Kemusan - Game Over

[LavarManos]

Also bell i question how u went from reading rce as scum to nulltown in the span of 3 minutes
u sure u weren't just looking for reasons to townread rce or did u rlly see something good

[Bell]

Look man, my scum game isn’t that good.
Give me a break. I’m trying my best here.

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Also bell i question how u went from reading rce as scum to nulltown in the span of 3 minutes
u sure u weren't just looking for reasons to townread rce or did u rlly see something good

Speaking of RCE, what's your take on him?

[Firebringer]

i can't trust ydrasse she is scum

bell ur up, what is ur read on cakez

Who?

Read on Sircakez

[Spiffeh]

Despite my paranoia reads list (which you don't get to see atm), I like some recent Skitter posts.

Can you tell me what you like about skitter?

[Bell]

I iso’d them and realized I had missed some content.
I have a pace tracker, if someone doesn’t meet a certain pace for developing reads or producing something, I jump on them.

[Bell]

i can't trust ydrasse she is scum

bell ur up, what is ur read on cakez

I have no idea.
Genuinely.
Perhaps the fact they haven’t said anything completely insane yet means they’re scum.
Who?

Read on Sircakez

[Bell]

i can't trust ydrasse she is scum

bell ur up, what is ur read on cakez

Who?

Read on Sircakez

I have no idea.
Genuinely.
Perhaps the fact they haven’t said anything completely insane yet means they’re scum.

Ewbop.

[fferyllt]

I even asked you if you need more transparency from me IN THIS PHASE and you didn't say yes or no unless I missed it.

no

There ARE reads in my iso.

i am not arguing that

If there's something specific you want to know more about then ask me.

every time i have you answered a different question

so shrug

i guess i don't need to keep doing this

Then my reading comprehension sucks. Which is possible.

If you change your mind, go ahead and ask.

[LavarManos]

Also bell i question how u went from reading rce as scum to nulltown in the span of 3 minutes
u sure u weren't just looking for reasons to townread rce or did u rlly see something good

Speaking of RCE, what's your take on him?

I don't townread his posts individually, but I do acknowledge the takes that he might be more inclined to position himself as scum
idk how valid that is given there are still three ladies left and that we seem to be in a point where pairings have tapered off

[fferyllt]

My one very small reservation here is that HST usually holds off stating a read on me for a while is because he starts from a place of suspicion, and watches my body of work until he's sure. I feel extremely obvious town to players who know me well, so it's not totally outside the envelope of his townplay around me specifically. It's one footnote on a townread.

Did you not think of it as a drastic change?

Change, but not entirely drastic after that one Kate game. In that game you were sitting on a townread for a while before you accidentally(?) spilled the beans. You slipped (I think) about the read here more quickly but it was kinda subtle.

[LavarManos]

I iso’d them and realized I had missed some content.

anything in particular you liked b/c im not seeing anything

[fferyllt]

Despite my paranoia reads list (which you don't get to see atm), I like some recent Skitter posts.

Can you tell me what you like about skitter?

Some convergence in reads based on the same posts. With skitter's scumgame, along with that immediate move to the dumpster fire when she caught up, that's not enough to move the needle far but it did move the needle.

I should probably quote posts in this post but I'm hungry. I'll come back to it in a few if you need them.

[Bell]

1189: but it’s minor. I guess it feels slightly unguarded. I think it’s just me projecting due to Similar mindset. They seem to be vaguely acknowledging their vulnerability in their post. But posting about it anyway.

[Bell]

They’re not null-town though.
They’re just barely above water.

[Bell]

I will not be advocating for one of the remaining gentlemen to be saved in particular.

[LavarManos]

@Bell that caught my eye too, but most players should be able to make that post as scum so ig agree to disagree

[Bell]

Oh, I don’t think we disagree.

[HolySpiritTurtle]

My one very small reservation here is that HST usually holds off stating a read on me for a while is because he starts from a place of suspicion, and watches my body of work until he's sure. I feel extremely obvious town to players who know me well, so it's not totally outside the envelope of his townplay around me specifically. It's one footnote on a townread.

Did you not think of it as a drastic change?

Change, but not entirely drastic after that one Kate game. In that game you were sitting on a townread for a while before you accidentally(?) spilled the beans. You slipped (I think) about the read here more quickly but it was kinda subtle.

I don't remember which game it was, but usually the only thing I accidentally slip is alt slip.

[fferyllt]

Kinda meh but i feel like:
* it's a very popular sr
* if he were actually scum he'd exhibit more urgency in trying to get into a pairing (this goes for all of the unpaired gents, honestly)

Not really convinced he's scum rn

I dub this a hipster read.

This is one of the reasons why i think scum is already paired, basically
Nobody feels worried abt not getting in

To some extent that depends on the distribution of scum between genders. Every Lady scum means another town Gent. Of the early pairers, one or two scum gents max is where I'm currently at.

[fferyllt]

My one very small reservation here is that HST usually holds off stating a read on me for a while is because he starts from a place of suspicion, and watches my body of work until he's sure. I feel extremely obvious town to players who know me well, so it's not totally outside the envelope of his townplay around me specifically. It's one footnote on a townread.

Did you not think of it as a drastic change?

Change, but not entirely drastic after that one Kate game. In that game you were sitting on a townread for a while before you accidentally(?) spilled the beans. You slipped (I think) about the read here more quickly but it was kinda subtle.

I don't remember which game it was, but usually the only thing I accidentally slip is alt slip.

Being more specific would definitely out your main. I think it was the last game we played together.

[fireisredsir]

how do u feel about enchant this game?

ok i had in my brain that there were things that i felt were towny from enchant but i reread iso and there's basically nothing actually

807 and 808 are like a tiny bit towny coming from enchant imo but thats like it

so idk actually i think id most prefer to leave enchant out right now. they were way townier in new years dance (and did actually end up getting paired at the end): viewtopic.php?t=90239&user_select%5B%5D=35064

I get the feel that ur backtracking from an enchant townread that you never rlly declared in the first place

And ur post sorta feels all over the place with u first saying there's basically nothing towny from enchant, then quoting two minimally AI posts as towny, and then finally saying that you prefer enchant to actually be the one left out

this feels very weirdly uncharitable

i have expressed that there were things i found towny from enchant (1200, 1353), but even if i hadn't, why is it scummy to show a progression from a read that hadn't been previously stated?

and "all over the place" is a nothing statement when it's like very clear that i am pointing out that the only things i see as towny from enchant add up to very little and so therefore there's no reason to townread them. the three things you are framing as different are all along the same line of thought

[fireisredsir]

i find that post shockingly bad actually. feels very much like forcing a read

[Spiffeh]

how do u feel about enchant this game?

ok i had in my brain that there were things that i felt were towny from enchant but i reread iso and there's basically nothing actually

807 and 808 are like a tiny bit towny coming from enchant imo but thats like it

so idk actually i think id most prefer to leave enchant out right now. they were way townier in new years dance (and did actually end up getting paired at the end): viewtopic.php?t=90239&user_select%5B%5D=35064

I get the feel that ur backtracking from an enchant townread that you never rlly declared in the first place

And ur post sorta feels all over the place with u first saying there's basically nothing towny from enchant, then quoting two minimally AI posts as towny, and then finally saying that you prefer enchant to actually be the one left out

this feels very weirdly uncharitable

i have expressed that there were things i found towny from enchant (1200, 1353), but even if i hadn't, why is it scummy to show a progression from a read that hadn't been previously stated?

and "all over the place" is a nothing statement when it's like very clear that i am pointing out that the only things i see as towny from enchant add up to very little and so therefore there's no reason to townread them. the three things you are framing as different are all along the same line of thought

I agree with this

[fferyllt]

Despite my paranoia reads list (which you don't get to see atm), I like some recent Skitter posts.

Can you tell me what you like about skitter?

Some convergence in reads based on the same posts. With skitter's scumgame, along with that immediate move to the dumpster fire when she caught up, that's not enough to move the needle far but it did move the needle.

I should probably quote posts in this post but I'm hungry. I'll come back to it in a few if you need them.

Here are some.

Kinda bummed that Cabd keeps touting this hero-solve before intermission but has yet to really weigh in on who should be left behind this phase when I'd think that would something he'd want some input in and would lay a good foundation for said hero-solve?

Unless I missed a post from him or something

Do u think cabd should be townreading you and gypyx so strongly?

For me the spiffeh thing has less to do with how i think he'd behave as scum, and more to do with some of his recent posting, namely:

- kinda don't understand his gypyx trajectory, or how he became that confident in town-her
- cabd declaring them a high confidence tvt pair made me go ... huh?
- ffery townread almost feels white-knight-y
-

I kinda think that scum is in many of the pairs already

The only pairing i'm somewhat confident is tvt is hst/bell, although i will say i am maybe coming around on my fire sr