If it's wrong, then we were probably always doomed to lose anyway. We need to shut this noise off to be able to process the game properly on the following days, in my opinion. gypyx is causing way too many distractions.
idk sounds like Hu Tao / Ketchup managed to figure me out just well
have you considered that you're maybe bad at the game
I respect your input Ketchup and I will do my best to hear you out like I have been, and ultimately I understand the frustration but I do believe this does need to happen
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 3009, ketchup777 wrote:
Ok guys, with pen, paper, 2 biscuits, sultanas and a banana milkshake, I have deduced that the mafia team MUST be one of the following teams.
I found all possible 7C3=35 combinations (yes, I am town, sorry, not doing 8C3 and wasting my time)
I first eliminated any where neither Gypyx or Psyche were present (got rid of 10 potential teams)
I then eliminated any which had Luca but not Jackson or Jackson but not Luca (a further 14 teams)
I then also removed Hu Tao / Psyche / OutWorld team as, with the logic Hu Tao brought me in post 2369, they have had ample time and opportunity to hammer Gypyx here. Expanding on that, his cannot be a sick scumteam not hammering because they fear a jailkeep, because Hu Tao is our alleged jailkeeper and it seems we would have no way to stop them winning.
These are the ten teams that are left, in listing order not of any indication of which I think is the most likely:
Hu Tao / Gypyx / Psyche
Hu Tao / Gypyx / Black
Hu Tao / Gypyx / Outworld
Hu Tao / Psyche / Black
Gypyx / Luca / Jackson
Gypyx / Psyche / Black
Gypyx / Psyche / Outworld
Gypyx / Black / Outworld
Luca / Jackson / Psyche
Psyche / Black / Outworld
Due to mod wifom, I think if Outworld is truthful with his macho claim as a townie, Hu Tao must also be town. This means the list can be reduced to:
Hu Tao / Gypyx / Outworld
Gypyx / Luca / Jackson
Gypyx / Psyche / Black
Gypyx / Psyche / Outworld
Gypyx / Black / Outworld
Luca / Jackson / Psyche
Psyche / Black / Outworld
7 possible case, guys. But I'm not 100% sure if I got the last step of logic right, so please comment. Come on, we can nail them.
In post 3096, JacksonVirgo wrote:
You've made assumptions that I'm not comfortable deciding the game based on
Which assumptions?
I’m assuming you two are masons, but that shouldn’t be a problem for you.
I’m assuming that those two setups are too overpowered, yes, if you think I’m wrong please tell me.
The only assumption that might be eh for you is me being townie. Please, I need you to believe me. I’m VT.
Actually, you don’t even need to think I’m town at this stage. If I’m scum, OutWorld is also scum for his VT neapolitan reading of me. Then it has to be on of Gypyx/Psyche because of the red check, so the only possible scum teams with me in are:
The second one is not even possible, because we could have hammered Gypyx when she was at E-2. So the only 'possible' scum team with me in is specifically
Ketchup / OutWorld / Gypyx. Outworks and Gypyx have to town read me, then. But you don’t! If I’m scum, Outworld is still scum. Come to the light! please (:
Insanely prolonged+heated+unpleasant Jackson+Gypyx argument
all 3 on Dann's wagon (this is the only possible case where all 3 were on the wagon)
Jackson immediately coming in to slate Gypyx
Only 1 on Titus' wagon
I think this is the least likely one right now
Indeed, if the team is 6 (Luca / Jackson / Psyche), this is the only other case of 1 being on Titus' wagon, and Jackson had ample opportunity to hammer, so I look upon the masonry as quite likely now
The split is approximately { ketchup, hu tao, gypyx } + { black, psyche, mel, luca } and then outworld as like a middleman that has seeded themselves into both sides.
Ok so OWER just needs to decide who he thinks is scum. He can either hammer Gypyx or he can vote Psyche and I'll hammer
Resolving the 1v1 has to be the play. Unless the analysis on OWER is like some Sherlock Holmes shit
Black, everyone, please read the analysis! It has to be OutWorld, it has to be!
Jackson, you say you worry for future days if the masonry is attacked, well, if there’s 6 of us left and it’s 3 for an elim you have {black,alive mason, psyche} to vote Gypyx if need be. If it’s 4, I could well vote her at some point. But seriously:
It seems to be >90% OWER is scum
1v1 is like 60% chance on each
Don’t trust your gut trust the logic
Outworld analysis:
In 3009 I narrowed the scumteam down to 7 cases. I later realised in 3108 from outside POV not knowing I’m town the only possible other scumteam is Ketchup / OutWorld / Gypyx, which still has Outworld in. 3029 started some flawed analysis in that I made 2 unreasonable assumptions, but then it got better. 3040 methinking there were 3 scum on Titus’ wagon suggests Luca and Jackson are masons
3065 setup, all we need to think about is case 3, having reasonably assumed now that Jackson and Luca are masons. See 3109
COME ON PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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If it's wrong, then we were probably always doomed to lose anyway. We need to shut this noise off to be able to process the game properly on the following days, in my opinion. gypyx is causing way too many distractions.
Luca, I promise the game is not lost by voting out the only possible scum here. PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE
