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[gob]

smh rude ass :sideeyeemoji:

Good morning gob
Can you give us a wonderful insight today?

yea i dont think we go ninja anymore

[Oatsmaster]

smh rude ass :sideeyeemoji:

Good morning gob
Can you give us a wonderful insight today?

yea i dont think we go ninja anymore

Alright who do you think we should go? Please don’t say darth punk

[Naerys]

i played with roden as my scum buddy and he did play like "sorry i need to catch up" and then disappeared
tbf it might just be his irl stuff

[Grackaroni]

I feel like a number of people (and people pretty familiar with Vivax?) have said various things along the lines of Vivax seeming different this game or that he seems scummy or that his reads don't make sense - and I'm wondering why no one actually seems to want to vote him

He's been yeeted as town on day 1 a few times in recent games and I think people are reluctant to do it again.

[Dannflor]

Im still really stuck on dann's very very quick reversal from ninja to dp so hed be the 3rd name I throw in there

I don't really know why you are stuck on this or exactly what you think I gain as scum unless I'm partnered with exactly Ninja.

The fact is that the very very quick reversals even after writing huge cases is something I can point to in any of my games and I'm happy to link them to you if that's a huge sticking point. I'm self meta casing here, but I would probably wager that type of reversal and read fluidity happens way more often in my town games than in my scum games.

It's largely a factor of my playstyle and the fact that I'm a pretty indecisive person at heart and I want to be as accurate as possible

[Dannflor]

Why does he care about who Vivax scumreads? Or like "if one of these three NEEDS to be mafia THEN it's this guy". Seems a bit out of place how to talk to your scumread.

I am not exceptionally confident on my Vivax scum read

I think it's worth trying to view the game in case Vivax is town, even hypothetically, because in that case I think it is more likely his reads are accurate

[Oatsmaster]

You don’t really know why it’s scummy to not be invested in the most effort you’ve put into the game so far?

[Vivax]

I feel like a number of people (and people pretty familiar with Vivax?) have said various things along the lines of Vivax seeming different this game or that he seems scummy or that his reads don't make sense - and I'm wondering why no one actually seems to want to vote him

He's been yeeted as town on day 1 a few times in recent games and I think people are reluctant to do it again.

If you really think I'm mafia you can yeet me again. I just think it's odd someone wouldn't update the tells they use for me when being proven wrong several times. It's like some want to keep me chained to my meta from years ago and I get yeeted if I don't comply with how they think I should play this game.

[Dannflor]

why should people town read you this game, vivax

[Dannflor]

You don’t really know why it’s scummy to not be invested in the most effort you’ve put into the game so far?

okay that's not really an engagement with anything i said

[Grackaroni]

That's absolutely very fucking stupid, both of you!!!

Legitimately will lose interest if we don’t flip someone within the next 24 hours

Then stop playing. You joined a game with a 10 days D1.
It's basically impossible to not lynch mafia in 10 days, dont cut the day into 1/3 of it just because youre bored. Play the game.

I'm liking the super long deadline. Gives you more freedom to miss some time and then jump back in. I Would not be upset if we use the whole 10 days.

[Dannflor]

I'm not deviating from my scumreads fyi.
Can't make me. If you want you can yeet someone. I see no point in writing more right now until I am proven wrong. Everything else feels like wasted energy.

OoO is still basing his read on RVS at page 42 and Oats complains that I'm voting my scumread and not Roden and framed it as if that's a safe vote when it's just what I should be doing. I'm not going to fold to peer pressure here.

It's Oats, Ninja and OoO

this feels too static

[Oatsmaster]

You don’t really know why it’s scummy to not be invested in the most effort you’ve put into the game so far?

okay that's not really an engagement with anything i said

It’s a question

[Dannflor]

More importantly, though, is Dann making up a case against me that isn't real?

I'm not sure where this is coming from given I've said repeatedly that I'm town reading you.

My worry about you sign posting was sparked by you saying you have "buyer's remorse putting Dannflor into firm town territory in my post." Which like, tells me that you actually have doubts about me or maybe are scum reading me more than you said in your post but you feel like because you slotted me as a town read in your post you can't express doubts about me or start scum reading me without like creating a whole new reads list or something.

it felt like you felt tied down to your reads list

[Vivax]

I am more amicable and diplomatic as mafia. I rarely take risks. I think if I had to pick my mafia version for this game it would be much more similar to how Luca Blight plays.
Maybe I should scumread him after all.

[Dannflor]

You don’t really know why it’s scummy to not be invested in the most effort you’ve put into the game so far?

okay that's not really an engagement with anything i said

It’s a question

I see why someone would think it scummy on a surface level but I don't know why you're hung up on it if you think about it for more than a minute

[Oatsmaster]

You don’t really know why it’s scummy to not be invested in the most effort you’ve put into the game so far?

okay that's not really an engagement with anything i said

It’s a question

I see why someone would think it scummy on a surface level but I don't know why you're hung up on it if you think about it for more than a minute

So explain to me how it’s only townie to do what you did

[Dannflor]

Alright who do you think we should go? Please don’t say darth punk

is there a reason to strongly town read DP

or do you just think there are far better lim candidates

[Oatsmaster]

I am more amicable and diplomatic as mafia. I rarely take risks. I think if I had to pick my mafia version for this game it would be much more similar to how Luca Blight plays.
Maybe I should scumread him after all.

How exactly is just nonchalantly pushing people who will never get yeeted today or possibly ever taking risks

[Vivax]

I am more amicable and diplomatic as mafia. I rarely take risks. I think if I had to pick my mafia version for this game it would be much more similar to how Luca Blight plays.
Maybe I should scumread him after all.

If I went by this metric which is 'avoids confrontation' I'd end up at a pool of Luca/Dunn/Hu Tao/Naerys judging by the presence of interactions alone / playing it safe.

It's just not the metric I decided to apply in this game.

[Dannflor]

So explain to me how it’s only townie to do what you did

I think that type of read fluidity is a lot harder (at least for me) to replicate as scum and it largely stems from wanting to be right and not really caring how I look

but I already said this so we probably just won't agree

[Oatsmaster]

Alright who do you think we should go? Please don’t say darth punk

is there a reason to strongly town read DP

or do you just think there are far better lim candidates

Bit of column A, bit of column B, also he won’t be a problem later on, if he’s still not nk by day 4 we just yeet him then ez

[Dannflor]

I am more amicable and diplomatic as mafia. I rarely take risks. I think if I had to pick my mafia version for this game it would be much more similar to how Luca Blight plays.
Maybe I should scumread him after all.

okay so i read this and think about how you went "let's fight Dann"

and then immediately backed off

[Oatsmaster]

So explain to me how it’s only townie to do what you did

I think that type of read fluidity is a lot harder (at least for me) to replicate as scum and it largely stems from wanting to be right and not really caring how I look

but I already said this so we probably just won't agree

So if I think about it for more than a minute I can mindread you and understand exactly how you see the game versus known trends across many many games and many many people. I see.

When you saying “wanting to be right” what does that mean exactly? Like you only want to be on flips that are correct? ie not on town misyeets, only on scum yeets? Or do you mean something else

[Vivax]

I am more amicable and diplomatic as mafia. I rarely take risks. I think if I had to pick my mafia version for this game it would be much more similar to how Luca Blight plays.
Maybe I should scumread him after all.

okay so i read this and think about how you went "let's fight Dann"

and then immediately backed off

I think you are more concerned with appearing dominant/superior in the thread rather than solving it.
That bugs me. And I am erratic like that as times.