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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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If i was scum why would I not just say I blocked gypyx n1. That would be a confirmed fake claim I wouldn't have to do any guesses.-
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I am exploring your refusal to reveal your block, yes. Please see 2885In post 2923, Hu Tao wrote:
So you're implying I'm scum and not actually a jail keeper?In post 2920, ketchup777 wrote:
How would anyone know I'm a VT? how can you tell the difference between a VT and a power role, assuming you haven't found any crumbs? If the team is Hu Tao / OutWorld / Gypyx,In post 2915, Gypyx wrote:
she could always simply claim to have done it on 1 of her scumbuddies or on a pretty inconspicuous looking VT, for instance i doubt anyone would really have doubted you were an actual VT and you were a realistic protection targetIn post 2907, ketchup777 wrote: I think mafia!Hu Tao had to gamble between downplaying not revealing her block and risking running into an unclaimed PR, and she would deem the former more likely to lead to successboth Hu Tao and Outworld would be exposed if I were a closeted power role.That seems too great a risk to take, even if they had lots of suspicion coming into this day, Hu Tao had a lot more than OutWorld-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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And your only scenario when I'm scum is if I'm scum with gypyx. Soooo..-
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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1. You certainely didn't go against outworld when he claimed to have a VT result on you, and while you *could* have kept it holstered i think you would've gotten pretty excited about itIn post 2920, ketchup777 wrote:
How would anyone know I'm a VT? how can you tell the difference between a VT and a power role, assuming you haven't found any crumbs? If the team is Hu Tao / OutWorld / Gypyx,In post 2915, Gypyx wrote:
she could always simply claim to have done it on 1 of her scumbuddies or on a pretty inconspicuous looking VT, for instance i doubt anyone would really have doubted you were an actual VT and you were a realistic protection targetIn post 2907, ketchup777 wrote: I think mafia!Hu Tao had to gamble between downplaying not revealing her block and risking running into an unclaimed PR, and she would deem the former more likely to lead to successboth Hu Tao and Outworld would be exposed if I were a closeted power role.That seems too great a risk to take, even if they had lots of suspicion coming into this day, Hu Tao had a lot more than OutWorld
2. Outworld is probably a mafia Neapolitan who's trueclaimingWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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ketchup777 he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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anyway, mafia!Hu Tao doesn't want to create a larger web of lies than necessary. If she claims a block, she has to justify her reasons, then justify her justifications, then...In post 2915, Gypyx wrote:
she could always simply claim to have done it on 1 of her scumbuddies or on a pretty inconspicuous looking VT, for instance i doubt anyone would really have doubted you were an actual VT and you were a realistic protection targetIn post 2907, ketchup777 wrote: I think mafia!Hu Tao had to gamble between downplaying not revealing her block and risking running into an unclaimed PR, and she would deem the former more likely to lead to success-
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it would certainely disprove the scumteam being me / outworld / black but that's trial by fire hereWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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Also if I was scum OWER we could have just said that he got blocked n1. Either way I had a safe choice for jk.-
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ketchup777 he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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thanks ly too (:In post 2916, Gypyx wrote:
ketchup just need you to know that you're comedy gold and i actually love youIn post 2905, ketchup777 wrote:I am deliberately not going to open this post for now, I'm going to try to get my own thoughts and if blah then blah thoughts down that I haven't done yet. Excited to read all your thoughts though, this should be really useful. But I want to ignore bias
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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No. Because as scum I'd have safe blocks available. That logic doesn't apply at all.In post 2929, ketchup777 wrote:
anyway, mafia!Hu Tao doesn't want to create a larger web of lies than necessary. If she claims a block, she has to justify her reasons, then justify her justifications, then...In post 2915, Gypyx wrote:
she could always simply claim to have done it on 1 of her scumbuddies or on a pretty inconspicuous looking VT, for instance i doubt anyone would really have doubted you were an actual VT and you were a realistic protection targetIn post 2907, ketchup777 wrote: I think mafia!Hu Tao had to gamble between downplaying not revealing her block and risking running into an unclaimed PR, and she would deem the former more likely to lead to success-
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Now you're just in confirmation bias territory hereIn post 2929, ketchup777 wrote:
anyway, mafia!Hu Tao doesn't want to create a larger web of lies than necessary. If she claims a block, she has to justify her reasons, then justify her justifications, then...In post 2915, Gypyx wrote:
she could always simply claim to have done it on 1 of her scumbuddies or on a pretty inconspicuous looking VT, for instance i doubt anyone would really have doubted you were an actual VT and you were a realistic protection targetIn post 2907, ketchup777 wrote: I think mafia!Hu Tao had to gamble between downplaying not revealing her block and risking running into an unclaimed PR, and she would deem the former more likely to lead to success
what's really bringing hu tao under scrutiny is her refusal to claim to a slot i STRONGLY think she would've noticed something wrong was going on with if she was scum
please try to reevaluateWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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ketchup777 he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Two things on that:In post 2931, Hu Tao wrote: Also if I was scum OWER we could have just said that he got blocked n1. Either way I had a safe choice for jk.
1. Could OWER differentiate between being blocked and getting no result 'cos dead person.
2. No, because why would you have gone for OWER? come on, let's stop these mind games. as town you shouldn't fear me backing you into the truth, as scum you should fear me narrowing your options.
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HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
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This makes 0 sense. And as I said it makes no difference so no need to claim it.In post 2936, ketchup777 wrote:
Two things on that:In post 2931, Hu Tao wrote: Also if I was scum OWER we could have just said that he got blocked n1. Either way I had a safe choice for jk.
1. Could OWER differentiate between being blocked and getting no result 'cos dead person.
2. No, because why would you have gone for OWER? come on, let's stop these mind games. as town you shouldn't fear me backing you into the truth, as scum you should fear me narrowing your options.
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Unfortunate. ):In post 2918, JacksonVirgo wrote:
He's gonna be blown away by my perfect analysis skills hereIn post 2916, Gypyx wrote:
ketchup just need you to know that you're comedy gold and i actually love youIn post 2905, ketchup777 wrote:I am deliberately not going to open this post for now, I'm going to try to get my own thoughts and if blah then blah thoughts down that I haven't done yet. Excited to read all your thoughts though, this should be really useful. But I want to ignore bias
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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Ketchup. You realize the only way I'm scum is with ower and gypyx. So if I was scum with one of them. Why couldn't I talk to them in the mafia pt and say I'm going to claim a jk on them n1?-
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I think it's going to make a difference to me. Please. I want to know, even if it's past the best time to claim it.In post 2938, Hu Tao wrote:
This makes 0 sense. And as I said it makes no difference so no need to claim it.In post 2936, ketchup777 wrote:
Two things on that:In post 2931, Hu Tao wrote: Also if I was scum OWER we could have just said that he got blocked n1. Either way I had a safe choice for jk.
1. Could OWER differentiate between being blocked and getting no result 'cos dead person.
2. No, because why would you have gone for OWER? come on, let's stop these mind games. as town you shouldn't fear me backing you into the truth, as scum you should fear me narrowing your options.
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Hu i think we're past the point where logic is gonna make ketchup back down, you probably don't gain anything from holding off anywaysWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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In post 2940, Hu Tao wrote:Ketchup. You realize the only way I'm scum is with ower and gypyx.So if I was scum with one of them. Why couldn't I talk to them in the mafia pt and say I'm going to claim a jk on them n1?ermm I suspect that but keep delaying my all possible scumteams analysis, so not sure on that yet
Being coordinated doesn't magically mean your jailkeep will make sense. If you are teamed with Outworld/Gypyx, it seems unlikely either of these would be a good jailkeep target, they were both very much middle ground-
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1. yesIn post 2936, ketchup777 wrote:
Two things on that:In post 2931, Hu Tao wrote: Also if I was scum OWER we could have just said that he got blocked n1. Either way I had a safe choice for jk.
1. Could OWER differentiate between being blocked and getting no result 'cos dead person.
2. No, because why would you have gone for OWER? come on, let's stop these mind games. as town you shouldn't fear me backing you into the truth, as scum you should fear me narrowing your options.
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2. Because ower was slightly scummy but still is an extremely good candidate for performing the nightkill?White Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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you tell her mummy scummyIn post 2942, Gypyx wrote: Hu i think we're past the point where logic is gonna make ketchup back down, you probably don't gain anything from holding off anyways-
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In post 2945, ketchup777 wrote:
you tell her mummy scummyIn post 2942, Gypyx wrote: Hu i think we're past the point where logic is gonna make ketchup back down, you probably don't gain anything from holding off anyways-
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i'm getting gender affirmation from this and i don't like itIn post 2945, ketchup777 wrote:
you tell her mummy scummyIn post 2942, Gypyx wrote: Hu i think we're past the point where logic is gonna make ketchup back down, you probably don't gain anything from holding off anywaysWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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ketchup777 he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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2. look, I know I'm new to the meta. It just seems mafia!hu tao wouldn't want to restrict her options and create more lies than necessaryIn post 2944, Gypyx wrote:
1. yesIn post 2936, ketchup777 wrote:
Two things on that:In post 2931, Hu Tao wrote: Also if I was scum OWER we could have just said that he got blocked n1. Either way I had a safe choice for jk.
1. Could OWER differentiate between being blocked and getting no result 'cos dead person.
2. No, because why would you have gone for OWER? come on, let's stop these mind games. as town you shouldn't fear me backing you into the truth, as scum you should fear me narrowing your options.
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2. Because ower was slightly scummy but still is an extremely good candidate for performing the nightkill?-
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pronouns: she/herIn post 2947, Gypyx wrote:
i'm getting gender affirmation from this and i don't like itIn post 2945, ketchup777 wrote:
you tell her mummy scummyIn post 2942, Gypyx wrote: Hu i think we're past the point where logic is gonna make ketchup back down, you probably don't gain anything from holding off anyways
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