Mini Normal 2322: Game Over
-
-
Pavowski He/himMafia ScumHe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2954
- Joined: May 25, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Bowling, probably
-
-
Flavor Leaf Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 42893
- Joined: July 17, 2017
- Location: San Francisco
nah, a misfade late in the game isn't doing someone dirty, especially after the day we had yesterday. More of a testament to scum team.In post 3648, Pavowski wrote:
Not blaming a damn thing on Black for at least 24 hours, we did her dirtyIn post 3647, Flavor Leaf wrote: Wanna fade Hu Tao and blame it on Black if they’re town?
-1 to Pav.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
-
Pavowski He/himMafia ScumHe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2954
- Joined: May 25, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Bowling, probably
You misunderstandIn post 3651, Flavor Leaf wrote:
nah, a misfade late in the game isn't doing someone dirty, especially after the day we had yesterday. More of a testament to scum team.In post 3648, Pavowski wrote:
Not blaming a damn thing on Black for at least 24 hours, we did her dirtyIn post 3647, Flavor Leaf wrote: Wanna fade Hu Tao and blame it on Black if they’re town?
-1 to Pav.
I'm saying she came in as town and gave it a go, if we misyeet Hu Tao today we can hardly blame that on Black(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)-
-
Pavowski He/himMafia ScumHe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2954
- Joined: May 25, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Bowling, probably
Fmpov, obviously, it's in purple/gera/hu tao if Dragon is legit, but shit, that wifom is brutal, like it's already hurting my head and I'm not thinking all that hard about it yet
I'm probably a lot more ready to vote either gera/purple before either hu tao or dragon right now. I tend to agree with you, Dragon has worked too hard for it
Well I mean obviously I'm ready to vote purple
Maybe we yeet Geraint first, maybe that gives us more to go on? Damn...(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)-
-
Pavowski He/himMafia ScumHe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2954
- Joined: May 25, 2021
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: Bowling, probably
I guess I need to get rid of the idea of "first", we bollocks it up here we're just about cooked(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)-
-
Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 8401
- Joined: December 24, 2022
- Pronoun: she/her
WhyIn post 3649, Pavowski wrote:
Really? I think RN kill is the obvious move for scum last night regardless of who it isIn post 3646, Flavor Leaf wrote: RN kill does lean towards scum in Hu Tao/Dragon, though-
-
Flavor Leaf Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 42893
- Joined: July 17, 2017
- Location: San Francisco
Pavowski 0Started at +1thanks to the game we've had.Hu Tao -1Been thinking they were scum a lot of the game, Black Town flip puts them at a -1 here. DragonEater +1There's a lot of things that have to be true for Dragon to be scum, and I just don't believe they're all happening. An Intangible and amount of effort puts them +1. PurpleHeart -12 Votes this game. 2 Hammers. Sitting in back. Geraint -1Sussed out Pavowski/Purple. Have seen some town stuff, but the way they vote is possible to protect a partner, not positive, though. CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
-
Purplemango He/him + any neosGoonHe/him + any neos
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 302
- Joined: September 1, 2023
- Pronoun: He/him + any neos
For obvious reasons, I would prefer to vote for Gera from the options you mentioned, even regardless of what you said, I don't understand their behavior and they're pretty scummyIn post 3653, Pavowski wrote: Fmpov, obviously, it's in purple/gera/hu tao if Dragon is legit, but shit, that wifom is brutal, like it's already hurting my head and I'm not thinking all that hard about it yet
I'm probably a lot more ready to vote either gera/purple before either hu tao or dragon right now. I tend to agree with you, Dragon has worked too hard for it
Well I mean obviously I'm ready to vote purple
Maybe we yeet Geraint first, maybe that gives us more to go on? Damn...
But that would be a lot less funny, so maybe hu tao is better-
-
Flavor Leaf Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 42893
- Joined: July 17, 2017
- Location: San Francisco
Day 1
Spoiler:
Day 2
Spoiler:
Day 3
Spoiler:
Day 4
Spoiler:CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
-
Flavor Leaf Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 42893
- Joined: July 17, 2017
- Location: San Francisco
Okay, if you look at the Day 4 wagons, there are multiple time periods when there are 3 Green on Hu Tao. There was 4 on Hu Tao at one point, Me, CW, and Gamma Emerald, with Pav first, and Pav unvotes.
My current solve is Hu Tao and Pav.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
-
Flavor Leaf Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 42893
- Joined: July 17, 2017
- Location: San Francisco
#2
Pavowski -2The combination of when pressure came about and how it halted felt like it was directly from Pavowski. The game was on a giant stand still when they unvoted, but when they voted Hu Tao, Hu Tao got to 4 votes. When they voted Gamma/Black, Black got faded. Not a good look. Hu Tao -3Black's flip, in addition to CW slot, makes so many of the wagons on Hu Tao all town, or all town dominated. They also fit as bussing HPE. Day 3 happening significantly faster than Day 2/4 means scum didn't fight HPE too hard, and likely are on HPE. I think this is Hu Tao over Dragon/Purple DragonEater +1There's a lot of things that have to be true for Dragon to be scum, and I just don't believe they're all happening. An Intangible and amount of effort puts them +1. PurpleHeart 02 Votes this game. 2 Hammers. Sitting in back. I think the differences between Even Days vs Odd don't sit right with Geraint -1Sussed out Pavowski/Purple. Have seen some town stuff, but the way they vote is possible to protect a partner, not positive, though. Geraint could be just super off, but I haven't felt comfortable with them all game. Current Solve: Hu Tao & PavowskiCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
-
Flavor Leaf Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 42893
- Joined: July 17, 2017
- Location: San Francisco
It was the Double Shadow Operation, or DSO for short.
Hu Tao played shadowing Dragon. Pav played shadowing Flavor.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
-
Flavor Leaf Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 42893
- Joined: July 17, 2017
- Location: San Francisco
It also explains why Dragon doesnt die in place of me.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
-
DragonEater70 He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 8030
- Joined: February 4, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
- Location: UTC+2
I'm not going to complain about you guys hammering Black while I was asleep. I'm mainly disappointed in myself that I went to sleep without unvoting her, because I think she had some really obvious towntells and if I cared a bit more I'd found them in time.
But honestly I really don't have any WIM left for this game. I was already burnt out the previous day phase.
So I am not going to spend a lot of effort defending myself or Hu Tao today, nor convincing people of my solve. I just want this game over.
Anyhow, judging by the final VC, I am 90% sure the scumteam is exactly Pav/Purple.
VOTE: Pav
Yeah, I woke up, saw a bunch of new pages, started responding to them and suddenly the thread got locked. But as I said, it's wholly my fault for not unvoting.In post 3626, Pavowski wrote: Dragon over here talking like Black isn't already gift wrapped lol-
-
DragonEater70 He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 8030
- Joined: February 4, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
- Location: UTC+2
InterestingIn post 3661, Flavor Leaf wrote: It was the Double Shadow Operation, or DSO for short.
Hu Tao played shadowing Dragon. Pav played shadowing Flavor.
Let's kill Pav and you vig whoever you want out of Hu Tao / Purple. I won't jail you.-
-
Flavor Leaf Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 42893
- Joined: July 17, 2017
- Location: San Francisco
In post 3664, DragonEater70 wrote:
InterestingIn post 3661, Flavor Leaf wrote: It was the Double Shadow Operation, or DSO for short.
Hu Tao played shadowing Dragon. Pav played shadowing Flavor.
Let's kill Pav and you vig whoever you want out of Hu Tao / Purple. I won't jail you.
Imma go Hu Tao for BlackCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
-
Flavor Leaf Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 42893
- Joined: July 17, 2017
- Location: San Francisco
Why does Pav try to go for Purple that last section of the day then? Feel like Purple easily could have gotten.
I’m really not confident in Purple being scum here, nor Pav with anyone else besides Hu Tao at this point.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
-
Flavor Leaf Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 42893
- Joined: July 17, 2017
- Location: San Francisco
Convince me.
This is endgame and when you should be trying MORE to convince that is the case.
If you think that’s the solve, CONVINCE ME. If you are right, we need to come to it together.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
-
Flavor Leaf Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 42893
- Joined: July 17, 2017
- Location: San Francisco
If you are judging by final vote counts,
Hu Tao hands down is the worst by far by VCACHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
-
Flavor Leaf Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 42893
- Joined: July 17, 2017
- Location: San Francisco
VOTE: Hu TaoCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
-
Flavor Leaf Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 42893
- Joined: July 17, 2017
- Location: San Francisco
How do you look at VC 4.10 and say the scum team is Purple/Pav?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
-
Flavor Leaf Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 42893
- Joined: July 17, 2017
- Location: San Francisco
-1 to DragonEater. +1 to Pav.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
-
DragonEater70 He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 8030
- Joined: February 4, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
- Location: UTC+2
I really don't have the energy toIn post 3667, Flavor Leaf wrote: Convince me.
This is endgame and when you should be trying MORE to convince that is the case.
If you think that’s the solve, CONVINCE ME. If you are right, we need to come to it together.
Like honestly, I am exhausted of this game. I am not even sure my read on Hu Tao is correct, though I want it to be.
And like I am going to take a 3 month break from playing mafia (not modding though, I love modding) after this game. In all seriousness.
But I'll try to convince you anyway:
I don't even know how to articulate my thoughts. I have a soul read on Hu Tao and I don't feel she's pocketing me. She pocketed me in her last scum game and it was a different vibe.
I am not sure why you townread HT last day phase, but after scumreading her for most of the phase you suddenly had her as a top TR. I feel that's telling of her alignment because I know how you guys tend to interact as T/T, and it feels the same (see: Mafia Have a Cop, Classic Commercials).-
-
DragonEater70 He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 8030
- Joined: February 4, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
- Location: UTC+2
Easily?In post 3670, Flavor Leaf wrote: How do you look at VC 4.10 and say the scum team is Purple/Pav?-
-
DragonEater70 He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 8030
- Joined: February 4, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
- Location: UTC+2
The entire day yesterday was a lot of TvT which Pav and Purple both coasted through.
Then we finally settled on Black, and Pav said "cool there are actually enough votes for this lim", and voted, and told Purple to hammer in the scum PT.
Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.