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[Grackaroni]

There's a few things leading me this way. I still think Oats' reaction to Hu-Tao's claim was the most likely to be fake.

That's great, but like, why would we yeet anyone other than whoever Hu Tao mentions today?

Obviously we need to know if they are lying, and if they are, we yeet Hu Tao next, which I'm sure Hu Tao is well aware of, thus they wouldn't just make this up.

I see no reason to doubt Hu Tao here and don't plan on focusing on anyone other than whoever they bring up today.

Really depends on their claim, I’m also not a fan of the claim being done so early in the day

lol then why did you start by posting 'alright let's goooooo'

Your first reaction to many things in this game has been to call them terrible.

[Grackaroni]

I don't think Oats is close to being executed, but I'll take the heat from OutofOrder anyway if this goes wrong. I really want to see an execution at this point, and I'm pretty sure Oats is mafia.

VOTE: Oatsmaster

[Grackaroni]

I don't want to wait around for another 3 days for a flip.

[Luca Blight]

E-2 I think

[Oatsmaster]

Alright grack is mafia lol

[Oatsmaster]

Terrible terrible reasoning

[Oatsmaster]

There's a few things leading me this way. I still think Oats' reaction to Hu-Tao's claim was the most likely to be fake.

That's great, but like, why would we yeet anyone other than whoever Hu Tao mentions today?

Obviously we need to know if they are lying, and if they are, we yeet Hu Tao next, which I'm sure Hu Tao is well aware of, thus they wouldn't just make this up.

I see no reason to doubt Hu Tao here and don't plan on focusing on anyone other than whoever they bring up today.

Really depends on their claim, I’m also not a fan of the claim being done so early in the day

lol then why did you start by posting 'alright let's goooooo'

Your first reaction to many things in this game has been to call them terrible.

I would like to go back here, can you expand on what you mean by fake and how it’s scummy for me to call things terrible?

[Luca Blight]

I'm at the point where I need to see oats' flip to continue from here. If I'm wrong then it means my entire view of the game is wrong. if I'm right then I'm probably on the right track, at least in terms of Vivax also being scum.

[Grackaroni]

To be honest I think you're scared for the first time.

I was pushing you the previous night but I think you just assumed that Gob would go instead.

[Hu Tao]

Alright grack is mafia lol

Why?

[Oatsmaster]

I think one thing that bothers me about oatsmaster's play is that he's spent a lot of time piggybacking off other people's pushes

I feel like he's spent a lot of time kinda adding on or backing up cases made by you and DP, but I can't remember a single push oatsmaster has made that's been entirely his own or at least truly started by himself, and that kinda sends off alarm bells because it doesn't seem like any of you TL guys have issues pushing things independently

so I'm worried he's scum hiding behind the forces of you / DP doin the dirty work for him

I'd feel a lot better about him if you could point to some independent pushes he's made probably

I think this is a quality read.

When Oats responded to this post he said that Dann forgot about Roden, but the Roden exchange started with Oats just calling people bad for relying on rvs and then Roden started pushing Oats as a scum read.

(Coincidentally I've also had success catching scum for entering in a game by repeatedly shitting on people's reasoning behind their reads without contributing any reads of their own.)

You’ve read my filter yes? I assume you see me start pushing roden about post 200-300

[Luca Blight]

Alright grack is mafia lol

Yeah, Dann doesn't have an ego. Just a good player. imo

I don't disagree with the above, but at this point I'm going to put Hu Tao as a scumread. She doesn't seem to add anything relevant to the discussions, and only comments on thigs that have no real bearing on the game.

She has also voted me but not, as far as I can see, presented any thought-process behind this read.

This OMGUS?

[Hu Tao]

I'm at the point where I need to see oats' flip to continue from here. If I'm wrong then it means my entire view of the game is wrong. if I'm right then I'm probably on the right track, at least in terms of Vivax also being scum.

I agree that it clears up vivax for me too

[Hu Tao]

Alright grack is mafia lol

Yeah, Dann doesn't have an ego. Just a good player. imo

I don't disagree with the above, but at this point I'm going to put Hu Tao as a scumread. She doesn't seem to add anything relevant to the discussions, and only comments on thigs that have no real bearing on the game.

She has also voted me but not, as far as I can see, presented any thought-process behind this read.

This OMGUS?

[Oatsmaster]

Alright grack is mafia lol

Why?

He’s literally been doing exactly what he’s been accusing me of, not pushing anything himself and just attaching himself to ongoing things. So if that makes me mafia, how could it not make him mafia? Ergo he’s full of shit

[Oatsmaster]

Alright grack is mafia lol

Yeah, Dann doesn't have an ego. Just a good player. imo

I don't disagree with the above, but at this point I'm going to put Hu Tao as a scumread. She doesn't seem to add anything relevant to the discussions, and only comments on thigs that have no real bearing on the game.

She has also voted me but not, as far as I can see, presented any thought-process behind this read.

This OMGUS?

Close but no cigar

[Oatsmaster]

I think one thing that bothers me about oatsmaster's play is that he's spent a lot of time piggybacking off other people's pushes

I feel like he's spent a lot of time kinda adding on or backing up cases made by you and DP, but I can't remember a single push oatsmaster has made that's been entirely his own or at least truly started by himself, and that kinda sends off alarm bells because it doesn't seem like any of you TL guys have issues pushing things independently

so I'm worried he's scum hiding behind the forces of you / DP doin the dirty work for him

I'd feel a lot better about him if you could point to some independent pushes he's made probably

I think this is a quality read.

When Oats responded to this post he said that Dann forgot about Roden, but the Roden exchange started with Oats just calling people bad for relying on rvs and then Roden started pushing Oats as a scum read.

(Coincidentally I've also had success catching scum for entering in a game by repeatedly shitting on people's reasoning behind their reads without contributing any reads of their own.)

Like how is this not exactly what he’s doing?

[Luca Blight]

Oats, what are your reads in general?

[Oatsmaster]

I'm good with a hammer at any point. Nothing else I want to talk about today.

There is simply no way someone says this and after the flip says "all the people who voted for Dunn late have a high chance of being mafia".

I think some people view late joiners to wagons as scummier than the people that start wagons.

She's taking note of the people that joined onto wagons that were started by other people multiple times.

That’s not the issue, the issue is that she would’ve been in that group of people that joined the Dunn wagon if circumstances permitted her. So why is she using the sole fact of joining the Dunn wagon as a reason to call someone mafia?

[Luca Blight]

I'm good with a hammer at any point. Nothing else I want to talk about today.

There is simply no way someone says this and after the flip says "all the people who voted for Dunn late have a high chance of being mafia".

I think some people view late joiners to wagons as scummier than the people that start wagons.

She's taking note of the people that joined onto wagons that were started by other people multiple times.

That’s not the issue, the issue is that she would’ve been in that group of people that joined the Dunn wagon if circumstances permitted her.

So why is she using the

sole fact

of joining the Dunn wagon as a reason to call someone mafia?

She's not. She spoke on specific reasons as to why she didn't like some of the votes.

[Grackaroni]

I really think it's Oats.

I was pretty open that I was suspecting him yesterday and basically taunting him with some of my posts and these were his reactions:

Ngl, I would be surprised if grack got more mafia than town with that tell

You know Oats I'm going to be laughing my ass off if my random hunch that Hu Tao red-checked you caused you to fumble your response to her question making Dann push you.

Sorry to disappoint :p

Now I make it clear that I'm favoring yeeting him over Gob and that he may actually be in danger today and he reacts very strongly.

[Oatsmaster]

The suspense is killing me lol

My bet from her posts is Oats, but that'd make me bad for copying OutofOrder/DP's read on him.

Why would you be be bad?

I put you as a top town read since you were active and reading through people's games to make meta reads + OutofOrder/DP both reading you as lock town.

We'll see what comes out though I'm just speculating baselessly.

That's great, but like, why would we yeet anyone other than whoever Hu Tao mentions today?

Obviously we need to know if they are lying, and if they are, we yeet Hu Tao next, which I'm sure Hu Tao is well aware of, thus they wouldn't just make this up.

I see no reason to doubt Hu Tao here and don't plan on focusing on anyone other than whoever they bring up today.

Really depends on their claim, I’m also not a fan of the claim being done so early in the day

lol then why did you start by posting 'alright let's goooooo'

Your first reaction to many things in this game has been to call them terrible.

very very odd flip between 20 minutes of actual time

[Oatsmaster]

I'm good with a hammer at any point. Nothing else I want to talk about today.

There is simply no way someone says this and after the flip says "all the people who voted for Dunn late have a high chance of being mafia".

I think some people view late joiners to wagons as scummier than the people that start wagons.

She's taking note of the people that joined onto wagons that were started by other people multiple times.

That’s not the issue, the issue is that she would’ve been in that group of people that joined the Dunn wagon if circumstances permitted her.

So why is she using the

sole fact

of joining the Dunn wagon as a reason to call someone mafia?

She's not. She spoke on specific reasons as to why she didn't like some of the votes.

Is there a reason you feel obligated to answer on behalf of someone else?

[Luca Blight]

Just another point on Vivax - I'm sure he scumread oats for most of D1 (when there was no possibility of an oats lim) and vice-versa I believe, and yet today, when oats is legitimately in danger, Vivax not only doesn't scumread him but tried to make out that oats couldn't be scum unless partnered specifically with Darth Punk, by using some wagon analysis that made no sense whatsoever.

[Luca Blight]

I'm good with a hammer at any point. Nothing else I want to talk about today.

There is simply no way someone says this and after the flip says "all the people who voted for Dunn late have a high chance of being mafia".

I think some people view late joiners to wagons as scummier than the people that start wagons.

She's taking note of the people that joined onto wagons that were started by other people multiple times.

That’s not the issue, the issue is that she would’ve been in that group of people that joined the Dunn wagon if circumstances permitted her.

So why is she using the

sole fact

of joining the Dunn wagon as a reason to call someone mafia?

She's not. She spoke on specific reasons as to why she didn't like some of the votes.

Is there a reason you feel obligated to answer on behalf of someone else?

You mean like how you repeatedly intervened in my argument with Darth by arguing on his behalf and undermining every point I made?