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DeltaWave she/her/hersMafia Scumshe/her/hers
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The way I see it is this: there absolutely has to be scum in the 1v1 per the setup rules. Period.
Enchant is gamethrowing either way and could be doing as scum (maybe to avoid associating with their buddy in the 1v1) or less likely, as town. Even so, the 1v1 is a much clearer source of scum than Enchant is. The issue behind the 1v1 is pure game mechanics, e.g. there cannot be two docs in a game. That's clear as day. Whatever Enchant's doing is not as clear. (Do not read this as me defending Enchant in any way, shape, or form. I'm saying that the 1v1 is better for finding scum.)When there's trouble, you call DW.
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Because that's not how you deal with someone trolling you?In post 1523, Laplacian wrote:
True, so why not just end it?In post 1521, Gypyx wrote:
they're gamethrowing either wayIn post 1518, Laplacian wrote:
How does validation come in to this? Enchant claimed Scum on page 60; they're either scum or gamethrowing. And I'd like to know which as soon as possible so we can either a) win by resolving the 1v1 or b) can stop caring.In post 1516, Gypyx wrote: let's not validate whatever enchant's pulling right now plsWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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I am not trolling, i didn't even post NM avatar this game once.Wizard-Mercenary
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There's only one variant where my actions harm my faction and this variant likelyhood are almost zero.
So i am perfectly content.Wizard-Mercenary
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btw that's bonkers that this is a common occurence for enchant to act like thatIn post 1499, Hu Tao wrote: He's scum. He acts like this as scum.
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Naerys sheMafia Scumshe
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No, Enchant needs to go. Dot.In post 1525, DeltaWave wrote: The way I see it is this: there absolutely has to be scum in the 1v1 per the setup rules. Period.
Enchant is gamethrowing either way and could be doing as scum (maybe to avoid associating with their buddy in the 1v1) or less likely, as town. Even so, the 1v1 is a much clearer source of scum than Enchant is. The issue behind the 1v1 is pure game mechanics, e.g. there cannot be two docs in a game. That's clear as day. Whatever Enchant's doing is not as clear. (Do not read this as me defending Enchant in any way, shape, or form. I'm saying that the 1v1 is better for finding scum.)-
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you can just not read whatever he has to sayWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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DeltaWave she/her/hersMafia Scumshe/her/hers
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Shouldn't you be crusading against the guy that counter-claimed you?In post 1513, Laplacian wrote:
k. VOTE: EnchantIn post 1495, Enchant wrote: I am mafia, i give up.
We get Enchant today so there's guaranteed a doc on Naerys, resolve the 1v1 tomorrow, ggezWhen there's trouble, you call DW.
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I don't care much anymore who we eliminate, as long as Comical dies if Lap is town, but why is it throwing for Comical and not for Lap? Lap CC'd eagerly and earlier than he should have. He didn't need to lock himself into that 1v1 and guarantee his death if he's scum.In post 1488, DeltaWave wrote: My problem is that aside from this whole counter-claim debacle I can't read Lap or Comical as scum. But the unavoidable conclusion is that one has to be. If Comical is scum then they are basically throwing the game, so I'm going with that.
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DeltaWave she/her/hersMafia Scumshe/her/hers
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I'll re-read that whole interaction when I'm not between meetings but one factor that I've taken note of recently is that Comical is chowing down on Lap (as you would expect from a PR that was counter-claimed) but Lap doesn't have that same aggressiveness. Usually when a legitimate PR is counter-claimed they go nuts on the person who did that.In post 1534, Prince of Paterson wrote:
I don't care much anymore who we eliminate, as long as Comical dies if Lap is town, but why is it throwing for Comical and not for Lap? Lap CC'd eagerly and earlier than he should have. He didn't need to lock himself into that 1v1 and guarantee his death if he's scum.In post 1488, DeltaWave wrote: My problem is that aside from this whole counter-claim debacle I can't read Lap or Comical as scum. But the unavoidable conclusion is that one has to be. If Comical is scum then they are basically throwing the game, so I'm going with that.
VOTE: LaplacianWhen there's trouble, you call DW.
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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You could also see this as a last-ditch effort for scum!lap to bring comical with them into the graveIn post 1534, Prince of Paterson wrote:
I don't care much anymore who we eliminate, as long as Comical dies if Lap is town, but why is it throwing for Comical and not for Lap? Lap CC'd eagerly and earlier than he should have. He didn't need to lock himself into that 1v1 and guarantee his death if he's scum.In post 1488, DeltaWave wrote: My problem is that aside from this whole counter-claim debacle I can't read Lap or Comical as scum. But the unavoidable conclusion is that one has to be. If Comical is scum then they are basically throwing the game, so I'm going with that.
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Laplacian he/theyGoonhe/they
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Was super busy yesterday (first day of classes) and did not have the energy to respond to Comical's four thousand posts in one day. Enchant said they're scum, and the 1v1 wins us the game either order. As far as I'm concerned, I don't have to try anymore, town win is inevitable.In post 1535, DeltaWave wrote:
I'll re-read that whole interaction when I'm not between meetings but one factor that I've taken note of recently is that Comical is chowing down on Lap (as you would expect from a PR that was counter-claimed) but Lap doesn't have that same aggressiveness. Usually when a legitimate PR is counter-claimed they go nuts on the person who did that.In post 1534, Prince of Paterson wrote:
I don't care much anymore who we eliminate, as long as Comical dies if Lap is town, but why is it throwing for Comical and not for Lap? Lap CC'd eagerly and earlier than he should have. He didn't need to lock himself into that 1v1 and guarantee his death if he's scum.In post 1488, DeltaWave wrote: My problem is that aside from this whole counter-claim debacle I can't read Lap or Comical as scum. But the unavoidable conclusion is that one has to be. If Comical is scum then they are basically throwing the game, so I'm going with that.
VOTE: Laplacian
But notice when Comical began pushing on me. Enchant, who as of pg 60 said they're scum, was the obvious vote leader, probably having 24 hours left or so before someone hammered. Comical sees scumbud in peril and town doing good at 2v8, and decides I'm the next easiest wagon to get going. They throw everything at the wall, going full quantity of post over quality of evidence, even including a fakeclaim to try to get anything to stick on me and divert attention away from Enchant. The timing is perfect for that, but he didn't expect the CC into 1v1 with a guaranteed scum because of the simple normal rules-
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Laplacian he/theyGoonhe/they
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Note that the inevitable town win is assuming Enchant's scum claim isn't gamethrowing town. If it is, then I'm also not going to try because the game is broken and idgaf-
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Laplacian he/theyGoonhe/they
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In post 1534, Prince of Paterson wrote:
I don't care much anymore who we eliminate, as long as Comical dies if Lap is town, but why is it throwing for Comical and not for Lap? Lap CC'd eagerly and earlier than he should have. He didn't need to lock himself into that 1v1 and guarantee his death if he's scum.In post 1488, DeltaWave wrote: My problem is that aside from this whole counter-claim debacle I can't read Lap or Comical as scum. But the unavoidable conclusion is that one has to be. If Comical is scum then they are basically throwing the game, so I'm going with that.
VOTE: Laplacian
Made that exact point in 1464. If I'm scum, my play is suicidal af. Comical is just getting all the attention because 50% of the posts in the last 10 pages are him desperately flailing. He tried a gambit to save Enchant, it backfired hard.-
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You caught us.........................................................................................
Our plan to sacrifice more powerful player to let me, Enchant, be deep wolf.
It was perfect plan WHICH IS RUINED.Wizard-Mercenary
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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He does this as scum to get people to town read him.In post 1517, DeltaWave wrote:In post 1516, Gypyx wrote: let's not validate whatever enchant's pulling right now plsIn post 1516, Gypyx wrote: let's not validate whatever enchant's pulling right now plsIn post 1516, Gypyx wrote: let's not validate whatever enchant's pulling right now pls^^^^^^^^^
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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i hate itIn post 1541, Hu Tao wrote:
He does this as scum to get people to town read him.In post 1517, DeltaWave wrote:In post 1516, Gypyx wrote: let's not validate whatever enchant's pulling right now plsIn post 1516, Gypyx wrote: let's not validate whatever enchant's pulling right now plsIn post 1516, Gypyx wrote: let's not validate whatever enchant's pulling right now pls^^^^^^^^^
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Both docs should be on naerys who is conf town. So we keep her alive. This is why we don't go in docs today. Then we go enchant today.-
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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what's the benefit of leaving naerys alive for tomorow thoWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Confirmed town means less vote options. Bonus points for flygon avatar.In post 1544, Gypyx wrote: what's the benefit of leaving naerys alive for tomorow tho-
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In post 1544, Gypyx wrote: what's the benefit of leaving naerys alive for tomorow tho-
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<3In post 1546, Naerys wrote:In post 1544, Gypyx wrote: what's the benefit of leaving naerys alive for tomorow thoWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Prince of Paterson he/himGoonhe/him
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Having fewer vote options doesn't matter if we're resolving the 1v1.-
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Aren't we instawin by finding mafia outside?
... You know that mafia member you need to hunt after 1vs1 anyway?Wizard-Mercenary
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