Exploring this a bit -- why would mafia say this more often than town who feel they are being unfairly targeted? Wouldn't it be the unfairly targeted part, more than the alignment part?In post 221, Aristeia wrote: "why is this person's vote not as bad as mine" feels like something mafia say when they feel like they are being unfairly targeted when they think their play is the same as everyone else.
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Maybe you're right is the correct word filler then? It looked like you wanted to say something but didn't know what to say but wanted to post, and just made 3 posts about nothing. Where could that theoretical conversation with hu tao possibly go, nowhere.In post 211, Psyche wrote:
none of those posts were fluffIn post 182, Political Clout wrote:In post 158, Psyche wrote: from the feeling so threatened by a page 3 wagon that you burn a PR to the selfvote+"Eliminate me and vote her out tomorrow!" the whole playerlist seems awfully melodramatic this gameIn post 161, Psyche wrote:
that's really dumb! why would anyone agree to that? has an entire town ever agreed to that?In post 159, Hu Tao wrote: It is worth the sacrifice to get 1 scum out the game. But only if it is agreed that she is the elimination tomorrow
This is all just fluff.In post 162, Psyche wrote: 9 times out of 10 the person who is mislimmed D1 is completely forgotten and ignored past the first page of D2. i feel like you must have been in enough games by now to know thisYa basic!-
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i knew what i wanted to say and said exactly all those things. that conversation w hu tao was probing the rationale and/or sincerity behind the self vote.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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can someone who is not clout tell me if the purpose behind those posts was not as obvious as it seems to me?You can't step in the same river twice.-
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What was your conclusionIn post 227, Psyche wrote: i knew what i wanted to say and said exactly all those things. that conversation w hu tao was probing the rationale and/or sincerity behind the self vote.Ya basic!-
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what was this in response to?In post 223, Psyche wrote: 43/45 are me justifying my RN vote
the tone of his post read as disingenuous and badly pretending to be substantial / the adult in the roomWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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the person who asked me to justify my RN sry im mobile rnYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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In post 225, davesaz wrote:
Exploring this a bit -- why would mafia say this more often than town who feel they are being unfairly targeted? Wouldn't it be the unfairly targeted part, more than the alignment part?In post 221, Aristeia wrote: "why is this person's vote not as bad as mine" feels like something mafia say when they feel like they are being unfairly targeted when they think their play is the same as everyone else.
I'm not entirely sure what the psych reason is, I just think mafia are more likely to appeal towards "fairness" and think it's not right they're being singled out for behavior they think everyone is doing.
Town tend to care less about being eliminated and more often blame others for their deaths. Her attitude also doesn't really fit with her self voting and declaring Naerys to be a confident scumread because of one single factor.You are always gonna be my love-
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FWIW, I get accused all the time of making comments without trying to advance the game.In post 228, Psyche wrote: can someone who is not clout tell me if the purpose behind those posts was not as obvious as it seems to me?
Making the comment is making my position known on a topic, which in my mind does advance the game if it helps others to read me.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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This post is a bangerIn post 221, Aristeia wrote: the way you're framing the question feels like something mafia would say tho.
"why is this person's vote not as bad as mine" feels like something mafia say when they feel like they are being unfairly targeted when they think their play is the same as everyone else.
truth be told I voted you because you had the most votes and you had a sus looking hop on to the wagon, I didn't really bother trying to figure out which vote on the wagon was the most sus or whatever, I just saw two votes on you, checked your iso and decided it was a decent place to start.-
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i still can't understand how someone w hu tao's professed beliefs/personality exists in this world. it's a very incoherent sequence set in between an otherwise clear-thinking iso. when the read is not ambivalent, i'll announce it like a normal person.In post 229, Political Clout wrote:
What was your conclusionIn post 227, Psyche wrote: i knew what i wanted to say and said exactly all those things. that conversation w hu tao was probing the rationale and/or sincerity behind the self vote.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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I actually really disagree.In post 234, Klick wrote:
This post is a bangerIn post 221, Aristeia wrote: the way you're framing the question feels like something mafia would say tho.
"why is this person's vote not as bad as mine" feels like something mafia say when they feel like they are being unfairly targeted when they think their play is the same as everyone else.
truth be told I voted you because you had the most votes and you had a sus looking hop on to the wagon, I didn't really bother trying to figure out which vote on the wagon was the most sus or whatever, I just saw two votes on you, checked your iso and decided it was a decent place to start.
"why is this person's vote not as bad as mine" is a useful sorting question.
it's only scummy if you can only interpret the post as someone complaining about being suspectedYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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221 did make me townlead aristeia though
and im not calling a question like "why is this person's vote not as bad as mine" town-indicative
i'm just saying 221's not a great argument that it's scummyYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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That would be compelling except I don't really have any opinion on the quality of Hu Tao's individually or compared to the other person's because that doesn't really have anything to do with my read on Hu Tao
It feels like Hu Tao really wants to talk about specific reasons she doesn't think she looks scummy
And therefore, yes, I think she's complaining about being suspected by doing so-
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Hu Tao's vote* individually-
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how is it a useful sorting question?
if anything I feel like its setting up framing for a debate on which of these votes were the "scummiest"
which is like ? to me. like if there's multiple scummy looking votes you have to start somewhere and sort them one by one no?You are always gonna be my love-
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I lean toward doing what I did, which is to put some thought into all of them at the same time. Focusing on one of an otherwise mostly equal set puts town at risk of snowballing prematurely.In post 241, Aristeia wrote: how is it a useful sorting question?
if anything I feel like its setting up framing for a debate on which of these votes were the "scummiest"
which is like ? to me. like if there's multiple scummy looking votes you have to start somewhere and sort them one by one no?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Well true, everybody plays differently. This way just explanation, why the votes on RN plus Hu Tao´s jumping in without care dont look good to meIn post 224, Psyche wrote: "me as townie would never put my RVS vote on person that already has 2 votes or more"
im trying to figure out why this disclosure about how you play mafia haa anything to do with how you interpret other players' play-
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I think Psyche is focusing on the things he's focusing on out of interest that springs from him looking for scumIn post 172, Dannflor wrote: klick can you talk about your psyche town read
I feel like either Psyche is town or he's deliberately faking his entire approach to this game down to how he's feeling about trivial things from the start-
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I think Naerys' approach to Hu Tao feels like starting from a conclusion and finding evidence, vs the opposite.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Let me get on my laptop I've been playing from my phone this whole game.Ya basic!-
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a rough rule of thumb is that questions about people's reads posed in a relatively odd way make for good sorting questionsIn post 241, Aristeia wrote: how is it a useful sorting question?
if anything I feel like its setting up framing for a debate on which of these votes were the "scummiest"
which is like ? to me. like if there's multiple scummy looking votes you have to start somewhere and sort them one by one no?You can't step in the same river twice.-
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Cool, I'm not the only oneIn post 246, Political Clout wrote: Let me get on my laptop I've been playing from my phone this whole game.-
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So you're saying that me and him did the same thing as partners. And you're saying that if I flip town you wouldn't? Seems like a weird takeIn post 217, Aristeia wrote:
I don't really know much about PC, I guess he could also be mafia. If you flip mafia he'd probably be the first place I look.In post 200, Hu Tao wrote: Also Naerys tell me why you think my vote is worse than PCs. When we say similar things.
I'd want Klick and Ari's reasoning too.
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