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[Thomith]

Votecount 1.2

Votecount 1.2

bugspray (3):

Doctor Drew, Psyche, OutWorldER

Jacob24 (1):

ketchup777

Hu Tao (1):

iamveryhappy

Black (1):

ProjEctRy

ProjEctRy (1):

Black

Psyche (1):

bugspray

Not Voting (5):

Hu Tao, ssbm_Kyouko, Luca Blight, Jacob24, DeltaWave

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to secure an execution.

Day One ends in (expired on 2024-02-03 02:13:32)

Mod Notes

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[ketchup777]

On a more relevant note, the only person yet to post is ssbm_Kyouko.

Do you think this says anything about her alignment?

I thought more likely to be mafia, although I just saw she hasn't actually confirmed her role yet so I guess there's nothing to read into it

[Black]

Sure you can have town points for that

I don't really think not posting right after the game starts is alignment indicative. There's a good chance kyouko just hasn't been on the site yet today

[ketchup777]

Sure you can have town points for that

I don't really think not posting right after the game starts is alignment indicative. There's a good chance kyouko just hasn't been on the site yet today

sure (:
this is my first game so i probs have some bad misconceptions forming in my mind

[iamveryhappy]

damn it I just realized I can't rely on someone to start making ludicrous claims and slipping here
aaaa

[Psyche]

do ludicrous claims usually come from scum in your games

[Jacob24]

drew is town and one of bugspray/psyche is scum, leaning bugspray

mafia is such an easy game

VOTE: bugspray

I have the same thoughts as this, actually. Although I'm leaning more towards psyche being scum, at the moment.

I mostly agree with Luca on this. From the few games I looked at before this, the mafia tend to just lurk in the shadows at the start while town do a good job of killing themselves off. So I was inclined to be less suspicious of whoever responded first (drew/bugspray/psyche). While bugspray could well be bluffing with the question I just thought it was more likely they were town. However, I think it's either psyche or none of them, and that at least two of the mafia are currently lurking in the shadows. I chose a random lurker (jacob) to start off, who seemed perhaps to be a bit annoyed that I had voted him? Maybe because he's mafia? who knows

I saw that you voted me but didn't give it much thought. Everyone tosses out votes at the beginning so it didn't really bother me much.

[iamveryhappy]

do ludicrous claims usually come from scum in your games

yea chat mafia is so bad I won december lb

[Jacob24]

VOTE: bugspray

[DeltaWave]

If you kick out all the multitaskers, then who is going to do multiple night actions, moderator? in the sense that -

I'm trying to make sense of this post. Could this be a scum pt slip? A casual question to the mod like this, cut off mid post.

Why does she think the multitaskers are being kicked out? It's as though she is reading another thread, or am I missing something here?

LOL it's a meme https://youtu.be/a8INEYLFWwc?si=JUlL5q0mCHUheIvr

[OutWorldER]

one of bugspray/psyche is scum, leaning bugspray

how does this kind of either/or read happen

bugspray's comment I do think is scummy and performative: to ask the question genuinely in the first place would require them to believe that the NRG (3 people) + listmod signed off on a game that had a role which is no longer normal/considered simple. It comes off to me as faking a dumbtell and also as a way to say "hey if I was scum I could've just asked this in scum PT".

But it being a genuine brainfart is

not

outside the realm of possibility. I've had dumber moments in my time playing mafia. If this is the case than you, Psyche, could very easily be scum trying to capitalize on a townie blunder, which is how I arrived at the either/or read since at the time I posted that your vote looked a bit more thought out than Drew's; Drew's looked more like a kneejerk reaction and it's why I lean town on him.

[OutWorldER]

drew is town and one of bugspray/psyche is scum, leaning bugspray

mafia is such an easy game

VOTE: bugspray

I have the same thoughts as this, actually. Although I'm leaning more towards psyche being scum, at the moment.

I mostly agree with Luca on this. From the few games I looked at before this, the mafia tend to just lurk in the shadows at the start while town do a good job of killing themselves off. So I was inclined to be less suspicious of whoever responded first (drew/bugspray/psyche). While bugspray could well be bluffing with the question I just thought it was more likely they were town. However, I think it's either psyche or none of them, and that at least two of the mafia are currently lurking in the shadows. I chose a random lurker (jacob) to start off, who seemed perhaps to be a bit annoyed that I had voted him? Maybe because he's mafia? who knows

strong newbscum vibes from this post. Describing someone as a "random lurker" on the 37th post of the game, when a good chunk of players may not have even had the chance to participate yet, is quite strange, and the reads here feel fake, like ketchup is simply trying to emulate the mafia players they were witnessing in games he had read. Describing Jacob as "annoyed" with their vote also seems off-base with Jacob's actual posts before this one.

[ketchup777]

strong newbscum vibes from this post. Describing someone as a "random lurker" on the 37th post of the game, when a good chunk of players may not have even had the chance to participate yet, is quite strange, and the reads here feel fake, like ketchup is simply trying to emulate the mafia players they were witnessing in games he had read. Describing Jacob as "annoyed" with their vote also seems off-base with Jacob's actual posts before this one.

Ok I might have been a bit fast and loose with my terminology I apologise. I meant, a randomly (well with psychic feel ofc ofc) selected person from anyone who hadn't posted yet, knowing that many of them are completely innocent. The post I was targeting was the quote below...

These early reads seem a bit mindless… let’s slow down a bit and think about it.

I’m here by the way.

...two things stand out to me.
One, the use of 'let's' rather than formulating it as a question like 'can we slow down a bit and think about it?' seems a bit controlling, like mafia trying to redirect the flow of the game? (again I reiterate these are just speculations).
Two, the sentence 'I'm here by the way' being thrown on to the end as like a throwaway kinda feels like a mafia member going through the mental checklist of things they need to do (type a message in the thread: check!), especially after I explicitly stated that I'd be on the lookout for non-posters.
Plus just the overall feel of the first sentence gives off annoyed vibes, mindless being quite a negative word.

thanks for putting some guilt on me tho I don't wanna be killed on night 1 xxx

[Jacob24]

strong newbscum vibes from this post. Describing someone as a "random lurker" on the 37th post of the game, when a good chunk of players may not have even had the chance to participate yet, is quite strange, and the reads here feel fake, like ketchup is simply trying to emulate the mafia players they were witnessing in games he had read. Describing Jacob as "annoyed" with their vote also seems off-base with Jacob's actual posts before this one.

Ok I might have been a bit fast and loose with my terminology I apologise. I meant, a randomly (well with psychic feel ofc ofc) selected person from anyone who hadn't posted yet, knowing that many of them are completely innocent. The post I was targeting was the quote below...

These early reads seem a bit mindless… let’s slow down a bit and think about it.

I’m here by the way.

...two things stand out to me.
One, the use of 'let's' rather than formulating it as a question like 'can we slow down a bit and think about it?' seems a bit controlling, like mafia trying to redirect the flow of the game? (again I reiterate these are just speculations).
Two, the sentence 'I'm here by the way' being thrown on to the end as like a throwaway kinda feels like a mafia member going through the mental checklist of things they need to do (type a message in the thread: check!), especially after I explicitly stated that I'd be on the lookout for non-posters.
Plus just the overall feel of the first sentence gives off annoyed vibes, mindless being quite a negative word.

thanks for putting some guilt on me tho I don't wanna be killed on night 1 xxx

It was intended to be somewhat controlling, since I wanted to try and get things under control. I am a very logic-based person so I wanted to really flesh out the arguments and such.

I think the questions you're asking are fine, but you're digging in a bit much. For right now, I'm with Luca in voting for bugspray but I may acknowledge some other notions as to the scum identity.

[iamveryhappy]

get a pfp

[Jacob24]

better?

[Psyche]

yes!

[OutWorldER]

These early reads seem a bit mindless… let’s slow down a bit and think about it.

I’m here by the way.

strong newbscum vibes from this post. Describing someone as a "random lurker" on the 37th post of the game, when a good chunk of players may not have even had the chance to participate yet, is quite strange, and the reads here feel fake, like ketchup is simply trying to emulate the mafia players they were witnessing in games he had read. Describing Jacob as "annoyed" with their vote also seems off-base with Jacob's actual posts before this one.

Ok I might have been a bit fast and loose with my terminology I apologise. I meant, a randomly (well with psychic feel ofc ofc) selected person from anyone who hadn't posted yet, knowing that many of them are completely innocent. The post I was targeting was the quote below...

These early reads seem a bit mindless… let’s slow down a bit and think about it.

I’m here by the way.

...two things stand out to me.
One, the use of 'let's' rather than formulating it as a question like 'can we slow down a bit and think about it?' seems a bit controlling, like mafia trying to redirect the flow of the game? (again I reiterate these are just speculations).
Two, the sentence 'I'm here by the way' being thrown on to the end as like a throwaway kinda feels like a mafia member going through the mental checklist of things they need to do (type a message in the thread: check!), especially after I explicitly stated that I'd be on the lookout for non-posters.
Plus just the overall feel of the first sentence gives off annoyed vibes, mindless being quite a negative word.

thanks for putting some guilt on me tho I don't wanna be killed on night 1 xxx

It was intended to be somewhat controlling, since I wanted to try and get things under control. I am a very logic-based person so I wanted to really flesh out the arguments and such.

I think the questions you're asking are fine, but you're digging in a bit much. For right now, I'm with Luca in voting for bugspray but I may acknowledge some other notions as to the scum identity.

yeah Jacob's probably town

[bugspray]

one of bugspray/psyche is scum, leaning bugspray

how does this kind of either/or read happen

bugspray's comment I do think is scummy and performative: to ask the question genuinely in the first place would require them to believe that the NRG (3 people) + listmod signed off on a game that had a role which is no longer normal/considered simple. It comes off to me as faking a dumbtell and also as a way to say "hey if I was scum I could've just asked this in scum PT".

But it being a genuine brainfart is

not

outside the realm of possibility. I've had dumber moments in my time playing mafia. If this is the case than you, Psyche, could very easily be scum trying to capitalize on a townie blunder, which is how I arrived at the either/or read since at the time I posted that your vote looked a bit more thought out than Drew's; Drew's looked more like a kneejerk reaction and it's why I lean town on him.

you are seriously misrepping this. people make mistakes very frequently. there is so mental gymnastics to ignore occam's razor. i had the concern the moment i read the game thread after checking my role pm and decided to immediately ask it publicly

[OutWorldER]

strong newbscum vibes from this post. Describing someone as a "random lurker" on the 37th post of the game, when a good chunk of players may not have even had the chance to participate yet, is quite strange, and the reads here feel fake, like ketchup is simply trying to emulate the mafia players they were witnessing in games he had read. Describing Jacob as "annoyed" with their vote also seems off-base with Jacob's actual posts before this one.

Ok I might have been a bit fast and loose with my terminology I apologise. I meant, a randomly (well with psychic feel ofc ofc) selected person from anyone who hadn't posted yet, knowing that many of them are completely innocent. The post I was targeting was the quote below...

These early reads seem a bit mindless… let’s slow down a bit and think about it.

I’m here by the way.

...two things stand out to me.
One, the use of 'let's' rather than formulating it as a question like 'can we slow down a bit and think about it?' seems a bit controlling, like mafia trying to redirect the flow of the game? (again I reiterate these are just speculations).
Two, the sentence 'I'm here by the way' being thrown on to the end as like a throwaway kinda feels like a mafia member going through the mental checklist of things they need to do (type a message in the thread: check!), especially after I explicitly stated that I'd be on the lookout for non-posters.
Plus just the overall feel of the first sentence gives off annoyed vibes, mindless being quite a negative word.

thanks for putting some guilt on me tho I don't wanna be killed on night 1 xxx

"trying to redirect the flow of the game" to what end? I need you to answer that because I can only think of one scenario that would be the case, and in that scenario it would mean your stated townlean on bugspray makes no sense.

"thanks for putting some guilt on me tho I don't wanna be killed on night 1 xxx" this feels incredibly fake

[bugspray]

VOTE: bugspray

i'm in yeet-1

[iamveryhappy]

VOTE: bugspray

i'm in yeet-1

it's 7 to hammer
as far as i can see it's 4 now

[OutWorldER]

one of bugspray/psyche is scum, leaning bugspray

how does this kind of either/or read happen

bugspray's comment I do think is scummy and performative: to ask the question genuinely in the first place would require them to believe that the NRG (3 people) + listmod signed off on a game that had a role which is no longer normal/considered simple. It comes off to me as faking a dumbtell and also as a way to say "hey if I was scum I could've just asked this in scum PT".

But it being a genuine brainfart is

not

outside the realm of possibility. I've had dumber moments in my time playing mafia. If this is the case than you, Psyche, could very easily be scum trying to capitalize on a townie blunder, which is how I arrived at the either/or read since at the time I posted that your vote looked a bit more thought out than Drew's; Drew's looked more like a kneejerk reaction and it's why I lean town on him.

you are seriously misrepping this. people make mistakes very frequently. there is so mental gymnastics to ignore occam's razor. i had the concern the moment i read the game thread after checking my role pm and decided to immediately ask it publicly

how I am misrepping it when I outright acknowledge the possibility of it being a mistake and mentioned that Psyche might be scum because of it?

[ketchup777]

It was intended to be somewhat controlling, since I wanted to try and get things under control. I am a very logic-based person so I wanted to really flesh out the arguments and such.

I think the questions you're asking are fine, but you're digging in a bit much. For right now, I'm with Luca in voting for bugspray but I may acknowledge some other notions as to the scum identity.

sure! sorry if it seemed like I was tunneling on you. I'll lay off for a bit. Not going to jump on the bugswagon because I'm unconvinced bugs is mafia. let's not yeet our good friends now guys.

UNVOTE:

[ketchup777]

oop am i supposed to put a player name after the unvote?
UNVOTE: Jacob24