't forget it.

yeah, fool's gold.

[Comical]

we got 2 lock townies now, solve around it. Lap is obv red.

[Enchant]

at least Naerys is outed.

Not happy with it as well.

then look past the surface

because they're able to make it through as a conf town to the next day because of their claim

Not were in danger at first place.


Silence is Gold. Don't forget it.

yeah, fool's gold.

Who are fool, who are sage, will be sorted with graves.

[Comical]

maybe we do just policy enchant

[Enchant]

How petty.

[Comical]

*pretty

[DeltaWave]

win-win-win

frankly, this game is over.

it's Lap + Hu Tao or Lap + Lucca like almost always this game unless Delta scum.

mass claim would trap scum, but we can be basicc with 2 c's this game, that's fine. Naerys already outed, so solid chances.

Scum kill me, I flip, and then sheep my reads after im conf towned.

1. We are not going to mass claim.

2. Even if you are a PR, your reads are not somehow more reliable just because you die.

[Comical]

yeah, you guys are boring, found that out already

keep on with the discrediting. ;P my reads are 100% more reliable when I die.

yall can be fools and think otherwise, though

[Enchant]

VOTE: Laplacian

[DragonEater70]

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Enchant (4):

Naerys, Laplacian, Hu Tao, Deltawave

Laplacian (3):

Comical, Gypyx, Enchant

lucca261 (1):

Prince of Paterson

Not Voting (2):

Upwards, lucca261

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to throw someone to the lions.

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[Upwards]

And now you argue because of him you won’t answer my question?

What is your question?

What do you make of 1031?

Meta is unreliable. But yes, these my previous games.

Now that’s a start at least. But in what way unreliable? Do you acknowledge a difference between your Town and Scum gameplay in there and argue that it can’t be used for reference in future games, or is your argument that there’s no meaningful difference to begin with?

There's Town games which can be compared with Mafia ones. Ultimately, only thing are changed is my starting knowledge.

If i knew about difference, i will eliminate it or defy it.

So the latter, yes?

[Upwards]

I've already explained that. I asked Margot why she wanted to defend GE so badly because Margot seemed convinced 100% that GE would flip town. That was a very sus level of certainty on D1. Of course, that's because Margot knew exactly how GE was going to flip. If Margot wasn't vigged I would have come out of the gate on D2 with this.

So in that case shouldn’t you have dropped your Gamma vote like you had announced previously?

I have explained this multiple times. I don't know why I keep having to explain it, especially to you. However, I am going to explain it one last time. A lot of time passed between those two posts and the inactives got active. Because Hu withdrew his intention to quickhammer, I didn't think Gamma was in any immediate risk of being hammered and I wanted to put pressure on her. I did not expect Gamma to self-hammer and anyone who says they expect that is lying to themselves.

Sure, Gammas Selfvote was a surprise, but isn’t the whole point of E-1 that anyone could hammer at any time? Because otherwise, where would that pressure even come from?

[Upwards]

Also feels like Upwards fake, amirite

I said fake fake fakity fake

Fake fake fakity fake

Feels like the MACHO MAN snapped into your slim Jim, ooooh yeeeeaaah

I can’t speak for the macho man

Ok then, please just let me hear your own thoughts on 1005.

I think your gamma vote specifically and how it came about was townie.

After i saw the rest of your gameplay, and how you’re still learning the forum mafia style like this, and i kinda felt like you vibe check voted Gamma.

I also agree with pings on Hu Tao/Delta, i don’t really have concrete for Hu Tao.

Ok now where’s this complete 180 coming from? Also I most definitely don’t want to vibe check, I am trying to use logic here.

[Upwards]

45-7

Spoiler:

I don't really think that Enchant - Upwards on this page is TvT honestly. @1111 feels incredibly aggressive when Upwards did not really play like that the whole game. In fact, I think felt like he faked the aggression after being questioned by Gyp on Enchant. (which I can see him doing as town, btw).
And Enchant had his first game determinative post of the game. The fact it was after questioning by Upwards of all people is weird.

It not only feels that way, it really is unusually aggressive for my standards and I meant every word. For the simple reason that I realized that I won’t make progress here otherwise.


Now that you’re back, I’d still be interested in the answer you promised in 1006. As well as elaborating on your 1209if you will.

[Enchant]

And now you argue because of him you won’t answer my question?

What is your question?

What do you make of 1031?

Meta is unreliable. But yes, these my previous games.

Now that’s a start at least. But in what way unreliable? Do you acknowledge a difference between your Town and Scum gameplay in there and argue that it can’t be used for reference in future games, or is your argument that there’s no meaningful difference to begin with?

There's Town games which can be compared with Mafia ones. Ultimately, only thing are changed is my starting knowledge.

If i knew about difference, i will eliminate it or defy it.

So the latter, yes?

There's no denial that i may act differently. But if i noticed it, i would imitate it.

I don't know the answers.

[DeltaWave]

yeah, you guys are boring, found that out already

keep on with the discrediting. ;P my reads are 100% more reliable when I die.

yall can be fools and think otherwise, though

I thought Clap was town and Mucho seemed town but the gimmick was throwing me off, but now you are rolling down a hill while hitting every tree and rock on the way. Clap's town aura is still present in the air somewhat - but I don't like the call for a mass-claim and why you would claim to be a protective role for no apparent reason is mystifying to me. It smells very much like you are hunting for PRs by doing all of this and it is stinky. I can see no possible way that a mass-claim on Day 2 is going to help town. All it does is gather more information for a night-kill while making things more complicated for actual town PRs, who would either have to (1) out themselves or (2) lie and then potentially subject themselves to a mis-elim later if they have to tell the truth because they got some information during the night phase.

I still want to put you in the townpool if only because of Clap but this whole line of argument is really rubbing me the wrong way.

[DeltaWave]

I've already explained that. I asked Margot why she wanted to defend GE so badly because Margot seemed convinced 100% that GE would flip town. That was a very sus level of certainty on D1. Of course, that's because Margot knew exactly how GE was going to flip. If Margot wasn't vigged I would have come out of the gate on D2 with this.

So in that case shouldn’t you have dropped your Gamma vote like you had announced previously?

I have explained this multiple times. I don't know why I keep having to explain it, especially to you. However, I am going to explain it one last time. A lot of time passed between those two posts and the inactives got active. Because Hu withdrew his intention to quickhammer, I didn't think Gamma was in any immediate risk of being hammered and I wanted to put pressure on her. I did not expect Gamma to self-hammer and anyone who says they expect that is lying to themselves.

Sure, Gammas Selfvote was a surprise, but isn’t the whole point of E-1 that anyone could hammer at any time? Because otherwise, where would that pressure even come from?

An unannounced quickhammer can also be a source of valuable information. As I've said many times, the only person who expressed a desire to quickhammer was Hu but he changed his mind.

How long are you going to try to milk this for? Gotta cling to something I guess but surely you can fabricate something a little more creative.

[Comical]

What scum asks for mass claim like that Delta?


Looking faaaaaake af

[Comical]

Also feels like Upwards fake, amirite

I said fake fake fakity fake

Fake fake fakity fake

Feels like the MACHO MAN snapped into your slim Jim, ooooh yeeeeaaah

I can’t speak for the macho man

Ok then, please just let me hear your own thoughts on 1005.

I think your gamma vote specifically and how it came about was townie.

After i saw the rest of your gameplay, and how you’re still learning the forum mafia style like this, and i kinda felt like you vibe check voted Gamma.

I also agree with pings on Hu Tao/Delta, i don’t really have concrete for Hu Tao.

Ok now where’s this complete 180 coming from? Also I most definitely don’t want to vibe check, I am trying to use logic here.

I clearly switched how i read you after I read the game.

[Comical]

I’m also semi baiting with my energy to try and see who tries to pounce.

Lap and Delta are the two biggest offenders of that, but I’m starting to think Delta just town who doesn’t get ‘it’.